weight of complete 1.6 and 1.9 TD engines

[burn_your_money]

The 1.6 TD bottom end is about 150 pounds. That's oil pan, crank, rods and pistons, plus the block of course. I was pretty mad about that too because it was 5 pounds over the maximum that they would ship.

[theman53]

Just heaving the head with the turbo attached nearly killed me! What is it made of, depleted uranium?

My first quote that I ripped off the other site was from Jack...go to his engine rebuild page and you will see the exact info I posted for the 1.6.

[Syncroincity]

Read my lips: A. A. Z. weighs 400 lbs, not a 1.6, we're not arguing about the same motors. This motor was wet, no tranny, but with every hose, motor mount, wire harness, bolt & nut as it came out of the car, and I weighed it twice, once on a fish scale at home, and then again on a certified scale at Forward Air, shipped weight in a wooden box was 432 lbs... even allowing a 50 lb box, it's still pretty close...

[tSoG-84bit]

The 1.6 TD bottom end is about 150 pounds. That's oil pan, crank, rods and pistons, plus the block of course. I was pretty mad about that too because it was 5 pounds over the maximum that they would ship.

man that box seemed heavier than that, but even with the tote, and other stuff, I think it only weighed ~170 +- 10%

[macka]

Read my lips: A. A. Z. weighs 400 lbs, not a 1.6, we're not arguing about the same motors. This motor was wet, no tranny, but with every hose, motor mount, wire harness, bolt & nut as it came out of the car, and I weighed it twice, once on a fish scale at home, and then again on a certified scale at Forward Air, shipped weight in a wooden box was 432 lbs... even allowing a 50 lb box, it's still pretty close...

OK so you have 10 pounds of oil, some coolant approx 2 pounds say, another 15 in brackets, 10 in rubber, probably 10 in wiring harness, 15 for the fuel pump, another 5 in misc attachments and doodads, and add the 50 for the box, so all said and done you have to 127 off of that to ballpark the bare longblock weight. So 432-127= 305 give or take.

[Turbinepowered]

I have a really hard time believing one of those little IPs weighs 15 pounds. I'll have to weigh one of my spares when I get home.

[macka]

we're ballparking here, its the fluids that throw us off.

OK this was posted by Storx at the TDI forum


various diesel engines:

1600cc(Gas)-159.2 Pds
1835cc(Gas)-160.3 Pds
1835cc(Gas-Turbo)-181.1 Pds
2180cc(Gas)-164.5 Pds
2393cc(Gas)-188.0 Pds
2792cc(Gas)-197.3 Pds
2792cc(Gas-Supercharged)243.8 Pds
1588cc(Diesel)-277.3 Pds
1588cc(Diesel-Turbo)-283.7 Pds
1896cc(Diesel)-282.9 Pds
1896cc(Diesel-Turbo)-297.0 Pds

I am guessing that these are dry weights longblocks only no extras in or on them.

[theman53]

I feel good in my old age *31* . I can roll the 1.6 block anyway I want. I carried my engine with all the stuff in it still bolted to my engine stand out of my basement. If that last post is true I must not be as big of a whimp as I thought I was becomming  . Right now everything except the oil pan intake and exhaust is on it and I consider it light...for an engine of course.
BTW in my second post I noted we were taking about the 1.9L. I just couldn't imagine it weighing that much. Jack's shipping weights are way off on the 1.6 too.

[mr.woods]

Read my lips: A. A. Z. weighs 400 lbs, not a 1.6, we're not arguing about the same motors. This motor was wet, no tranny, but with every hose, motor mount, wire harness, bolt & nut as it came out of the car, and I weighed it twice, once on a fish scale at home, and then again on a certified scale at Forward Air, shipped weight in a wooden box was 432 lbs... even allowing a 50 lb box, it's still pretty close...

I picked my 1.9 AAZ off the tailgate of the truck, and my back said 350-400lb with fluids, hoses, a/c, PS pump, Alt.. No tranny, flywheel. (OH and I put it right back on the tailgate  ) Now to solve this I'll put the motor on the race car scales wet, in the next couple of weeks. I want to know what it weighs since I want to compare My old project: cumming 6bt 1000lb, SM465 175lb, np203/205 250lb, to my new project: 1.9 AAZ, toyota 5 speed, dual toyata transfercases.

[Rabbit on Roids]

ok, here is something to compare to. a turbo 350 automatic and NP 205 transfer weighs in at a little over 400 lbs. they are freakin heavy. i cant pick one of those up without help, and last time it took 2 people on the TC end. theres no way an aaz or mf or cr or ck or tdi or anything weighs as much as one of those. asnd lets go with apples to apples here. dont weigh the AC pump, or power steering pumps or anything like that. basically only the things it needs on it to run. i say 300 pounds is the most one of these engines is.

oh yea, there is no way an injector pump weighs in at 15 lbs. maybe with all the bracketry and the sprocket, but not just the pump.

[jack's lack]

I am the receiver of the 432lb box in question. I should mention it also had a clutch flywheel and pressure plate, downpipe sawed off at the flex section, alternator power steering pump. I didn't weigh it myself, but I moved it and it kicked my skinny butt. I could easily believe it weighed every bit of those 400+lbs

[mr.woods]

ok, here is something to compare to. a turbo 350 automatic and NP 205 transfer weighs in at a little over 400 lbs. they are freakin heavy. i cant pick one of those up without help, and last time it took 2 people on the TC end. theres no way an aaz or mf or cr or ck or tdi or anything weighs as much as one of those. asnd lets go with apples to apples here. dont weigh the AC pump, or power steering pumps or anything like that. basically only the things it needs on it to run. i say 300 pounds is the most one of these engines is.

oh yea, there is no way an injector pump weighs in at 15 lbs. maybe with all the bracketry and the sprocket, but not just the pump.

th350= 120lb
NP205= 135lb
adaptor= 5lb

Not trying to be a Ass, I'm just a huge chevy guy and Know these weights, also shipped them all before. This is all dry.

[Rabbit on Roids]

ok, well you are negating everything else now. if i can pack a VW, it must weigh less than a turbo 400 and transfer case. so if a trans/tc weighs about 250, that makes a VW alot lighter!

and i meant to compare a TH400 and NP20X, i cant remember what model, but the 205 is all cast iron isnt it? this one may have been a 203 or 208, i cant remember exactly what one. it was a part time model out of a late 70's ride.

[mr.woods]

I wasn't trying to be a ass, just a been a huge Chevy truck guy. Still have my Full top convertable '74 blazer, and just sold my '84 blazer rock crawler to built my IDI crawler.

205 was all cast gear driven (god of transfercases) 135lb
203 all-wheel drive cast with chain drive (front case used for doubler) 135-145lb
208/241 aluminum chain drive, would say about 75-100lb

I'll try to weigh my AAZ before I put the adaptor plate and Toyota flywheel on it. I was looking at a AAZ on ebay in CA. When I called they said the ship weight was about 400lb.

[arb]

I wasn't trying to be a ass, just a been a huge Chevy truck guy. Still have my Full top convertable '74 blazer, and just sold my '84 blazer rock crawler to built my IDI crawler.

205 was all cast gear driven (god of transfercases) 135lb
203 all-wheel drive cast with chain drive (front case used for doubler) 135-145lb
208/241 aluminum chain drive, would say about 75-100lb

I'll try to weigh my AAZ before I put the adaptor plate and Toyota flywheel on it. I was looking at a AAZ on ebay in CA. When I called they said the ship weight was about 400lb.

Does the Toyota flywheel have some machining done to it so it will bolt up?