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Engine Specific Info and Questions => IDI Engine => Topic started by: Northern RD on June 26, 2007, 10:23:38 am

Title: A1 factory tach again,.....
Post by: Northern RD on June 26, 2007, 10:23:38 am: http://oak.cats.ohiou.edu/~mw105397/mk1cluster/00086.jpg

Alas,......
Title: A1 factory tach again,.....
Post by: RabbitJockey on June 26, 2007, 03:57:20 pm: pssh i like mine better, i would have put a diesel speedo in this one but the guy i did it for didn't want me to.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v306/Trev0rbr/DSCN0041.jpg)
Title: A1 factory tach again,.....
Post by: TD_Bunny on June 26, 2007, 11:53:58 pm: where do you get a factory diesel tach at? and if not factory then where could i get a tach from that would work in my A1?
Title: A1 factory tach again,.....
Post by: burn_your_money on June 27, 2007, 05:02:39 am: PM Trev0rbr, the one in the first link appears to be one of the few ones ever made, and may have only been a prototype
Title: A1 factory tach again,.....
Post by: myke_w on June 27, 2007, 06:48:32 am: I'm pretty sure it must be a prototype, it has 0 miles and has never been installed, there are no marks on the electrical connectors or any evidence of installation on the plastic tabs (screw marks).
Title: A1 factory tach again,.....
Post by: BlackTieTD on June 27, 2007, 08:24:23 am: Quote from: Trev0rbr
pssh i like mine better, i would have put a diesel speedo in this one but the guy i did it for didn't want me to.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v306/Trev0rbr/DSCN0041.jpg)

isn't that just a converted gasser cluster?
Title: A1 factory tach again,.....
Post by: myke_w on June 27, 2007, 08:52:10 am: The one in that pic is indeed gas
Title: A1 factory tach again,.....
Post by: Darth Garry on June 27, 2007, 08:52:38 am: I don't know why VW didn't put a tach in everything. Who needs a stupid clock!

Garry
Title: A1 factory tach again,.....
Post by: myke_w on June 27, 2007, 08:56:43 am: true dat, plus to make a production run all the same seems like it would be cheaper anyway
Title: A1 factory tach again,.....
Post by: Northern RD on June 27, 2007, 10:10:59 am: Quote from: myke_w
I'm pretty sure it must be a prototype, it has 0 miles and has never been installed, there are no marks on the electrical connectors or any evidence of installation on the plastic tabs (screw marks).

The whole point of creating a prototype is to test the product in the real world in order to see how it stands up :testing means use and wear. As well, one of the other pics at this guys` site illustates a part number and why would you issue a part number to something that`s a one-off or two-off? What we probably have here is an example of a rare OEM istem that was sitting in someones` part stock unsold. And, given that it was @$200 in 1981(in addition to the cost of insallation), I imagine that there`s not many of them around, which would account for the rarity,...
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Title: A1 factory tach again,.....
Post by: myke_w on June 27, 2007, 10:13:37 am: the pics are from my site, and there is no factory vw style part # on this cluster, only production dates..

I can reference all #'s against the etka and see what there is there.
Title: A1 factory tach again,.....
Post by: Northern RD on June 27, 2007, 10:22:50 am: Quote from: myke_w
the pics are from my site, and there is no factory vw style part # on this cluster, only production dates..

I can reference all #'s against the etka and see what there is there.

You might want the check with anyone in South Africa VW as the tach is still an option in that market and fairly common in the bone yards there,..
Title: A1 factory tach again,.....
Post by: burn_your_money on June 27, 2007, 10:25:08 am: I'm asking someone in Cape Town right now....
Title: A1 factory tach again,.....
Post by: Northern RD on June 27, 2007, 10:30:30 am: Quote from: burn_your_money
I'm asking someone in Cape Town right now....

