Cat 4 cyl

[foxracer1]

I'm looking for a cat 4 cyl for my s-10. i know they have 3024s and such just need 2.0l to 4.0l engine size. Know of any good excavator or construction equipment junkyards or engine surplus places? Burden surplus use to have 3024s but they were brand new and i can't find them on their site so i think they sold em off.

[foxracer1]

I've found some info but its tough finding detailed specs and even tougher finding used engines for decent price.

4cyl Cats
model#_____hp___max gov spd__CID   
3024C______?_____?__________?
3034T____80hp__2600_________?
3054T___107hp__2400_________?
3114T___105-160_2400-2800___?
3114TA__135-194_2400-2800___?
3304B-TA_125-165_2000-2200__too big i'm sure

[Rabbit on Roids]

or, you could just find yourself a 3.0 litre V6 duramax engine. 180 hp and right around 270 ft lbs if i remember right.

[Turbinepowered]

or, you could just find yourself a 3.0 litre V6 duramax engine. 180 hp and right around 270 ft lbs if i remember right.

Where would I go about finding one of those? That sounds easier to fit than a 6v53 twin turbo.

[foxracer1]

BAH i'm a die hard inline man. Thats a tried and true diesel layout. Plus V engines cram up s-10 engine bays.

[Heli-mech]

 As a previous S10 owner, i remember reading on one of the S10 forums about a diesel swap using the Isuzu 4BD1T found in the Hino-NPR box truck. These engines are  tanks throw a big intercooler and some more fuel and easily push 150-ish on HP and 300-ish on torque.

 Here's a link to an adapter kit that fits a 4BD1T to a 700r4/4l60....so if your trucks a 4.3l you already got the right tranny
 
 http://www.isuzudieselswapper.com/index.html

 

 

[foxracer1]

How hard are the 4BD1T to find. Those are a 3.9L aren't they.

[Heli-mech]

 The 3.9L NPR 4BD1T engine started in 1985 and ended in 1991. The 4BD2TC started in 1992 and ended in 1998. The 4BD1T has 128hp and the 4BD2TC used an intercooler and has 135hp.

 They aren't very hard to find, but usually have a million miles on them. I found a few locally but had to do some digging. One was a 1997 low miles for around $2500......the higher mile one was $1200. They are not super cheap, but are "stone axe" reliable.
 

[lord_verminaard]

Wonder how much they weigh.  Gotta be less than the friggin Cummins 4bt.  Those things are ginormus.

Brendan

[Rabbit on Roids]

a 4BT weighs in at more than a big block chevy. 8 hundred and some odd pounds.

[dieselweasel]

I've found some info but its tough finding detailed specs and even tougher finding used engines for decent price.

4cyl Cats
model#_____hp___max gov spd__CID   
3024C______?_____?__________?
3034T____80hp__2600_________?
3054T___107hp__2400_________?
3114T___105-160_2400-2800___?
3114TA__135-194_2400-2800___?
3304B-TA_125-165_2000-2200__too big i'm sure

Cool project...I always thought it would be neat to swap a Cat into a p/u truck.  I work for a Cat dealer and can get you some of this info.  You're right, the 3304 would be way too big as would be the 3114.  I'm not a big fan of the 311 engines anyway.  The 3054 might fit...it's actually a Perkins engine (Cat owns Perkins).  I don't have any experience with the 3034 or 3024 but I'm sure they're close to the size you need.  I'll look up this stuff when I get a chance. 

[foxracer1]

Yeah we have a 3304 on a mixer paver at work and the data plate has the bore and stroke specs. I think it has a 6in stroke and a bore not far from that. Think it worked out to be 425 ci or so. Not a small engine cyl or not.

3114 engines are like 3116s aren't they? I never liked the 3116 engines just from what i've seen of em. Yeah see if you could find what the  3054 3034 and 3024s came in. I'd like to find a source for old industrial equipment and construction equip.

The last digit is the number of cyls correct? What do the other numbers stand for? I know they have familys but is there any relation to engine size?

I have an old massey 310 combine with a perkins in it. I should find out what model it is. Maybe i could use it and just paint it cat yellow and say its a cat. Ha. Has a dumb Lucas CAV pump though. Its maxed out and there is deff not enough fuel for boost.

[Rabbit on Roids]

cat makes perkins, so you wouldnt be that far off.

[dieselweasel]

3114 engines are like 3116s aren't they? I never liked the 3116 engines just from what i've seen of em. Yeah see if you could find what the  3054 3034 and 3024s came in. I'd like to find a source for old industrial equipment and construction equip.

The last digit is the number of cyls correct? What do the other numbers stand for? I know they have familys but is there any relation to engine size?

Yes the 3114 is just a 3116 with two less cylinders AFAIK.  Those engines are mechanically unit injected and the injector sleeves and injector control linkage can be finicky.  You also need a number of special tools to R&I injector sleeves and set the top end.  Plus you need training on how to do it...not something that's easily self taught.  

Yes in Cat world the last digit or sometimes the last two digits of the model number denotes the number of cylinders.  A 3126 is a 6 cylinder whereas a 3516 is a 16 cylinder for example.  The 3 at the beginning simply means that model number is an engine.  The second and sometimes third digits indicate relative engine size...I believe that if the second number is a 1 then the second and third digits indicate litres of displacement per cylinder...for example a 3116 is a 6.6L engine, the 3126 is a 7.2L engine, a 3176 is a 10.2L engine, and so on.  I think that only applies for the engines starting with "31" though.  As the second digit goes higher the engine is bigger and they range from 3000 to 3600.

All new Cat engine models start with a "C" and the next one or two numbers denote approximate displacement, ie C7, C9, C13, C15, C27.  

Anyway, I will look up some more info for you when I get some spare time.  I know for a fact that the 3054 engine is used in a wide variety of equipment from generators to wheel loaders.  

[macka]

We use the 3054 on our bigger Onan gen sets no turbo but they hardly work even at full load.