Author Topic: whats the diff internaly between the 1.9n/a and 1.9td...?? (Read 3530 times)

Baixo · « **on:** January 08, 2009, 04:12:58 pm »

so here in the Acores...there are plenty n/a 1.9 d....harder to find the td.

i would like to build a 1.9for my gtd. the 1.6 is running well....but while its still running good i would like to build a 1.9 on the side.

so with the head and block....what the diff?

i guess its a question for the euro guys here....i would assume that internaly the n/a would still have to be a stout engine....

any advice would be great, and thanks in advance

Matt

jtanguay · « **Reply #1 on:** January 08, 2009, 04:31:26 pm »

the 1.9 n/a and 1.9TD longblocks are identical internally. i wonder if the 1.9 n/a has the oil return plugged off?

Baixo · « **Reply #2 on:** January 08, 2009, 06:00:33 pm »

well thats good news...cause there is lots of the 1.9 n/a s here...

jtanguay · « **Reply #3 on:** January 08, 2009, 06:15:15 pm »

Quote from: "Baixo"

well thats good news...cause there is lots of the 1.9 n/a s here...

so i'm guessing your 'here' is not north america then :lol:

the 1.9 engines are torquey little motors. slap a turbo on them, and they become monsters. :twisted:

i have the 1.6 turbo on my mTDI and for now its ok. at low rpm i don't even need boost for the torque. it just pulls along very happily

btw how much do the 1.9's go for where you live?

blkboostedtruck · « **Reply #4 on:** January 08, 2009, 08:37:08 pm »

on the 1.9 blocks it will be cast in the block (1.9D/TD)
universal block
Duane

MJF · « **Reply #5 on:** January 08, 2009, 11:39:45 pm »

NA engine has different pistons and rods. Rod is 6mm longer (150mm) and piston pin is 2mm smaller (24mm) than 1,9td. No worries though, will handle turbo fine.

the caveman · « **Reply #6 on:** January 09, 2009, 07:37:12 am »

Depends on where it came from. If it was from a car then they are the same. If you can find a later production industrial engine then use that. It will have piston oilers and the better TDI crank pulley.

MJF · « **Reply #7 on:** January 09, 2009, 08:47:11 am »

Quote from: "libbybapa"

All the 1.9s had oilers if I'm not mistaken.

Andrew

Yes, all the 1,9s have squirters, but NAs have different pistons and rods.

the caveman · « **Reply #8 on:** January 09, 2009, 09:39:38 am »

There you go, i stand partially corrected

ObscuredByClouds · « **Reply #9 on:** January 09, 2009, 10:17:14 am »

Quote from: "the caveman"

Depends on where it came from. If it was from a car then they are the same. If you can find a later production industrial engine then use that. It will have piston oilers and the better TDI crank pulley.

Cool insight man!

What kind of vehicles sported the industrial engines?

Baixo · « **Reply #10 on:** January 09, 2009, 02:05:37 pm »

Quote from: "jtanguay"

Quote from: "Baixo"
well thats good news...cause there is lots of the 1.9 n/a s here...

so i'm guessing your 'here' is not north america then :lol:

the 1.9 engines are torquey little motors. slap a turbo on them, and they become monsters. :twisted:

i have the 1.6 turbo on my mTDI and for now its ok. at low rpm i don't even need boost for the torque. it just pulls along very happily

btw how much do the 1.9's go for where you live?

i thought i put the location in on the profile....oh well, thats updated.

here in the Acores the islands are very mountainess and the roads flow with the land.....so although i enjoy the light revyness of the 1.6, i like having some displasement. my b5 tdi for example is gret here.

so with the mods i have planned for the 1.6, like 3inch turbo back, giles pump, water to air IC....i think the k24 and those mods will suit the 1.9 nicely.

im gonna still do some research here on a few different places to get the best value and quality.

the caveman · « **Reply #11 on:** January 09, 2009, 04:24:23 pm »

Quote from: "NoSurrenderAG"

Quote from: "the caveman"
Depends on where it came from. If it was from a car then they are the same. If you can find a later production industrial engine then use that. It will have piston oilers and the better TDI crank pulley.

Cool insight man!

What kind of vehicles sported the industrial engines?

I was lucky as i was looking for an AHU to put in my transporter, but when i called the person who was to get me one he offered one of the 2 industrials he had found. They were being used for emergency water pumps. VW produces them for generators and pumps and can be found once in a while on ebay, etc.Nice thing about them is because they have a small pump head, you know they were never run above 3000 rpms

jtanguay · « **Reply #12 on:** January 09, 2009, 06:29:30 pm »

so did vw put inferior parts in the N/A motor??? maybe different part number, but same part sort of like the 1.6N/A & TD dispute?

the caveman · « **Reply #13 on:** January 10, 2009, 08:03:09 am »

Quote from: "jtanguay"

so did vw put inferior parts in the N/A motor??? maybe different part number, but same part sort of like the 1.6N/A & TD dispute?

Ahh jeez don't say that! Now i'm gonna worry about my possible inferior pistons. At least i have 99% decided not to turbo it so i guess i'll be okay [except for the lying in bed thinking about it].