Definitive Guide to Vehicles with 11mm Pumps???

[superspringer]

Hi guys,
I am trying to source an 11mm pump for my GTDi MK2 project (have stuck with electronic control rather than go down the mechanical route) and my trawl through ebay regularly turns up people breaking TDi's of various guises.

My question is this - I know the 11mm pumps come on auto AFN vehicles, but does EVERY auto have an 11mm pump, and does EVERY 11mm pump come from an auto??? Seems that there is an abundance of Galaxy's breaking at any one time so that might be a road to go down...
Can anybody shed any well informed light on this for me (and anyone else who might be interested!)

Im in the UK if that makes any difference...

Cheers, Adam.

[ryanp]

I'm not too sure if that was only the case for the americas due to emmisions, Take a look at the pump's on the galaxy, the 6th digit would be a 0 for 10mm and 1 for 11mm.

I'd like to know this though!

Ryan

[ptit_lolo]

If you search a 11mm Bosch pump, you can watch Renault pump (Clio Megane Laguna Espace dTi). With a 11mm Bosch head, it won't break.

[snakemaster]

i got a 11mm head from a monteago 2.0l di and i put that on my E tdi mk3 golf pump , ran A1

[kane66]

Getting part numbers is probably the only way your going to be able to tell. But the up side is you'll be able to find a few to bid on and probably find a cheep one by knowing what your getting.

"How do I know what Bosch VE Pump I have or am looking at buying?
The Bosch part number on the Bosch VEs pumps are fairly standard i.e. 0-460-4XX-XXX VE , what are important to note are the 6th and 7th digits of the Bosch Number. The 6th digit indicates the plunger size, 9 for 9mm, 0-10mm, 1-11mm, 2 for12mm. The 7th digit the is the application, 4 for 4cyl., 6 for 6cyl., etc. The specific manufacturers part number may also be on the pump and completly different, for example, the Cummins 4BT injection pump numbers do not indicate plunger size, everyone I have seen to date has been 12mm. Since the 4BT is a 4 Cylinder engine we can assume that part.
3917530  1986-90 VE Series Rotary, CPL 858, 105 HP
3908191   1986-90 VE Series Rotary, CPL 767, 105 HP
3917535  1986-90 VE Series Rotary, CPL 857, 120 HP
3906631  1986-90  VE Series Rotary, CPL 593, 105 HP
3919716  1991-93  VE Series Rotary, CPL 1260, 105 HP
3926831   1991-93 VE Series Rotary, CPL 986 & 1848, 120 HP
The only way to know for sure is with the Bosch part Number."

courtesy of vwdiesel.net

[superspringer]

Cheers for that information - that is SO useful. Can that information be made reaally public (via a moderator or something) as it is pretty key to most TDi builds!?!?

Cheers, Adam

[Vincent Waldon]

Cheers for that information - that is SO useful. Can that information be made reaally public (via a moderator or something) as it is pretty key to most TDi builds!?!?

Cheers, Adam

It's already there, actually.   

http://www.vwdiesel.net/forum/index.php?topic=16687.0, in the VE Pump Info section.

[kane66]

oops meant to include the link.  Thanks Vince

[superspringer]

Apologies in advance to moderators - i posted this in the pump FAQ thread too, but thought it more relevant to put it here.

How do I know what Bosch VE Pump I have or am looking at buying?
The Bosch part number on the Bosch VEs pumps are fairly standard i.e. 0-460-4XX-XXX VE , what are important to note are the 6th and 7th digits of the Bosch Number. The 6th digit indicates the plunger size, 9 for 9mm, 0-10mm, 1-11mm, 2 for12mm. The 7th digit the is the application, 4 for 4cyl., 6 for 6cyl., etc. The specific manufacturers part number may also be on the pump and completly different, for example, the Cummins 4BT injection pump numbers do not indicate plunger size, everyone I have seen to date has been 12mm. Since the 4BT is a 4 Cylinder engine we can assume that part.
3917530  1986-90 VE Series Rotary, CPL 858, 105 HP
3908191   1986-90 VE Series Rotary, CPL 767, 105 HP
3917535  1986-90 VE Series Rotary, CPL 857, 120 HP
3906631  1986-90  VE Series Rotary, CPL 593, 105 HP
3919716  1991-93  VE Series Rotary, CPL 1260, 105 HP
3926831   1991-93 VE Series Rotary, CPL 986 & 1848, 120 HP
The only way to know for sure is with the Bosch part Number.

I don't know if this link has been posted before but it is very useful for crossing Bosch and vehicle manufacturers P/Ns and even finding #s for indevidual pump parts by application.

The pages take a minute or two to load.

enjoy.

http://www.vepump.cn/CZB.htm

Ok...... so I am trying to get a grip with the Bosch or VAG part number for any VAG 11mm (auto trans) electric pump. From the first quote (which seems to make logical sense) it would appear that there would be an 0-460-414-XXX pump that would be fitted to a VW application, but I could not find one on the list in the 2nd quote.
Does anyone have any actual part numbers and application that I can use to trawl through E-bay / scrapyards / classifieds please? So far every "breaking TDI" I have emailed on ebay has come back with a 0-460-404-XXX, regardless of transmission.

Or could it be that there are some 11 mm pumps with 0-460-404-XXX part numbers?

[gigaz2]

nop all bosch should follow that rule