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Engine Specific Info and Questions => IDI Engine => Topic started by: link1235jeffvw on December 09, 2004, 07:31:58 pm
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i have a vw rabbit ls diesel ls 1.6 whont to do a engine swap what diesel engind to use i have been told the 1.9 IDI
how easy is the swap
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what do you want to accomplish with the swap? is your engine toast, or do you simply want more power? is yours turbo or N/A?
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more power and its a nonturdo
also wont to show the car it runs on french frie oil
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more power and its a nonturdo
also wont to show the car it runs on french frie oil
you can do a lot with a 1.6TD and it bolts right into your car. Not sure if the 1.9 will without modifications.
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does any one have a how to on a 1.6td or a 1.9tdt engine
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I'm a bit confused on what you're asking. Maybe you could try writing it a bit clearer, in plain english.
I have done the 1.6 non-turbo to 1.6 Turbo swap and it's not all that hard if you have time, space, and a little bit of money. The biggest challenge is the source of the 1.6 TD motor. If you find one in a MK2 VW, you will have to move motor mounts and the like. If you find one from a MK1 VW, it should almost be like Windows, drag and drop....but with just as many crashes!!!
Mikey
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im in high school auto 3 and the teacher would a how to list
if i do the swap what do i need to buy electric wise and is there any electric work involved to swap a 1.6non td in my vw rabbit ls diesel 2 door 4 speed and runs on french frie oil but change it out and put a 1.9tdt in what do u think it will invovle
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im in high school auto 3 and the teacher would a how to list
if i do the swap what do i need to buy electric wise and is there any electric work involved to swap a 1.6non td in my vw rabbit ls diesel 2 door 4 speed and runs on french frie oil but change it out and put a 1.9tdt in what do u think it will invovle
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im in high school auto 3 and the teacher would a how to list
if i do the swap what do i need to buy electric wise and is there any electric work involved to swap a 1.6non td in my vw rabbit ls diesel 2 door 4 speed and runs on french frie oil but change it out and put a 1.9tdt in what do u think it will invovle
Putting a 1.9 TD in a rabbit will involve quite a bit of work, if it is possible. The 4spd you have probably won't bolt up to the 1.9 engine. The 1.9 TD injection pump has electrical devices that your rabbit was not designed for so you will need to fabricate the wiring and such. The motor mounts, as the above poster said, are also different. I think that a 1.9 TD into a rabbit would involve quite a bit of modification. Your best bet would be to find a rebuildable 1.6TD in an MK1 jetta (or a rabbit, but there weren't too many of them) and swap that in. Or find one in an MK2 Jetta and modify the motor mounts and fabricate the wiring for the injection pump.
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do you want to install a TDI or a IDI?
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I am not sure but I think that even the TDI's will bolt up to the transmission found in the rabbit, weather it holds or not is another story
It seems that I saw a thread that a guy had put a TDI in his rabbit pickup I think that this thread is at www.vwdieselparts.com/forum somewhere, i will try to find the link for you
later
justin
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ok how easy is it to install a 1.6 turdo engine and wire it up
do i have to change the block or what or do i need a hole new engine
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I am not sure how hard it is to install the turbo engine since i have never tried it but i think that it should be pretty straight forward it will just be a tighter fit than than the NA
you will also need to install oil lines to the turbo to keep it from over heating and just to lubricate it. and you may want an intercooler
there should be any more electonics on the 1.6 turbo than there are on the 1.6 NA
a lot of guys say that you need the turbo block because it has the oil squirters for the pistons to keep them cool, but i have seen auto companies that drill a small hole in the upper part of the connecting rod that squirts oil onto the bottom of the piston and i think that vw owners could do the same
and there are guys that run turbos with low boost without oil squirters
so you shouldnt need a whole new engine but it will require a different set of manifolds i believe
i am probably missing a few things, guys??
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ok how easy is it to install a 1.6 turdo engine and wire it up
do i have to change the block or what or do i need a hole new engine
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help me
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A 1.6 TD bolts into your Rabbit. There is really no extra wiring
A 1.9 IDI bolts into your Rabbit, but I have heard the block is a bit taller so you may have to extend your downpipe. If it's a 1.9 Turbo IDI then you'd have to make your own downpipe anyways and there are no significant electronics there either.
A 1.9 TDI will bolt in if it's out of a MK3 Chassis (93-99.5), but there is probably a crossover point somewhere toward the end of the chassis to where the engine will no longer bolt in. There is electronics associated with this engine, but it is by far the best diesel VW used. The 99+ TDI will fit, but you will have to fabricate a new passenger motor mount and the downpipe of course. 2001 and later cars had an immobilizer that causes problems with the swap so that further complicates things.
All of these engines will bolt to your transmission. I think most of the problem you're having getting answers here is because you aren't using complete sentences and no one knows what you're talking about.
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as for electrical... there isnt much. Just a few odd sensors here and there - glowplug, water level, washer fluid, oil pres... oh yea dont forget to wire up the starter and alt (duh)
diesels are simply amazing electrical wise! Hell... there could be a nuclear explosion and your car would still run (maybe not start... but it would run!! if you survive the blast haha)
as for the swap. If you just use the block, you run into many problems. Best thing is to find a working 1.6TD and drop it in. While you drop it in check motor mounts, maybe put in a new clutch... odd things that make all the difference.
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Do not waste your time, using the 1.6L n/a, and adding the turbo manifolds, you are asking for troubles. Especially when it sounds as though you are not too familiar with these engines. Trust me I learned the hard way! This summer, I swapped to a 1.6 TD. If you are familiar with changing engines, this will be easy. There is no electrical changes. The only thing I found to watch for is the rear engine mount and the clearance of it and the turbo oil return line. I believe that was it. There are no scary electronics to worry about, and if you are swapping in a used engine from a donor car, the oil line from the oil filter housing to the turbo, should be there. As should the return line on the back side from the turbo to the oil pan.
For the most trouble free solution, just swap to the 1.6L turbo, or leave it als is :roll:
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Rip the engine out of your car and buy whatever you want to put in. Then you'll have to figure it out. :) You will need a timing gauge which is worth as much as the timing parts. Expect to lose a month of car use, that's how long it took my friend to put replace his 1970s 305 with a 350. But hey, when you're only 16 and get 4 hours a week to work on a car it takes time.
Cheers, Steve