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Title: WTB: Quantum or Fox 5-Speed Transmission
Post by: lacolocho on April 03, 2007, 02:51:05 pm
Looking for a 5-speed for my Dasher. Hopedully not just the transmission but the whole setup (shifter, linkage, flywheel, clutch, etc.)

Preferably from a Quantum TD, but I think a Fox 5-Speed would work, and I would consider one from a gasser Quantum.
Title: WTB: Quantum or Fox 5-Speed Transmission
Post by: Turbinepowered on April 03, 2007, 04:01:26 pm
I thought you'd just bought a parts Quantum... something happen with that deal?
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Post by: lacolocho on April 03, 2007, 04:11:58 pm
yeah, it didn't happen. Didn't have the space for it...
Title: WTB: Quantum or Fox 5-Speed Transmission
Post by: Turbinepowered on April 03, 2007, 04:28:25 pm
Sucks. I'm in the process of cutting apart a TD Quantum, but it was an automatic.

[edit]Found a couple Fox transmissions, manual, on mypartshop.com. Select "All Parts" before you start searching, run an '88 VW Fox Trasmission/Transaxle Assembly as your search. Didn't know your ZIP, so I looked up one for Portland and used that, 97204.
Title: out of curiosity...
Post by: lacolocho on April 03, 2007, 04:33:24 pm
do you know the gear ratios for the automatic TD?
Title: WTB: Quantum or Fox 5-Speed Transmission
Post by: Turbinepowered on April 03, 2007, 04:45:44 pm
Not off the top of my head, but give me five minutes...
Title: WTB: Quantum or Fox 5-Speed Transmission
Post by: Turbinepowered on April 03, 2007, 04:50:05 pm
First: 2.55/2.71
Second: 1.45/1.5
Third: 1
Reverse: 2.46/2.43
FD: 3.08

The numbers on either side of the slashes are for KU/KAC code transmissions, respectively. I'll need to cut my way to it to see which it is, but I'd be glad to do that for you.

[edit]Well dang, that was almost exactly five minutes. Crunching the numbers, the 5-speed 013 (Four cylinder transmission, Quantum) would only get you a final ratio of 3:1 in fifth gear ([email protected] final drive), so the automatic's 3.08 ([email protected] FD) is only slightly worse. No clue on the Fox transmission numbers.
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Post by: lacolocho on April 03, 2007, 04:51:15 pm
no, that's ok
i was just curious
Title: WTB: Quantum or Fox 5-Speed Transmission
Post by: Turbinepowered on April 03, 2007, 05:04:52 pm
FYR (For your reference):

Dasher:
1st 3.454
2nd (to July '74) 2.055
2nd (From Aug '74)  1.947
2nd (From Oct '74) 1.944
3rd (ZV, ZS, YZ) 1.370
3rd (XH, XK, YT, 1T) 1.286
4th (ZV, ZS) .968
4th (YZ)   .939
4th (XH, YT, 1T, XK) .882

FD: 4.11

Diesels from '79 and onward are YT or 1T


Quantum TD 5-speed (4-cylinder, 013 trans)

1st 3.455
2nd 1.944
3rd: 1.286
4th: .909
5th: .730

FD: 4.11
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Post by: lacolocho on April 03, 2007, 05:07:38 pm
thanks
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Post by: lacolocho on April 03, 2007, 05:10:45 pm
do you know anything about the Fox 5-speed transmission? I found this website: http://members.shaw.ca/icollect01/voxwagentransmission.html

And I'm wondering if it would be harder to mount than the Quantum TD tranny.

Also, I'm wondering if I might even be better off with a 5-speed from a 4cyl Gas Quantum b/c I have the extra HP with my modified IP. I know 5th gear is something like .60. Do you know the gear ratios for that one?? Any thoughts?
Title: WTB: Quantum or Fox 5-Speed Transmission
Post by: Turbinepowered on April 03, 2007, 05:21:37 pm
Quantum Gasser Trans (013, 2M/5M)
        2M   /  5M
1st 3.455
2nd 1.700/1.789
3rd 1.065
4th .778
5th .600

FD 4.11

No, no clue on the Fox gearing. Supposedly, they suck. [edit] seems like the guy on that site is comparing transverse and longitudinal transmissions in the same tables, so... just remember that some of those transmissions likely wouldn't even come close to fitting in the Fox.
Title: WTB: Quantum or Fox 5-Speed Transmission
Post by: lacolocho on April 04, 2007, 02:09:41 pm
So, I think I found a place with a transmission, but I still need the rest of the assembly.

I just got a new clutch disc for my current 4-speed. Will it work with the Quantum 5-speed?

I'm assuming I just need the flywheel, shifter, and linkage. Is there anything else that I need to use from the Quantum?