5W30 Conventional in Ontario?

[casanis]

Would like to get my hands on some 5W30 Conventional Diesel rated oil for my upcoming break-in. The FAQ/How-To says 5W30 gasser rated is okay to use, but I would prefer the diesel rated stuff if I can find it.

FAQ in Question:

http://www.vwdiesel.net/forum/index.php?topic=33755.0

I've checked the local Can Tire, Napa, PartSource and Princess Auto...no luck   Any thoughts would be most appreciated. Should I just stick with gasser 5W30 if all else fails?

Cheers,
Adam.

[theman53]

Personally I think that guy doesn't know his head from a hole in the ground, so no I wouldn't use a non diesel rated oil in a diesel. use Rotella T 10w-30 NON synthetic or BRAD PENN 10w-30 diesel rated

[homerj1]

This is post about a JD tractor diesel engine rebuild - regarding break in oils. ( from Bob the Oil Guy)

http://www.bobistheoilguy.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=538495

[homerj1]

This is post about a JD tractor diesel engine rebuild - regarding break in oils. ( from Bob the Oil Guy)

http://www.bobistheoilguy.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=538495

Important
Do not use PLUS-50 oil or engine oils meeting API CH-4, API CG4, API CF4, ACEA E3, or ACEA E2 performance levels during the first 100 hours of operation of a new or rebuilt engine. These oils will not allow the engine to break-in properly.

[TylerDurden]

Personally I think that guy doesn't know his head from a hole in the ground, so no I wouldn't use a non diesel rated oil in a diesel. use Rotella T 10w-30 NON synthetic or BRAD PENN 10w-30 diesel rated

Agree.

[8v-of-fury]

What is wrong with the crappy tire 10w30 conventional? $20 for 5L

[casanis]

Can Tire 10W-30 it is! Thanks for the input everyone...

My first rebuild is coming along well. Taking my time, and learning a lot along the way.

I'm wondering - are the tips in the thread (found in the FAQ RE: Break-In process) advisable? Any input/thought would be most appreciated.

Adam.

[air-cooled or diesel]

Personally I think that guy doesn't know his head from a hole in the ground

im not even going to get caught up in how you feel about me

Agree.

[air-cooled or diesel]

Would like to get my hands on some 5W30 Conventional Diesel rated oil for my upcoming break-in. The FAQ/How-To says 5W30 gasser rated is okay to use, but I would prefer the diesel rated stuff if I can find it.

I've checked the local Can Tire, Napa, PartSource and Princess Auto...no luck   Any thoughts would be most appreciated. Should I just stick with gasser 5W30 if all else fails?

Cheers,
Adam.

if your looking for diesel rated oils one place to try is a diesel service center; not an auto part store.
your not going to find nearly as much in an auto parts store, you'll find rotella(conv&syn)(which I don't really like), and synthetic, usually mobil 1.
personally I like to stay away from 5w-40(syn) unless its specifically called for by mfg.

What is wrong with the crappy tire 10w30 conventional? $20 for 5L

Can Tire 10W-30 it is! Thanks for the input everyone...

My first rebuild is coming along well. Taking my time, and learning a lot along the way.

I'm wondering - are the tips in the thread (found in the FAQ RE: Break-In process) advisable? Any input/thought would be most appreciated.

Adam.

?why use some crappy oil for the important break-in period?, you'll definitely get a 'wear pattern'.

[8v-of-fury]

Uhhh cause it is recommended to break in on a conventional oil? What makes it crappy oil? Millions use it.. musnt be too bad.

[air-cooled or diesel]

cause for 1 reason you said this:

What is wrong with the crappy tire 10w30 conventional? $20 for 5L

for another reason I have never even heard of this store, and you also said this

What is wrong with the crappy tire 10w30 conventional? $20 for 5L

lol
im skeptical of this oil, and I don't trust most store brand oils.
oh yea, of course I know you need conv oil for break-in, its my article.

[8v-of-fury]

I didn't figure you would have heard of it being American.. Canadian Tire.. its a big store, nation wide. They've had their own oil product brands for nearly 75 years.

Can you guess who makes their oil for them? Can you? The same people who make the big expensive name brand oils everyone else is always going on about.

"Big Oil" Being; BP plc, Chevron Corporation, ExxonMobil Corporation, Royal Dutch Shell plc and Total SA, with ConocoPhillips Company as well.

[air-cooled or diesel]

I like your candor,hawhaw
in America you can tell who makes oil in the fine print, it should be on the bottom of the bottle, this does not include additives that change from one business to another with the same base oil and a different store name.
I don't know if you have this same 'law' up there.
the base is the same from one mfg, but the add-ons usually change from one business to another making it hard to know what your really getting.

[8v-of-fury]

Ah for sure, for sure. I totally agree, however this is their basic cheapest bottle of oil offered. 10w30 diesel conv.

It meets all the needed API; CD, CF-4, CG-4, CH-4, CI-4 and CI-4plus.

[clbanman]

Guys, before you get all over the poster in the original link, make sure you understand the difference between a "conventional" oil and a gasser oil.   air-cooled or diesel never recommended gasser oil in his FAQ.  He clearly says "CJ/CH" which is a "conventional" or mineral based oil BUT is a diesel oil.   Gasser oil is SJ/SH and would not be recommended because it doesn't hold the diesel "soot" in suspension and flush it out.