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Title: Have a question about Eco-D.
Post by: jacoblawler on May 26, 2004, 09:21:42 am

I am not new to vws by any means but I am new to diesels.  My dad wrecked his 91 Eco-Diesel and thinking about putting it in my 90 Jetta.  I know the swap wont be hard it is about the engine I am concerned about.  I know if has no fuel enrichment (which maybe someone could elaborate how it works on a diesel) and a smaller turbo.  So I was wondering if I was not only looking for better gas mileage would it be worth putting this motor in because I wanted an engine that I could "toy" around with some.  Thanks.

Title: Have a question about Eco-D.
Post by: BlackTieTD on May 26, 2004, 09:46:51 am

you could always put on a bigger turbo and a proper turbo diesel injection pump...and whatever else you'd need to make it a proper TD.

the eco-diesel is a good place to start... its free right?

i'd throw it in and swap the proper 'go fast' TD parts down the road.

Title: Have a question about Eco-D.
Post by: Spike_TDI on May 26, 2004, 11:22:15 am

I'm sure that the Eco and TD use the same K03 turbo. All you need is the injection pump. PM me I have one forsale.

Title: Have a question about Eco-D.
Post by: dieselpower on May 26, 2004, 09:47:33 pm

I thought the TD had a k24 turbo not the K03.

Title: Have a question about Eco-D.
Post by: VWRacer on May 27, 2004, 12:07:38 am

My '85 Quantum 1.6 TD has a K24 turbo.

Title: Have a question about Eco-D.
Post by: BlackTieTD on May 27, 2004, 07:33:03 am

so its easy to bring it up to TD level then.. fit an injection pump with the boost aneroid and you're set... or if you can get just the aneroid, you can fit that to your existing NA pump. see where you stand after that.  :D

Title: Have a question about Eco-D.
Post by: Rat407 on May 27, 2004, 07:52:55 pm

If I'm reading my data plate right my Eco diesel has a K14 turbo.  Would it really be worth the swap of the injection pump from an eco to a regular TD? Is there really that much of a difference?

Title: Have a question about Eco-D.
Post by: BlackTieTD on May 28, 2004, 11:42:27 am

Quote from: "Rat407"

If I'm reading my data plate right my Eco diesel has a K14 turbo.  Would it really be worth the swap of the injection pump from an eco to a regular TD? Is there really that much of a difference?

eco has a turbo to be fuel efficient

TD has a turbo to be fast(er)

thats a broad statement but its basically true.

yes, the TD pump will yield a significant performance increase over your eco pump. the eco pump AFAIK does not have a boost aneroid, which is what senses the turbo making boost, and it adds extra fuel, which means more power. no boost aneroid, no extra fuel/power... just better economy.

Title: Have a question about Eco-D.
Post by: DieselsRcool on May 28, 2004, 12:03:53 pm

Seems I remember reading somewhere that the turbo was used on eco-diesel primarily to eliminate smoke. Hard to beat the mpg of the NA. Does the eco-diesel get better mpg? I was also under the impression that the name implies Eco-friendly as in less visible polution. Maybe both, eco-friendly and eco-nomical.  :)

Title: Have a question about Eco-D.
Post by: AntonUK on May 29, 2004, 08:03:31 pm

I live in the UK as far as i know (and according to documents) i have a 1.9TD but its called an 'umwelt' which translates environment in german. but it does have a boost compensator aneroid on the pump. should i ignore the umwelt name and assume its still the nippy TD? It keeps puzzling me :?