Check with Ron at Rons parts: his outfit is based in SA,..
Title: A1 factory tach again,.....
Post by: burn_your_money on June 27, 2007, 10:51:19 am: I didn't get a response, he may have just been signed into MSN
Title: A1 factory tach again,.....
Post by: Northern RD on June 27, 2007, 11:07:20 am: Quote from: burn_your_money
I didn't get a response, he may have just been signed into MSN

Or these guys:
http://www.vwclub.co.za/vwforum/garage.php?sid=8dcf43374e0436d17920403b0e137398
Title: A1 factory tach again,.....
Post by: Darth Garry on June 27, 2007, 12:56:21 pm: What I find curious is that the tach goes to 7K rpm, which diesels can't even approach. It would seem to me to be a gas tach put into a diesel cluster.

Or something else even stranger....

Garry
Title: A1 factory tach again,.....
Post by: BlackTieTD on June 27, 2007, 01:09:41 pm: that one pictured appears to be just a gasser cluster modified to work off diesel signal, with a glow plug light put in to top it off. fairly common and easy to do. the factory mkI diesel tach (http://oak.cats.ohiou.edu/~mw105397/mk1cluster/00086.jpg)is what's interesting.........
Title: A1 factory tach again,.....
Post by: myke_w on June 27, 2007, 01:35:59 pm: Trev0rbr's is a gasser version modded to work with a diesel, hence the 7k "unleaded only".
Title: A1 factory tach again,.....
Post by: RabbitJockey on June 27, 2007, 08:59:49 pm: yeah the picture i put up is one i made, i didn't like that one since it had the gasser speedo, but thats what the guy wanted me to do so i did it.
Title: A1 factory tach again,.....
Post by: TD_Bunny on June 28, 2007, 04:30:10 pm: BlackTieTD, what MK1 came factory with a diesel tach? That is what i would like to get my hands on. I will have to look around a couple salvage yards for one now!!
Title: A1 factory tach again,.....
Post by: burn_your_money on June 28, 2007, 05:29:16 pm: Quote from: "TD_Bunny"
I will have to look around a couple salvage yards for one now!!

Waste of time IMO. The one pictured is the ONLY one I have ever seen and as mentioned it appears to be a one off
Title: A1 factory tach again,.....
Post by: BlackTieTD on June 28, 2007, 06:42:21 pm: i have to agree
Title: A1 factory tach again,.....
Post by: Northern RD on June 29, 2007, 07:15:57 am: Quote from: burn_your_money
Quote from: TD_Bunny
I will have to look around a couple salvage yards for one now!!

Waste of time IMO. The one pictured is the ONLY one I have ever seen and as mentioned it appears to be a one off

Highly unlikly, given that the wiring diagrams in the A1 diesel Bentley illustrate a tach:why would they do that if it was a one-off?
Title: A1 factory tach again,.....
Post by: the4ork on June 29, 2007, 09:44:27 am: i'd like to have the factory diesel tach and the gas speedometer (i hate 85mph max speedo)

the 7k tach would be fine, just re-face it... the diesel CAN go to 5k+... most cars that redline between 6-7 their tachs often go up to 8k not too much of a difference
Title: A1 factory tach again,.....
Post by: RabbitJockey on June 30, 2007, 08:26:45 am: yeah especially if you plan to do any kind of governor mod i would let the gasser rev range on the tach, that lets u rev to like 6k doesn't it? so u only have an extra 1000 rpms. and yeah i definetly like putting the gti speed in the diesel housings. i love the 120 speedo in my jetta, it was cool finding out how fast i was going past 85 haha.
Title: A1 factory tach again,.....
Post by: veeman on July 03, 2007, 02:07:07 pm: Yep... I did the gasser conversion as well. I used the Dakota Digital converter / alt terminal mod then used a sharpie to "lower" the redline.

Isn't the scale / orientation the same on the OEM one as the gasser tach? Looks like they just left off the last few units. I'd imagine you could make the gasser tachlook the same as the "OEM" one in the pic with some careful paint touch-up work.

(http://www.hostdub.com/albums/veeman_album07/TD_tach_1.sized.jpg) (http://www.hostdub.com/veeman_album07/TD_tach_1)

(http://www.hostdub.com/albums/veeman_album07/TD_tach_2.jpg) (http://www.hostdub.com/veeman_album07/TD_tach_2)
Title: A1 factory tach again,.....
Post by: the4ork on July 03, 2007, 02:54:04 pm: or some new gauge overlay / faces