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Reply #15January 12, 2008, 01:06:01 am

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« Reply #15 on: January 12, 2008, 01:06:01 am »
how much for a set of shims for eight injectors? 1.6L single spring

i dont have a pop tester yet, however, so i am only "tire kicking" untill i could find one to use / borrow in my area.

i would be re-building and installing new nozles- lapping the mating surfaces, then matchium up the injectors to within 5 bar / 75 psi.

Reply #16January 12, 2008, 11:45:56 am

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« Reply #16 on: January 12, 2008, 11:45:56 am »
Quote from: "jaw174"
how much for a set of shims for eight injectors? 1.6L single spring

i dont have a pop tester yet, however, so i am only "tire kicking" untill i could find one to use / borrow in my area.

i would be re-building and installing new nozles- lapping the mating surfaces, then matchium up the injectors to within 5 bar / 75 psi.


the smallest amount of shims that you can get in on this deal is a 5count of 24 different shims is about 70bucks + shipping! so for 8 injectors you will have alot left over?
thanks Duane
injector rebuilds call  414-840-1395 for faster service not on line much!
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Reply #17January 19, 2008, 08:07:28 am

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« Reply #17 on: January 19, 2008, 08:07:28 am »
I'd like to have a date for cut off so we can get ordering on the way!
 does anyone have a problem with FEBURARY 1st.  to have the money in to saurkraut?
let us know?
thanks Duane
injector rebuilds call  414-840-1395 for faster service not on line much!
'66 variant 1500S
'81 2dr n/a 1.6 diesel rabbit 8"lift 260K R.I.P.
'81 caddy gas 1.8 turbo/stroker W/N.O.S.
'81 caddy 1.9 turbo diesel
'82 caddy gas 1.8 G60
 3 jettas '82' '04 '14TDI
+1 rabbit,03 HD sc.eag. duece,46,&5

Reply #18January 19, 2008, 01:19:10 pm

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« Reply #18 on: January 19, 2008, 01:19:10 pm »
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ok guys shims can be bought in quanities! Thanks to "saurkraut" he found a reputal source for them! the catch is the more we buy the cheaper they are a piece! so saurkraut is going to post the different price ranges after this entry!
the 40 piece of each size looks to be the best bargan? or there is the corporate discount range? saurkraut will handel the ordering and i will handel the distrabution of everyones orders! i think some will come mixed up and will need to be measured and sorted? so lets see if this works well and i think  we an get other products also? but first the shims! to get at the 40pc.with more people we can even split it to smaller to a 5count per person witch will be around 70bucks per person for 120 shims! we will let this add run for a while? send me a P.M. of your address and phonee# so i have shipping info. on who is ordering! Thanks and i'll will return mine!

                            DEAD LINE DATE
LIKE TO HAVE MONEY IN BY FEB. 1st "08 CONTACT SAURKRAUT FOR PAYPAL ARRANGMENTS! and i will mark your name on my list paid!
  post your intrest!
 and we are start taking orders!

 thanks Duane
list= for 10 count
blkboostedtruck
saurkraut
turbinpowered 1/2 order
the caveman  1/2 order
Vincent Walden 1/2 order
injector rebuilds call  414-840-1395 for faster service not on line much!
'66 variant 1500S
'81 2dr n/a 1.6 diesel rabbit 8"lift 260K R.I.P.
'81 caddy gas 1.8 turbo/stroker W/N.O.S.
'81 caddy 1.9 turbo diesel
'82 caddy gas 1.8 G60
 3 jettas '82' '04 '14TDI
+1 rabbit,03 HD sc.eag. duece,46,&5

Reply #19January 19, 2008, 07:27:18 pm

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« Reply #19 on: January 19, 2008, 07:27:18 pm »
BTW, there was some earlier discussion about the shims in standard 1.5/1.6 injectors vs. the shims in an AAZ injector.

Finally took some pictures... the AAZ injector is at the top:



As you can see... the dual-spring shims are quite different in size.... sigh.
Vince

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Reply #20January 19, 2008, 07:59:51 pm

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« Reply #20 on: January 19, 2008, 07:59:51 pm »
Vince,
 what is the O.D. of the small shim?
 what is the I.D. of the big shim?
 it's hard to tell in the pic.!
 reason is the shims i got from my injector buying venture had alot of different I.D. and the center hole is not critical as long as there is enough for the spring to rest on! i got alot of shims with different center holes!
but does the shims on the aaz one fits over the other inside the housing sits the same place as the single spring injector? will the single spring shim fit inside the aaz larger shim?
thanks Duane
injector rebuilds call  414-840-1395 for faster service not on line much!
'66 variant 1500S
'81 2dr n/a 1.6 diesel rabbit 8"lift 260K R.I.P.
'81 caddy gas 1.8 turbo/stroker W/N.O.S.
'81 caddy 1.9 turbo diesel
'82 caddy gas 1.8 G60
 3 jettas '82' '04 '14TDI
+1 rabbit,03 HD sc.eag. duece,46,&5

Reply #21January 20, 2008, 12:21:30 am

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« Reply #21 on: January 20, 2008, 12:21:30 am »
I didn't mike em, and they are back in the engine (hoping to finally turn the key tomorrow!) but they are exactly the right side to go into specific drillings in the housing... in other words, they are an exact fit, so the single spring shim will not work, nor would either of the other two work in a single spring housing.
Vince

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Reply #22January 20, 2008, 07:49:52 am

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« Reply #22 on: January 20, 2008, 07:49:52 am »
The smaller AAZ shim looks similar th the small TDI shim to me, and the 1.6 shim looks similar to the larger TDI shim.

