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Reply #30July 14, 2009, 08:00:02 pm

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Re: 82 Audi 5000 Turbo Diesel.
« Reply #30 on: July 14, 2009, 08:00:02 pm »
I have a audi 5k bently and will sell it for $25 shipped if anyone wants it.


Reply #31July 15, 2009, 06:41:17 pm

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« Reply #31 on: July 15, 2009, 06:41:17 pm »
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Well, the 5000 does have a bit more room under the hood but at least with a 5-cylinder typ89, you have to do a lot of servicing from under the engine bay. Need to change an oil filter? Or tighten your belts? etc, you need to get under the car and take the bottom air dam off to gain access to anything...   Yes I know the 5000 is a bit different, but my point is these Audis are more involving to service / repair than VWs.

So you are saying that not to get Audi becouse you need to do some things from under the car? ::)  I´ve never liked transversed engines, longitudal are much easier to work ;D

Under the car means the car has to be on jack stands or a pillar lift, because there's not much ground clearance....
Those two things I mentioned were just examples.
I have owned many VW's and a couple of Audis and my real point is that the Audis indeed are more complex and the Audi-specific parts can be quite expensive. Then again, my Audis have always been quattros so they're bound to be more expensive to run beacuse of the special quattro parts. BUT: a real Audi will always be a quattro anyway  8)
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Reply #32July 16, 2009, 12:21:25 pm

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« Reply #32 on: July 16, 2009, 12:21:25 pm »
if i end up getting the damn thing, it wont have a slush box in it for long. i get too friendly with the smoke pedal and e-brake at the same time on FWD cars. it wont last long. and besides, how dope would a powerful AWD 5 speed diesel be?

Reply #33July 16, 2009, 12:31:38 pm

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« Reply #33 on: July 16, 2009, 12:31:38 pm »
if i end up getting the damn thing, it wont have a slush box in it for long. i get too friendly with the smoke pedal and e-brake at the same time on FWD cars. it wont last long. and besides, how dope would a powerful AWD 5 speed diesel be?

If the Audis were like VWs that were offered with AWD, the pans are going to be different. A FWD car won't have the AWD rear floor pan or suspension mounting points, so you're looking at pan grafting too.

Reply #34July 16, 2009, 12:37:16 pm

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« Reply #34 on: July 16, 2009, 12:37:16 pm »
WTF!?... its a 5000 tho? 5000's came with quattro.. and 5 cylinders. thats gonna be total complete BS.

Reply #35July 16, 2009, 01:11:49 pm

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« Reply #35 on: July 16, 2009, 01:11:49 pm »
WTF!?... its a 5000 tho? 5000's came with quattro.. and 5 cylinders. thats gonna be total complete BS.

Not all 5ks, and the 5k quattro rear suspension doesn't work very well without the quattro system, so it's likely that the FWD versions got a pan that could accept a more conventional rear suspension that would work better without a set of driveaxles.

Same with the VW Quantums. You could get an AWD wagon, whose floor pan is different from the FWD Quantum wagons. The B3 passats were similar, and Golf AWD variations had different floor pans from the FWD variants for the same reason: the AWD rear suspension wouldn't work without the extra AWD stuff, so they went with something more conventional.

Reply #36July 16, 2009, 02:38:16 pm

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« Reply #36 on: July 16, 2009, 02:38:16 pm »
you guys totally just burst my bubble. i wanted an awd diesel. now im gonna have to get another car to make that dream come true.

Reply #37July 16, 2009, 09:48:06 pm

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« Reply #37 on: July 16, 2009, 09:48:06 pm »
Type 44 quattros can be found really cheap. Hunt on craigslist and transplant that diesel like the link I posted earlier. It would be much easier that way, plus the interior is soooooo  much nicer! Don't give up, I want to see another quattro diesel!
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Reply #38July 17, 2009, 12:09:05 pm

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« Reply #38 on: July 17, 2009, 12:09:05 pm »
eh, that whole not being able to quattro it just took the wind out of my sails. besides, the car has a really nice interior and body and stuff. not really one i would want to cannibalize because its all original. wow... you guys pretty much talked me out of getting the car.

Reply #39July 17, 2009, 12:49:52 pm

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« Reply #39 on: July 17, 2009, 12:49:52 pm »
eh, that whole not being able to quattro it just took the wind out of my sails. besides, the car has a really nice interior and body and stuff. not really one i would want to cannibalize because its all original. wow... you guys pretty much talked me out of getting the car.

That wasn't my intention, I was just trying to save you the headache (migraine sized) when you went to get started and discovered nothing lined up.

I am all for mechanically inclined folks saving these rare old Audis and the occasional hyper-rare VW (my coupe comes to mind...)

Reply #40July 17, 2009, 01:38:26 pm

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« Reply #40 on: July 17, 2009, 01:38:26 pm »
it would still just be a FWD turbo diesel grandmas car, with a slush box. god i hate automatics!

Reply #41July 17, 2009, 01:48:42 pm

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« Reply #41 on: July 17, 2009, 01:48:42 pm »
it would still just be a FWD turbo diesel grandmas car, with a slush box. god i hate automatics!

Amen Brother !!  When I learned in high school mechanics that ALL automatics (then) shift smoothly by having two gear sets engaged at the same time while shifting - that is the first gear clutch pack does not disengage until the second clutch pack is engaged - now you know this means both clutch packs are slipping as 2 sets of gears (4 total) can't be engaged at the same time because the ratios are different...

So, no auto's thank you very much. Now, when an automaker slaps a $1000 "option" for the auto when they choose not to allow those in the US to buy the automatic. - Ford Fusion for instance - Not good…. They can get a manual in Europe but not  in the US...

Reply #42July 17, 2009, 01:51:18 pm

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« Reply #42 on: July 17, 2009, 01:51:18 pm »
thats another thing, europe gets manual everything, and diesel everything. it pisses me off. and all we get are the gay gas powered slush box cars. i love having a diesel that i can grab gears with.

Reply #43July 17, 2009, 02:28:29 pm

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« Reply #43 on: July 17, 2009, 02:28:29 pm »
You could always transplant a diesel engine into a Quattro body shell (and yes, the floor pans are indeed different...)
but in that case you'd also need a Quattro diesel transmission; the gasser trannies have too low gearing to work well with a diesel engine. I know, I have thought about it considering my Typ 89...
But these cars are complicated and I find the FWD VWs to be much nicer to work on (never mind the parts prices too).
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Reply #44July 17, 2009, 06:01:55 pm

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« Reply #44 on: July 17, 2009, 06:01:55 pm »
it would still just be a FWD turbo diesel grandmas car, with a slush box. god i hate automatics!

Any 5-cylinder Audi or VW transmission will bolt right to that diesel and pop right in place of the slushbox. Other than the stupid-low final drive ratio in it, I'd offer give you the NA diesel 5-speed I have for the cost of shipping.

Even FWD Audis are not grandma's car; they handle quite well, and with the right transmission that 2.0TD would have quite a bit of get-up and go.

I had a VW Syncro wagon that I was going to put my 5-cylinder diesel in; I just never got around to it before I sold the car. At some point I'll find a gasser five cylinder Audi 5k Avant to put it into... :D

 

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