Author Topic: Sloooow twincharge project (Read 16061 times)

RabbitJockey · « **Reply #15 on:** February 08, 2009, 07:23:54 pm »

also i am looking into stronger rods as i believe you are too, the closest one i can find is a g60 rod which is a 136mm length and 22mm wrist pin, our cars need a 24mm wrist pin, i wonder if theres enough meat on them to bore out an h-beam rod to 24mm. but who is crazy enough to spend that much on rods to hack them up. just throwing that out there

Smokey Eddy · « **Reply #16 on:** February 08, 2009, 08:37:58 pm »

Our rods are already cast and of high grade. You would need to be making serious power to need to upgrade them. I would consider ceramic coating long before i looked for better rods. You would need some fancy stuff to be an upgrade.

Or so i've read on here anyways....

jtanguay · « **Reply #17 on:** February 08, 2009, 09:11:34 pm »

unless your making crazy low RPM torque, you don't need stronger rods.

i'm curious if the 3 cyl TDI that has the same bore & stroke as the 1.6 motor has interchangeable rods? i'm sure they would be capable of withstanding low end torque... which also brings up the feasibility of the 1.6TDI :twisted:

truckinwagen · « **Reply #18 on:** February 09, 2009, 08:54:34 am »

well, the whole reason I am going twincharge instead of just a big turbo is low end torque, so we will see how long the stock rods last.

there is one company making high strength rods for the diesel but they cost $800, so I will be looking other places first, I am talking to a newer company making rods and they might offer diesel rods soonish, but I am not going to hold my breath.

foxracer1 · « **Reply #19 on:** February 09, 2009, 11:05:37 am »

Not sure on sizes but there are several aftermarket options for air cooled vw rods. Also check small block chevy rods there are several sizes avaiable and they are cheap due to the popularity of them. What are the specs of your rod? I'll look to see what i can find.

RabbitJockey · « **Reply #20 on:** February 09, 2009, 02:05:34 pm »

Quote from: "foxracer1"

Not sure on sizes but there are several aftermarket options for air cooled vw rods. Also check small block chevy rods there are several sizes avaiable and they are cheap due to the popularity of them. What are the specs of your rod? I'll look to see what i can find.

they're 136mm center to center, 24mm wrist pin, 50.6~mm big end, and they're 24.9mm wide

foxracer1 · « **Reply #21 on:** February 10, 2009, 07:17:57 am »

http://www.appletreeauto.com/detail.aspx?ID=15340

http://users.cs.fiu.edu/~jstric01/images/VW/vw_type_iv_air_cooled_2.htm

Looks close enough to make em work.

foxracer1 · « **Reply #22 on:** February 10, 2009, 07:39:06 am »

I'd look for I-beam rods instead cause they handle boost better than H-beams. H-beams are better for high RPM.

truckinwagen · « **Reply #23 on:** February 10, 2009, 08:22:42 am »

well, it looks like those rods have the right size pin, but the big end is too big, and neither site says what the length is, but that is a conversation that can continue as I have no short term rod plans

here are the pics of the valve stem seals I got for $3 a piece:

I really don't like them, they are a hard plastic and shaped more like a bushing than a seal, but we will see how well they work, because they are going in the head.

my buddy who's garage my car is in has talked about letting me into his shop on weeknights to work on the car, so I might have more progress than I though in hte next few weeks.

myke_w · « **Reply #24 on:** February 10, 2009, 09:44:20 am »

yikes, those are pretty crappy, no springs on the seals. material looks kinda low end too

truckinwagen · « **Reply #25 on:** February 10, 2009, 09:59:46 am »

yeah, I don't like them at all, they are hard plastic and more like a bushing than a seal, but its what I got, so we will see.

myke_w · « **Reply #26 on:** February 10, 2009, 10:52:40 am »

fyi - the reinz / crp ones look like this

truckinwagen · « **Reply #27 on:** February 10, 2009, 12:36:37 pm »

yeah, I have four of those, I thought I bought eight, but only four shipped and I cant wait to have anther four shipped to me, or afford to ship them overnight.

Smokey Eddy · « **Reply #28 on:** February 10, 2009, 12:43:14 pm »

the ones i bought from prothe look exactly like myke_w's picture there. except orange.

truckinwagen · « **Reply #29 on:** February 10, 2009, 01:02:58 pm »

I would much rather have the rubber ones, but the stupid NAPA ones will have to do for now.