you need a diesel specific starter to crank over a diesel.. they are WAY BIGGER than a gasser starter, physically..and they have about 3x the power too..
Quote from: R.O.R-2.0 on March 18, 2011, 05:34:17 pmyou need a diesel specific starter to crank over a diesel.. they are WAY BIGGER than a gasser starter, physically..and they have about 3x the power too..I understand, but gassers are rated 0.7-1.1KW, while diesels are rated 1.5-1.8KWBoth of these starters are listed as for diesel. Both the specifications on them 1.8KW.The only thing I can think of, is that my direct drive starter (16726) is weak from age, and not able to move the larger engine and possibly higher compression numbers because my 1.5 is fairly worn out.I have no idea why VW offered a gear reduction starter that doesn't spin the same speed as the direct drive starter.The AAZ starter, SR0408X is a direct drive unit, and spec'd at 2.0KWI just wondered if anyone else has run into this issue and what solutions they came up with.
all diesel starters ive read specs on, have been in the 2.1+kw range..
How bad are the compression numbers? You might try soaking the cylinders with kerosene for a few weeks to try to loosen up any stuck piston rings. Just be sure to 1) blow out the kerosene thru the injector holes/glow plug holes, don't glow the plugs when cranking, and drain the crank case and refill with fresh oil. If you get better numbers, run it for a short time, and then replace the oil and filter again.I suggested this trick to someone on vwdieselparts.com and they reported improved numbers all around, and more-even numbers across the board. I'm gonna do it to the 3 turbo diesel motors I have kicking around here.
rockauto.com states what the KW rating is.So does Advance Auto partsShort of contacting bosch or VW thats where I got my information from.But yes there is a power difference between gas and diesel starters. If there was one very powerful starter I could use I would like to know so I can use it!
like i stated, mk1 and mk2 starters are the gigantic, direct drive starters.. they require good cables, and a good battery or else they will not spin fast enough..any starter is kinda *marginal* for an engine with 24:1 compression.
Quote from: R.O.R-2.0 on March 19, 2011, 01:40:26 pmlike i stated, mk1 and mk2 starters are the gigantic, direct drive starters.. they require good cables, and a good battery or else they will not spin fast enough..any starter is kinda *marginal* for an engine with 24:1 compression.I hear ya, I had the battery out of my car, has 800CCA was fully charged. I was using jumper cables, I think they were 6 AWG or something. but 12ft long. I should make a better setup for the next go around (I have 0 and 2 AWG laying around and keep the cables to less than 2 ft). I had my charger on the battery, it was only pushing out ~6 Amps but I would wait until my multimeter would read 13.0volts and then hit the starter again.I almost guarantee its because the engine has been sitting for so long and all goo'd up.
The AAZ starter, SR0408X is a direct drive unit, and spec'd at 2.0KW