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General Information => Troubleshooting => Topic started by: addautomotive on March 23, 2007, 07:20:49 pm

Title: HALP!! Need head bolt torque, ASAP!
Post by: addautomotive on March 23, 2007, 07:20:49 pm
I have my head off and am just getting ready to bolt it back down.

Went to get the head bolt torque specs, and realized I loaned out my Bently. Halp!

I really want to button this SOB back together tonight.
Title: HALP!! Need head bolt torque, ASAP!
Post by: addautomotive on March 23, 2007, 07:33:43 pm
sorry, just refined my search and found a post by 935racer

30
45
quarter turn
quarter turn
warm up the car
quarter turn

Don't tell my mom, but I'm reusing the head bolts.
Title: HALP!! Need head bolt torque, ASAP!
Post by: insdtanoodles on March 23, 2007, 09:55:02 pm
Quote from: addautomotive
sorry, just refined my search and found a post by 935racer

30
45
quarter turn
quarter turn
warm up the car
quarter turn

Don't tell my mom, but I'm reusing the head bolts.


good luck if you are reusing the head bolts
Title: HALP!! Need head bolt torque, ASAP!
Post by: jtanguay on March 24, 2007, 04:34:44 am
if you absolutely need to re-use the head bolts.. i'd say go for it... are you at least re-using the head gasket then??? no sense wasting a HG...
Title: HALP!! Need head bolt torque, ASAP!
Post by: burn_your_money on March 24, 2007, 05:11:43 am
If you are reusing the headbolts you better have a 1.5 engine, and if you have a 1.5 engine you better not be following those tightening proceedures
Title: HALP!! Need head bolt torque, ASAP!
Post by: addautomotive on March 24, 2007, 06:56:47 am
Nope, 1.6.

I agree that new headbolts is the way to go, but this engine is coming out within a year. It's in the samurai, and I have another engine on a stand being built.
Title: HALP!! Need head bolt torque, ASAP!
Post by: burn_your_money on March 24, 2007, 07:08:31 am
I hope they don't sheer off in the block
Title: HALP!! Need head bolt torque, ASAP!
Post by: jtanguay on March 24, 2007, 08:27:10 am
Quote from: "burn_your_money"
I hope they don't sheer off in the block


 :shock:  hehe... drive carefully... very carefully!
Title: HALP!! Need head bolt torque, ASAP!
Post by: subsonic on March 24, 2007, 08:42:50 am
This is a fine example of why I will be using ARP head studs during my build.  I hate putting something back together and finding out I need a part that I dont have or need.  This will eliminate one small possability of " Oh ***, I thought I had that.  What time is it? 5 o' clock! *** everything just closed!"  Of course I have reused parts I wasnt supposed to in the past. Most hold just fine.  Of course I have also broken some and tripled the time and effort I had planned on something simple.  Usually accompanied by a proliferation of profanity and non-kind statements about quality control and the manufactorer in general.  When my neighbor comes over with his easy out to try and get the bolt out I hear " was that the old one?" Followed by "YES! it was the f***!!g old POS one! I know, I know!"   You think I would learn.  :)
Title: HALP!! Need head bolt torque, ASAP!
Post by: addautomotive on March 25, 2007, 05:48:19 am
LOL subsonic... I can relate

Guys, as much as I agree that headbolts should be replaced, you'd be surprised how many places reuse them. I certainly was when I started asking around.

The samurai engine is using oil, plus I'm going to need a clutch soon. So this engine is coming out mid-summer. I just need to limp along until then... I've dialed down the boost & fuel and will not "whip it like a red-headed stepchild" in the meantime.
Title: HALP!! Need head bolt torque, ASAP!
Post by: SMOKEYDUB on March 25, 2007, 01:54:54 pm
i paid twelve bucks for a set of stretch bolts brand new....isnt it worth the 12 bucks? i mean if yoiu have to take the head of again and change the gasket a second time because you didnt want to spend twelve wouldnt you want to murder someone?
Title: HALP!! Need head bolt torque, ASAP!
Post by: dave friday on March 25, 2007, 04:10:05 pm
here in spain they re-use strech bolts[a local mecanic told me!] they just do them up to the last torque setting!!.
regards,barry
Title: HALP!! Need head bolt torque, ASAP!
Post by: Doug on March 25, 2007, 04:21:43 pm
Hey Smoke, where did you get these $12 bolt sets?
Title: HALP!! Need head bolt torque, ASAP!
Post by: jtanguay on March 25, 2007, 06:46:45 pm
Quote from: "dave friday"
here in spain they re-use strech bolts[a local mecanic told me!] they just do them up to the last torque setting!!.
regards,barry


hehe you know your cheap when $12 is too much for insurance...  :lol:
Title: HALP!! Need head bolt torque, ASAP!
Post by: addautomotive on March 26, 2007, 09:42:20 am
Well jeeze, I was going to pull the engine in July, but now I want to run it to see how long it lasts.

I'm gonna have to call Mythbusters!

Question: Did I read correctly that the ARP headstuds are reusable?
Title: HALP!! Need head bolt torque, ASAP!
Post by: burn_your_money on March 26, 2007, 10:44:30 pm
Quote from: "addautomotive"


Question: Did I read correctly that the ARP headstuds are reusable?


yes you did, that's why they are so cool
Title: HALP!! Need head bolt torque, ASAP!
Post by: 745 turbogreasel on March 27, 2007, 01:58:01 am
ARP and Raceware are designed to be reusable.  DO NOT use standard torque proceedure with either one.
I have tried the $1 new stretch head bolts and had about 20% of em break befoer final torque.  They are easy to get out once the bolt. head breaks off as long as properly lubed
Title: Re: HALP!! Need head bolt torque, ASAP!
Post by: wolf_walker on April 29, 2010, 07:39:38 pm
So, how long did it last with used bolts?
Title: Re: HALP!! Need head bolt torque, ASAP!
Post by: superbro on May 06, 2010, 03:19:38 pm
Dude i know head bolts are like $16 at O'rielly. While we are on subject whats the final torque on ARP head studs?