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Reply #15September 12, 2009, 01:39:29 pm

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« Reply #15 on: September 12, 2009, 01:39:29 pm »
I have a great shot of a minty 92 ECO underhood.
IM or post your email addy and I will send it to you.
i'm unable to post pix to a photohoster

it sounds like your system has been modified.
maybe even a rendition of a GTD type cold air intake.

A wet air filter sounds AWFUL strange.

I just looked at those pics and thats what mine looks like.  The problem is that the intake to the airbox is right behind the r/h headlight.  So when you are driving in wet or raining conditions, the water gets rammed in there causeing the wet filter.  I would like to see the intake of the box on that eco from the pics cause it may have a elbow or something to move the inlet over so it doesn't get water rammed in.

Any more pics floating around out there?

Reply #16September 12, 2009, 04:28:32 pm

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« Reply #16 on: September 12, 2009, 04:28:32 pm »
you could cover the opening over with something and use a hole saw to make new openings on the lower half of the air box, you could make them on the inner wing side or by the alternator side if you wanted, or even both

Reply #17September 14, 2009, 06:24:10 pm

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Re: Puff of smoke on start
« Reply #17 on: September 14, 2009, 06:24:10 pm »
Eco owner here...  Yep, sounds like you have a stock box to me, and the snorkel thingy pulls warm air from near the exh. manifold, etc. 

I took my box out (b/c I needed room to put all of my veggie oil plumbing) but IIRC there was some sort of baffle to keep water from getting in.  I'll have to pull it out to refresh my memory.

I used a small cone filter in it's place, but have not been entirely sure that it isn't too small for the task.  Worse, I had to locate it behind the headlight, so it is REALLY exposed to rainwater & car wash blasts.  I would like to re-route it over to the "clutch cable" area of the bay, but haven't figured out exactly what ducting I need.  Was thinking of silicone tube components...
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Reply #18September 16, 2009, 01:08:12 pm

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« Reply #18 on: September 16, 2009, 01:08:12 pm »
Do you still have the old box..  If its not to much trouble, can you let me know and see if you have the baffle you are mentioning.  I will check mine tomorrow and see if mines MIA.

Thx

Reply #19September 19, 2009, 05:41:00 pm

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« Reply #19 on: September 19, 2009, 05:41:00 pm »
Hi Dakota,

Sorry for the delayed response - life's been busy.  Here are some pics of my Eco box.  Best I can tell, any water that finds it's way into the "ram tube" ends up in the bottom of the airbox where it can drain out.  The third pic shows the headlight housing that leads into the airbox.  The last pic shows the metal duct tube that leads back by the exhaust manifold to pick up heat when cold.  Faulty memory, though - no true baffle.  LMK if you have ???s.





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Reply #20September 20, 2009, 12:53:31 am

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« Reply #20 on: September 20, 2009, 12:53:31 am »
Thanks so much for the pics..... I am missing the part in pic 3 that attaches the box to the headlght.  Would you be willing to sell that or sell the whole set up cause you are using veggie.  Let me know

Thx so much

Reply #21September 20, 2009, 05:11:02 am

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« Reply #21 on: September 20, 2009, 05:11:02 am »
I want to hold on to my setup for now - I'm not entirely happy with my configuration yet and don't want to close the door on the stock method until I'm sure.  I'll keep you in mind, though.
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Reply #22September 22, 2009, 10:07:47 pm

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« Reply #22 on: September 22, 2009, 10:07:47 pm »
my experience with the eco diesel is mighty limited but id lay good money down that someone somewhere for whatever reason has used a 1.8 8v gas airbox on your diesel.  you can likely confirm this by looking at the outside of the bottom half of your airbox on the engine side (the only side thats not blocked from easy viewing) you will see a round shape with a little spout. the spout is for a vaccuum line that opens the little gate inside to bring in warm air from the heat off the manifold for proper intake temp. there is no call for this in a MK2 diesel (no computer).  also the diesel will get its air from inside the fender. you can see a 5"x5" square hole where a plastic plate goes in and an elbow feeds air into the far side of the bottom half of the airbox.   ;)  pick up any old IDI airbox and buy a new filter. paper filters dont come back from getting wet. good luck

Reply #23September 23, 2009, 04:36:43 am

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« Reply #23 on: September 23, 2009, 04:36:43 am »
Thx for the reply.  as far as I have researched this is the correct air box set up for the eco. The mounting holes in the inner fender are stock and meant for this set up.. So are the hooks to keep the box in place.   I have no place to put a intake through the fender.  Completely blocked off.  I will try and find another setup but I will also keep looking for the part I am missing to complete the stock eco package.

Thx again!!! :)