TDI injector inner shim diameter appx 1.15mm, small outer 2.8mm, large outer 4mm.
Jim
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Reply #23January 20, 2008, 08:16:45 am

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« Reply #23 on: January 20, 2008, 08:16:45 am »
Quote from: "Vincent Waldon"
I didn't mike em, and they are back in the engine (hoping to finally turn the key tomorrow!) but they are exactly the right side to go into specific drillings in the housing... in other words, they are an exact fit, so the single spring shim will not work, nor would either of the other two work in a single spring housing.


that does make sence that they would have a spot machined to keep the centered in the housing well thanks that clears that up for me!
thanks Duane
injector rebuilds call  414-840-1395 for faster service not on line much!
'66 variant 1500S
'81 2dr n/a 1.6 diesel rabbit 8"lift 260K R.I.P.
'81 caddy gas 1.8 turbo/stroker W/N.O.S.
'81 caddy 1.9 turbo diesel
'82 caddy gas 1.8 G60
 3 jettas '82' '04 '14TDI
+1 rabbit,03 HD sc.eag. duece,46,&5

Reply #24January 20, 2008, 08:30:13 am

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« Reply #24 on: January 20, 2008, 08:30:13 am »
Do either of the TD injectors have the pin like the TDI one? If not then I don't see where the inner diameter would matter at all, and the outer diameter shouldn't be as critical as the shim can't keep the spring centered.
Jim
1966 Land-Rover 88" with 1.9 1Z which has been transformed to an M-TDI
TFO35 mechanically controlled VNT, IC , and 2.5" exhaust.
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Reply #25January 20, 2008, 08:50:54 am

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« Reply #25 on: January 20, 2008, 08:50:54 am »
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Do either of the TD injectors have the pin like the TDI one? If not then I don't see where the inner diameter would matter at all, and the outer diameter shouldn't be as critical as the shim can't keep the spring centered.


 the single spring shim i have some in my collection now and the O.D. is 11.44 to 11.42mm and the center hole I.D. is from 3.02mm to 5.05mm depending on who made the shim i guess as long as there is a hole in the center it will work! fuel goes through the center hole. now remember i refering to the old style injectors! i don't have any other's to compare thats why i ask?
thanks Duane
injector rebuilds call  414-840-1395 for faster service not on line much!
'66 variant 1500S
'81 2dr n/a 1.6 diesel rabbit 8"lift 260K R.I.P.
'81 caddy gas 1.8 turbo/stroker W/N.O.S.
'81 caddy 1.9 turbo diesel
'82 caddy gas 1.8 G60
 3 jettas '82' '04 '14TDI
+1 rabbit,03 HD sc.eag. duece,46,&5

Reply #26January 20, 2008, 09:03:05 am

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« Reply #26 on: January 20, 2008, 09:03:05 am »
Oops, looks like I did my measurements in inches but put mm. The shim hole is about 2.1 mm, small shim outer is about 7.2mm, large outer is 10.15mm
Jim
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Reply #27January 20, 2008, 01:37:39 pm

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« Reply #27 on: January 20, 2008, 01:37:39 pm »
I don't think the size of the hole probably matters much (as long as there is one to let diesel back thru the return line) but the outer diameter is pretty critical for all three shims (two in the AAZ and one in the "normal") since in all 3 cases the shim fits is a pocket machined into the top injector half.

Does anyone know for sure that rounding up a standard set of TD  hardlines is all that's needed to convert an AAZ engine back to "normal" injectors ??

Oh and more to the subject at hand... is there a list of of how much money (including shipping) we should each be contributing to this shim buy ??!  Don't want anyone to be out of pocket.....
Vince

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Reply #28January 20, 2008, 03:00:05 pm

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« Reply #28 on: January 20, 2008, 03:00:05 pm »
Vince,
 as soon as the company gets back with saurkraut! should hear in a day or 2? were confirming the 400 count to get the better price! he will post his paypal address and the correct amount that needs to be sent to him from everyone and i will remind everyone my self that the info is posted!

 but don't forget everyone!! FEB. 1st. have your payment to saurkraut so we can order that week!
info will be posted shortly!
 thanks Duane
injector rebuilds call  414-840-1395 for faster service not on line much!
'66 variant 1500S
'81 2dr n/a 1.6 diesel rabbit 8"lift 260K R.I.P.
'81 caddy gas 1.8 turbo/stroker W/N.O.S.
'81 caddy 1.9 turbo diesel
'82 caddy gas 1.8 G60
 3 jettas '82' '04 '14TDI
+1 rabbit,03 HD sc.eag. duece,46,&5

Reply #29January 21, 2008, 12:15:48 pm

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« Reply #29 on: January 21, 2008, 12:15:48 pm »
Group buy pricing:
 

Shims………………Price
½ Set………………$80.77…………….turbine powered, caveman, and Vince
Full Set +………..$200.37………….blkboostedtruck, saurkraut


 
Price includes shipping, handling, repackaging, and final shipping.

I'll be buying the 400 piece quantity, drop shipping them to blkboostedtruck.  He'll repackage, and ship to all in the group.

We kind of fell short on the quantities, so blkboostedtruck and I will split the cost of the excess.  If anyone else wants a half set, speak now.

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