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Reply #15June 18, 2008, 11:32:36 am

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« Reply #15 on: June 18, 2008, 11:32:36 am »
Call these guys.  They'll know exatly what you need for studs

http://www.raceware-fasteners.com/

I'm sure ARP could get there eventaully, but from what I here, If you don't have THEIR P/N, it could take a while.   And they have a bizar torqueing procedure that involves torqueing and loosening multiple times.   Man, mash that poor gasket flat.


"just cut out a piece to keep the oil from leaking out of the head and place it in?"

On a mechanical head, the extra oil hole in the gasket lines up with a coolant passage in the block.

Yup, just cut a circle from a oil cap gasket, stuff it in the hole, and flop on the head.  No waxes, polishes or glues.  Works good, lasts long time.

Extra difficulty points: drill out the steam holes in the head and block.  Use liberal quantities of some light oil while drilling. The block is hard and wants to fight the bit, and the head is gooey and loads the flutes with aluminum goo.  Light oil fixes both.  And cobalt is your Freund
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Reply #16June 18, 2008, 12:37:43 pm

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« Reply #16 on: June 18, 2008, 12:37:43 pm »
so im leaving just a little hole for a bit of oil to drain, got it.

ill get in contact with raceware, thanks.

-j

Reply #17June 18, 2008, 03:56:19 pm

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« Reply #17 on: June 18, 2008, 03:56:19 pm »
one more question, then my thread hijack is complete... where do i find this metal head gasket?

ive searched all of the normal places i order parts online and i cant find anything for the aaz (thats what this gasket is from, right?)

thanks again!

-j

Reply #18June 18, 2008, 04:10:44 pm

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Reply #19June 19, 2008, 10:22:24 am

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« Reply #19 on: June 19, 2008, 10:22:24 am »
I sell them too ;)

Reply #20June 22, 2008, 12:37:09 am

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« Reply #20 on: June 22, 2008, 12:37:09 am »
anyone think of using teflon plastic that is rated to 500 degrees or high temp copper exhaust gasket silicone for this?

and could anyone point to a different thread with metal head gasket on 1.6L info?

the precup being the wrong height and causing the head gasket to blow out makes me want to pay the 12 mpg penalty of a 5.9L cummins that does not have precups,

the metal gead gasket solves this

thank you for showing me those pictures

Reply #21June 23, 2008, 07:26:54 pm

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« Reply #21 on: June 23, 2008, 07:26:54 pm »
What is the part number for the oil pan gasket paste?  I might do a combo oil cap and paste.  I'll see how that goes.
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Reply #22June 23, 2008, 09:11:23 pm

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« Reply #22 on: June 23, 2008, 09:11:23 pm »
Quote from: "saurkraut"
Quote from: "mufflerbearing"
im about to order a hg, bolts, and a few other odds and ends before i install my freshly rebuilt turbo.

thanks!

-j


Bolts?!?!??? :shock:  Nooooooo! :(    Get studs! :D

Pry that wallet open, eat Mac & Cheese for two weeks, sell a kidney, just don't put those piece of Scheiße streach bolt back in your engine!

Nos-hit, I've been running 25+ PSI boost for over 3 years with the stock head gasket and Raceware studs.  Every stop light is a Drag race, every turn Daytona, and not so much as a wimper from the stock head gasket.

I don't care if you get Raceware or ARP, just don't put those gosh darn, piece of crap, good for nothing streach bolt back in your motor.

Not that I have an opinion on the matter....

Oh, By the way, the rubber oil cap gasket cut outs worked on my 1.5TD during its brief life.  On a 1.6 its even easier.   Audi80 was the first to do this with a mechanical 1.6TD and he has yet to have an issue.  Here is his engine with the rubber cut out from the oil fill cap gasket:







I still don't get it for some reason.

That hole I can see is a coolant passage no?
If it is then it still has an opening around the bolt. So cant the coolant leak up and around the head bolt/ stud?
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Reply #23June 24, 2008, 07:35:58 pm

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« Reply #23 on: June 24, 2008, 07:35:58 pm »
Well, the glue takes care of that. The headbolt also is sealed by its washer. Albeit, not perfectly, but I have had no fluid mixing.

The part number for the glue is D 176 404 A2

Reply #24June 26, 2008, 08:02:21 am

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« Reply #24 on: June 26, 2008, 08:02:21 am »
I put mine together last Friday with a metal HG & a piece of bicycle innertube smeared with Permatex high-temp copper gasketing goo.  No leaks so far!
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Reply #25August 25, 2008, 10:01:37 pm

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« Reply #25 on: August 25, 2008, 10:01:37 pm »
whats the word on these metal head gaskets???
still holding??
I want to run a MLS gasket..but I just dont know how I feel about this rubber half moon mod???
so whats up they still holding??
your should I do my ARP studs and stock fiber gasket??

Reply #26August 25, 2008, 10:22:21 pm

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« Reply #26 on: August 25, 2008, 10:22:21 pm »
still holding with no problems. its been another 4k since I started this thread.

Reply #27August 26, 2008, 05:32:37 am

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« Reply #27 on: August 26, 2008, 05:32:37 am »
Still holding here with 21psi boost.  No leaks, no mixing.  I only have about 3k on mine.
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Reply #28August 26, 2008, 08:28:27 am

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« Reply #28 on: August 26, 2008, 08:28:27 am »
Quote from: "fastvicar"
Still holding here with 21psi boost.  No leaks, no mixing.  I only have about 3k on mine.

did you use rubber on yours too??








any body try cutting a piece of the gasket lip off that hangs over the edge and cover the hole with that?? then you would have some material that is just like the rest of the gasket??

Reply #29August 26, 2008, 12:15:28 pm

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« Reply #29 on: August 26, 2008, 12:15:28 pm »
Yup, roughed up a bit of bicycle innertube and coated it with the high-temp gasketing material.
1981 Rabbit 1.6L TURBO!!  "The Whistle Pig"