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Engine Specific Info and Questions => TDI Engine -General Info => Topic started by: EMPI748 on March 22, 2007, 03:44:12 pm

Title: Golf AHU imobiliser problem. Going into T25 Vanagon...
Post by: EMPI748 on March 22, 2007, 03:44:12 pm
Hi,

Hopefully someone here can give me a bit of help.  Possibly not a good question for a first post but am not sure what to do.

Am putting a 1997 golf 1.9 TDi AHU engine into a 1988 T25 Vanagon.  I have the sump etc changed over an ready to fit.  However have a bit of a problem..... :(

The key appeared to have a built in immobiliser trigger and there was a ring sensor on the ignition switch.  However due to an idiot at work the key has been sent to the scrap yard and was crushed before i found out :evil: I had originally planned on leaving the whole loom intact and taping the key to the ring so I would not have to worry about it.

However with it being lost I now need a way to get round the immobiliser.  Does anyone know how to do this?  Can i just remove something to disable it?

Cheers
Stu
Title: Golf AHU imobiliser problem. Going into T25 Vanagon...
Post by: vwmike on March 25, 2007, 07:37:47 pm
You should  be able to get around the immobilizer by switching to the North American software. We had the MSA 15.5 management on the AHU engines but with no immobilizer.
Title: Golf AHU imobiliser problem. Going into T25 Vanagon...
Post by: Slave2School on March 26, 2007, 03:10:11 pm
Yes Get the ECU reprogrammed for some extra power and have the immo deleted at the same time :D
Title: Golf AHU imobiliser problem. Going into T25 Vanagon...
Post by: EMPI748 on April 03, 2007, 02:47:19 pm
Thanks for the replies...

Had a look at getting it remapped and the only places I found wanted more than double what the engine cost  :shock:

Any ideas?
Title: Golf AHU imobiliser problem. Going into T25 Vanagon...
Post by: jtanguay on April 03, 2007, 03:58:27 pm
hehe you guys make it sound so easy to disable the immobilizer... hmmm is it that easy to steal a newer v dub?   :lol:
Title: Golf AHU imobiliser problem. Going into T25 Vanagon...
Post by: vwmike on April 05, 2007, 03:38:14 pm
Quote from: jtanguay
hehe you guys make it sound so easy to disable the immobilizer... hmmm is it that easy to steal a newer v dub?   :lol:


You don't want to know.

And I could help out with the immobilizer delete....the distance being the major stumbling block.
Title: Golf AHU imobiliser problem. Going into T25 Vanagon...
Post by: HirMiller on August 01, 2007, 12:00:47 pm
Hello, I am fitting a 1Z to my t25/t3 and have the identical problem, NO KEY! did you find a solution?

Cheers

Jason
Title: Golf AHU imobiliser problem. Going into T25 Vanagon...
Post by: MikkiJayne on August 07, 2007, 12:03:32 pm
Hmm plenty of people have hinted they can do this, but so far no-one in the UK actually has. Or at least they haven't posted it here if they did!

It seems pretty common in the US, but I haven't found anyone here who can do the OBDI ECUs - only OBDII in later cars. I think because OBDII can be remapped / reprogrammed online, whereas OBDI needs the EPROM re-written and is therefore much harder.

The only solution I found was to find another donor which did have the key, and get the key, immo box and ECU complete. Either that or post your ECU to Rocketchip...

Sorry I can't help any more than this.

Mikki x
Title: Golf AHU imobiliser problem. Going into T25 Vanagon...
Post by: sidelights on August 11, 2007, 05:06:59 am
Hi,
I have used this guy for reprogramming diesel ecu's twice and he is the best I've used so far.
Tamar Electronics
Unit 7 Stowford Business Park
Filham Moor
Ivybridge
Devon
PL21 0BE
01752 894519

Bren
Title: Golf AHU imobiliser problem. Going into T25 Vanagon...
Post by: HirMiller on August 14, 2007, 09:56:09 am
I tried Tamar Electronics but they can't remove the Immobiliser, Need to keep searching I guess.
Title: Golf AHU imobiliser problem. Going into T25 Vanagon...
Post by: sidelights on August 14, 2007, 12:47:33 pm
How about this guy?

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/KWP2000-KILLED-YOUR-ECU-DEAD-Bad-flash-repair-service_W0QQitemZ150150001911QQihZ005QQcategoryZ72205QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
Title: Golf AHU imobiliser problem. Going into T25 Vanagon...
Post by: HirMiller on August 14, 2007, 02:01:30 pm
Cool, I will try him tomorrow.

Cheers

Jason
Title: Golf AHU imobiliser problem. Going into T25 Vanagon...
Post by: MikkiJayne on August 17, 2007, 09:13:21 am
Any luck?
Title: Golf AHU imobiliser problem. Going into T25 Vanagon...
Post by: HirMiller on August 26, 2007, 02:15:03 pm
Hi, been away.

£135 plus P&P, seems reasonable? I am also down another track which I will post on the forum today.

I was told an older ecu will work because they don't have immobiliser prior to 1994 (europe).
Title: Golf AHU imobiliser problem. Going into T25 Vanagon...
Post by: t3-umbau.de on January 08, 2008, 01:53:33 pm
Hi,

we can disable the Immo of the MSA15 (ecu in metal housing, not the old one in black plastic housing), EDC15, EDC16 ecu and we also can read out the secret key code of the immo-boxes (Audi, Seat, Skoda, VW Golf, VW T4, and so on)

For more questions, please write me an email or PN.

Max

PS: an older ecu won't work correctly with the AHU engine (missing external altitude sensor)!