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Reply #15September 16, 2009, 10:56:39 pm

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Re: Cat 4 cyl
« Reply #15 on: September 16, 2009, 10:56:39 pm »
Well thats kinda what i thought about the numbers. I knew the new ones were liters.

I saw on the Cat site that the 3054 were used on generators and irigation pumps.

If i can find one or some might look in to it. I'm trying to find info on the perkins to no avail.

Its in a Massey Furgeson 310 combine. Found rebuild kits and such but no details.

Thanks for all your help so far guys.
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Reply #16September 29, 2009, 09:08:31 pm

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Re: Cat 4 cyl
« Reply #16 on: September 29, 2009, 09:08:31 pm »
Perkins engines are hard to find info on. I think i have a perkins AD4.203 in the massey 310 combine. Looked at it this wknd and after close in spection it looks like a good size for an s10. More to come.
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Reply #17October 04, 2009, 03:39:10 pm

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Re: Cat 4 cyl
« Reply #17 on: October 04, 2009, 03:39:10 pm »
If you don't end up using that combine engine, I think the 3054 will be the easiest Cat 4 cyl to find.  It still is a pretty large engine for an S-10 but I'm sure you could make it fit  :).  Weight would be the big downside I imagine.  Based on my research they have been widely used by Cat, ie 416, 428, & 436 backhoes, 312, 315 and 317 excavators, 914 and IT14 loaders, and all sorts of industrial, power generation, and marine applications.  It's hard to find exact specs such as bore and stroke but the 3054C for example ranges from 70-130 hp @ 1800-2400 RPM. 

I imagine you'd find a 3054 at a used equipment dealer.  You could try contacting your local Cat dealer;  they would probably know of a source for you. 

I'm actually working on a 3054C turbo at work right now.  They are a very simple engine, which I like. 
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Reply #18October 06, 2009, 09:35:53 pm

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Re: Cat 4 cyl
« Reply #18 on: October 06, 2009, 09:35:53 pm »
What are the physical deminsions of the 3054. What style fuel system does it have? I imagine it has a SAE bellhousing.
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Reply #19October 07, 2009, 12:34:02 pm

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Re: Cat 4 cyl
« Reply #19 on: October 07, 2009, 12:34:02 pm »
We have a 3054 sitting in our yard right now.  I'll take some measurements when I get time.  All the 3054Cs I've seen have either a mechanical Bosch VE or Delphi distributor pump.  How would a person identify an SAE bellhousing?

Also FYI the displacement of a 3054 is 4.4L.
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Reply #20October 07, 2009, 04:22:12 pm

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« Reply #20 on: October 07, 2009, 04:22:12 pm »
Pushrod valves, counterflow iron heads I presume?

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Reply #21October 07, 2009, 10:21:08 pm

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Re: Cat 4 cyl
« Reply #21 on: October 07, 2009, 10:21:08 pm »
I imagine it has a SAE bellhousing.

probably, but at the mill yard some of the loaders with cat engines don't use a SAE bellhousing. One is a double gear stepper that runs a pump, the other drives a pony shaft of a divorced transmission.
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Reply #22October 09, 2009, 12:06:56 am

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« Reply #22 on: October 09, 2009, 12:06:56 am »
http://www.garbee.net/~cabell/sae.htm

The 3054 sounds around what i'm looking for. Maybe a little big but "I'd rather have it and not need it than need it and not have it."
84 4dr Rabbit 1.6 N/A sold to friend
86 Jetta TD getting raced out AHU 02A
98 Jetta TDI Malone tune stg 3
91 S10 305 TPI T56
86 S10 2WD Prerunner project.


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Reply #23October 14, 2009, 08:50:21 pm

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Re: Cat 4 cyl
« Reply #23 on: October 14, 2009, 08:50:21 pm »
Dimensions of a 3054C (approx.): 32" L X 24" W (with turbo) X 32" H.  Yes it is a pretty tall engine, I think that would be one of the bigger hurdles for install in an S-10.  Could possibly modify the oil pan.

The flywheel housing is SAE no. 3, with M10X1.5 (I think) bolt holes. 

Yes, the valves on a 3054 are push rod actuated, and the head is cast iron.  The cylinder head flow is what I would call crossflow, with the intake on the left side and the exhaust manifold on the right side.  The intake manifold is actually part of the head casting. 

Of course there are smaller Cat branded engines out there, I just think the 3054 would be one of the easier 4 cyl models to find.  You could also consider installing a 3054 into a bigger truck ie a 1500.

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