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Reply #15June 08, 2011, 04:49:46 pm

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Re: Power shifting?
« Reply #15 on: June 08, 2011, 04:49:46 pm »
I may have my terminology wrong but this thread is about rev matching and shifting without the clutch. Power shifting is when you use the clutch like a normal shift but unlike a normal shift you don't let off the accelerator thus applying power through the shift. If you rev match correctly it doesn't take any power at all to shift without the clutch.

Yes Your right, after researching it I found i had used the incorrect terminology. Rev Matching and no clutch.

everyone with a 020 should learn this along with starting it in 2nd gear with no clutch pushed...

why.....

when cable breaks or pedal assembly breaks on a mk1...

it will get you home without a tow....

there is right/wrong ways...

do not force it.. it will slide like butter if done right... start practice in 3rd to 4th.. easiest one to do.. around town i tend to never use clutch in 3rd to 4th.. just falls in.. really does..

I agree with you %100. I blew a motor mount and it tilted it just so that 2nd and 4th were the only two usable gears.. drove it for over a week like that.. I've never blown the clutch cable, but im interested in the 2nd gear start without a clutch??

The Rev Matching to me doesnt seem to me to be at all harmful to the transmission.. there isnt any work on any parts, not anymore than shifting with the clutch.. you still have to mesh the gears.. and shifting with the clutch too quickly still messes that up....

REV MATCH FOR THE WIN.

Reply #16June 08, 2011, 05:44:27 pm

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Re: Power shifting?
« Reply #16 on: June 08, 2011, 05:44:27 pm »
with engine warm for you diesel people.. probally gas too... start car in 2nd gear when you have nothing infront of you... not that hard. .just something people do not  ever try...  ive limped a few home... limped a few into the shop.. so on...

Reply #17June 08, 2011, 07:01:44 pm

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Re: Power shifting?
« Reply #17 on: June 08, 2011, 07:01:44 pm »
Yep...or if you can muster it in 2nd but I know it will in first...just lean and lean and lean on it with the engine running and usually it will pop into gear with a big jump

Reply #18June 09, 2011, 03:23:35 pm

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Re: Power shifting?
« Reply #18 on: June 09, 2011, 03:23:35 pm »
with engine warm for you diesel people.. probally gas too... start car in 2nd gear when you have nothing infront of you... not that hard. .just something people do not  ever try...  ive limped a few home... limped a few into the shop.. so on...

i start it in first gear, its much easier on the starter.. ive driven quite a few cars home like that. no clutch at all..

whats the reason for starting off in second?
92 Jetta GLI - Black, 1.6D w/ GT2056V turbo..
86 GTI - 4 Door, Med Twilight Gray, Tow Machine..
86 Audi Coupe GT - Tornado Red, All Stock.. WRECKED.
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Turbo: exhaust gasses go into the turbocharger and spin it, witchcraft happens and you go faster.

Reply #19June 10, 2011, 12:13:16 pm

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« Reply #19 on: June 10, 2011, 12:13:16 pm »
So you can go faster than 20mph lmao

Reply #20June 10, 2011, 05:47:18 pm

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« Reply #20 on: June 10, 2011, 05:47:18 pm »
think 2nd is easier on starter then 1st..

Reply #21June 10, 2011, 06:36:29 pm

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« Reply #21 on: June 10, 2011, 06:36:29 pm »
think 2nd is easier on starter then 1st..

first is a lower gear, how could second be easier? thats like saying its easier to start in fifth, rather than first..

first is the lowest gear, it takes the least power to make the car move.. idk if i believe that its easier to take off in second..
92 Jetta GLI - Black, 1.6D w/ GT2056V turbo..
86 GTI - 4 Door, Med Twilight Gray, Tow Machine..
86 Audi Coupe GT - Tornado Red, All Stock.. WRECKED.
89 Toyota 4Runner - Dark Grey Metallic, LIFTED!

Turbo: exhaust gasses go into the turbocharger and spin it, witchcraft happens and you go faster.

Reply #22June 11, 2011, 02:22:05 am

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« Reply #22 on: June 11, 2011, 02:22:05 am »
I think you two are talking about two separate concepts- trying to crank the starter with the transmission in gear and trying to engage a gear from neutral with the engine already running.

Reply #23June 11, 2011, 05:18:41 am

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« Reply #23 on: June 11, 2011, 05:18:41 am »
Or possibility 3, pushing  the car to speed, then dropping it in gear, 2nd may be easier to start, as 1st has the leverage to stop the car before the motor starts.

Reply #24June 11, 2011, 01:03:48 pm

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« Reply #24 on: June 11, 2011, 01:03:48 pm »
starting car from dead stop engine off with it in 2nd... jambing it into gear once running cannot be a good thing.. at a dead stop...

your correct abt 1st.. which also is the issue.. has more load on it in 1st then in 2nd.. think of it as kinda slipping the clutch..

next do you "bump start" your car in 1st??? ive always tended to use 2nd for that too..

Reply #25June 12, 2011, 12:37:08 am

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« Reply #25 on: June 12, 2011, 12:37:08 am »
I've had the best results bumping in first.. but it depends on the speed you can get the car too.. lol

Reply #26June 12, 2011, 03:49:54 pm

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« Reply #26 on: June 12, 2011, 03:49:54 pm »
I've had the best results bumping in first.. but it depends on the speed you can get the car too.. lol
2nd or 3rd gear for a bump start, unless im rolling super slow, then i will use 1st. and when i do it in reverse, i am very careful, because of the glass reverse gear..
92 Jetta GLI - Black, 1.6D w/ GT2056V turbo..
86 GTI - 4 Door, Med Twilight Gray, Tow Machine..
86 Audi Coupe GT - Tornado Red, All Stock.. WRECKED.
89 Toyota 4Runner - Dark Grey Metallic, LIFTED!

Turbo: exhaust gasses go into the turbocharger and spin it, witchcraft happens and you go faster.

Reply #27June 12, 2011, 06:49:09 pm

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« Reply #27 on: June 12, 2011, 06:49:09 pm »
I'f im ever bump starting its usually a battery issue, and the car has happened to stop on completely flat ground and im the only one around.

It loses a lot of speed from the time you stop pushing till you get in and get situated ! LOL

Reply #28June 13, 2011, 01:25:32 am

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« Reply #28 on: June 13, 2011, 01:25:32 am »
I haven't yet had the pleasure of bumpstarting/popstarting my diesel. I thought it would be difficult because of the high compression, is it easy to do?

Reply #29June 13, 2011, 06:47:52 am

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« Reply #29 on: June 13, 2011, 06:47:52 am »
works great if you have enough speed or a hill that doesn't let it slow down too much