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Reply #15September 12, 2008, 02:33:53 pm

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« Reply #15 on: September 12, 2008, 02:33:53 pm »
no offense but your local import shop probably has no idea about IDI's. they do know how to collect money tho  :lol:

A friend of mine owns a very reputable speed shop, he specialises in turbo-ing gassers and modding dieseld ( tdi's and trucks ) ... but he could do virtually nothing for me and my IDI 'cause he know's nothing about them!

by the way, 1000$ won't get you far, my friend will be fabbing me up a 3" exhaust from turbo to tailpipe that will cost me $600 and this is a deal! ( he's only charging me time for his welder and cost on parts )
don't forget that as soon as you hit about 100-115HP your stock clutch will start slipping... another $500 at least.

Basicly IMO all your local import shop will do is take your $ and give you little in return.


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Reply #16September 12, 2008, 02:38:31 pm

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« Reply #16 on: September 12, 2008, 02:38:31 pm »
They Specialise in doing IDI and TDI swaps into gassers...They are recommend by most VW dealers around to go there...and it was 1000 for motor mods... but he didn;t mention to me what they would do...Diesels are an unknown territory for me...I can take a gasser and make it fast as hell...I'm new to diesels
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Reply #17September 12, 2008, 02:41:19 pm

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« Reply #17 on: September 12, 2008, 02:41:19 pm »
Most likely all they will do is turn up your fuel and turbo. all things you can do yourself for free, search out "how to make your 1.9 TD faster " I think it's in the General section.
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Reply #18September 12, 2008, 02:41:37 pm

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« Reply #18 on: September 12, 2008, 02:41:37 pm »
Quote from: "catlin_cava"
The local import shop told me for about 1000$ to could get my car to beat anything on a 1/4 mile...and my back seats are clipped in so i can remove them when i need too


$1000? what does that include???  getting Giles to re-do your pump will give you about 120hp if you request that much fuel...


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Reply #19September 12, 2008, 02:43:56 pm

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« Reply #19 on: September 12, 2008, 02:43:56 pm »
The Funny thing is they wouldn't tell me...I'm going to look at making the car faster on my own because i love Doing my own work \
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Reply #20September 12, 2008, 02:50:44 pm

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« Reply #20 on: September 12, 2008, 02:50:44 pm »
Quote from: "catlin_cava"
I was thinking of getting a VR6 6speed tranny for it...i kept my CL's 5 speed so i get quick take offs


the diesel has an overall taller ratio transmission... i would imagine 250km/h+ possible...   8)


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Reply #21September 12, 2008, 11:23:59 pm

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« Reply #21 on: September 12, 2008, 11:23:59 pm »
would that be a tranny out of a GL because I've got a 94 GL that my IDI came out of...or is there a way i could make my own tranny... :twisted:
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Reply #22September 13, 2008, 05:10:15 pm

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« Reply #22 on: September 13, 2008, 05:10:15 pm »
This ambition strikes me as slightly ludacris.
If you manage to "explode" that much power out 1.6 liters of displacement... using diesel... i don't know if it would last 1/4 mile
Im making like 25% of the power to beat those cars and i've put a significant amount of money (but mostly time) into mine.
Your shop giving you a $1000 quote to beat anything on the street is basically a slap in the face and their saying "yeah ... give us your money... we'll .... change your filters!!! and you'll be the fastest  car on the street! a thousand bucks please."
You can find threads of people making 200hp on here and the amount of work is rediculous. ceramic pistons, aaz heads ported of course, giles pump and injectors, intercooler, t3/t4 turbo hybrid, build trannies, suspension, all kinds of cooling, egt set ups, custom downpipes and exhaust, not to mentioin some kind of LPG injection (i know it doesnt work the greatest on IDI but it is still a power enhancement in my opinion)
Like Jim said, there is no replacement for displacement. You can come darn close but those bigger engines will keep climbing the speedo. I built a '73 nova with a 400 in it. no mods other than over bore. just a holley carb, edelbrock manifold and open headers, with a 3:7:3  and it did 12 seconds... it was stripped bare of course but engine wise all it was was a big empty space that had gas sprayed into it and it blew up big enough to go extremely fast and couldn't drive anywhere but in a straight line of course.

You can make yours more FUN to drive and a lot cooler ;) with that kind of money
and that's better than being a few tenths of a second seconds faster on the light i think. and you'll burn 1/20th the fuel!!! You'll appreciate how much less you burn once you get everything tuned up nicely.
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Reply #23September 14, 2008, 10:39:31 pm

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« Reply #23 on: September 14, 2008, 10:39:31 pm »
you might be right...after the time i've spend on this car...and smashing it in some race or loose it would kill me...i should fix er right up and mmake one nice "show diesel" to show all the ricers diesels are cooler 8)
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Reply #24September 15, 2008, 01:09:47 pm

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« Reply #24 on: September 15, 2008, 01:09:47 pm »
WOW this is a nice thread to follow :D
But remember it's not speed that kills but rather coming to a sudden stop :twisted:

Reply #25September 15, 2008, 01:19:10 pm

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« Reply #25 on: September 15, 2008, 01:19:10 pm »
Quote from: "zozie"
WOW this is a nice thread to follow :D
But remember it's not speed that kills but rather coming to a sudden stop :twisted:


or too much G's  :lol:


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Reply #26September 15, 2008, 02:06:14 pm

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« Reply #26 on: September 15, 2008, 02:06:14 pm »
lol I just want to be able to out run the stock gasser vanagons on the road about 75 mph should be able to do that.

Reply #27September 16, 2008, 09:55:04 am

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« Reply #27 on: September 16, 2008, 09:55:04 am »
You want to beat your friends?  Take $1500 and buy a motorcycle.  Then take another $1500 and buy all the safety kit.  Then spend another $500 on track days.

You'll be far ahead of the game.
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Reply #28September 17, 2008, 11:24:02 pm

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« Reply #28 on: September 17, 2008, 11:24:02 pm »
discovered my top speed...148kph...at 4600RPM...I need a different tranny, and we race on tracks...
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