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Title: Crap, I'm screwed
Post by: jimfoo on March 04, 2007, 05:11:28 pm
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As you may or may not remember, I was putting a VNT 15 on my AAZ in my Land Rover. Guess when I bought it, I didn't think about it hanging down further. The exhaust sits right in the middle of my starter. :evil:  I would still like to put a variable nozzle turbo on it. What, if any, are my options? I assume some of the other ones are separate from the manifold. I want fast spooling as opposed to higher boost as I drive off road a lot and throttle response is very important. BTW if anyone needs a VNT 15 let me know. I paid $250 for it. Oh, I modified the actuator to work off boost, but it should be able to be changed back.
Title: Crap, I'm screwed
Post by: Black Smokin' Diesel on March 04, 2007, 05:28:49 pm
Could use a thick spacer on the exhaust manifold so it clears the starter?
Title: Crap, I'm screwed
Post by: SMOKEYDUB on March 04, 2007, 05:31:47 pm
i am with that idea and just heat sheild the crap out of the starter.
Title: Crap, I'm screwed
Post by: scopefrfd on March 04, 2007, 05:32:02 pm
try flipping the exhaust manifold..you may have to clearance the tabs a little and clock the turbo..but it should work
Title: Crap, I'm screwed
Post by: jtanguay on March 04, 2007, 05:32:12 pm
Quote from: "Black Smokin' Diesel"
Could use a thick spacer on the exhaust manifold so it clears the starter?


thats an awesome idea!!!
Title: vnt
Post by: jimfoo on March 04, 2007, 05:33:27 pm
Well, it would have to be close to 3-4". The thought crossed my mind. It could be a little thinner if I angled it, but it still would be a bit of work.
Title: Crap, I'm screwed
Post by: itzdshtz on March 04, 2007, 05:33:31 pm
Do you have room in the Landrover to mount the manifold upside down and rotate the turbo cartridge so that your oil drain points down again?
Title: vnt
Post by: jimfoo on March 04, 2007, 05:36:24 pm
No, the turbo hits the intake.
Title: Crap, I'm screwed
Post by: itzdshtz on March 04, 2007, 05:37:39 pm
Wow, 4 answers within 4 minutes! I see Scopefrfd had the same thought.
Title: Crap, I'm screwed
Post by: jimfoo on March 04, 2007, 05:41:12 pm
Does the vnt 17 or whatever it is called, have the same configuration?
Title: Crap, I'm screwed
Post by: itzdshtz on March 04, 2007, 05:41:43 pm
Can you modify a golf diesel starter and mount it on the opposite side of where your starter fits now? It seems to have a cover on it.
Title: Crap, I'm screwed
Post by: jimfoo on March 04, 2007, 05:43:56 pm
Nope. I had to have a custom adapter made to fit the Rover tranny, and that is the only place the starter would fit. I do appreciate all the ideas though.
Title: VNT
Post by: jimfoo on March 04, 2007, 06:08:24 pm
Didn't see any there, and I don't do german very well, but it gave me the idea to search the UK. There might be some possibilities there. Thanks.
Title: Crap, I'm screwed
Post by: scopefrfd on March 04, 2007, 06:20:39 pm
Shipping from the UK will kill you....the VNT 17, the early versions had seperate turbo housings, they're kinda pricey but very nice.  I still think you're best bet is to flip the manifold and buy a turbo flange that are sold for guys making they're own turbo log-type manifolds.  I think techtonics sells the flanges...and I believe they're 1/2" thick...may be enough to get by the intake.  Also, I think a 1z intake has a very small profile width wise.
Title: flange
Post by: jimfoo on March 04, 2007, 06:34:16 pm
Is ther a web site? All I can find are exhaust systems, but no flanges
Title: vnt
Post by: jimfoo on March 04, 2007, 07:04:07 pm
How is spooling between the different sizes of variable vanes? Like I said, I do want fast spooling, so what is too big? I had a k14 on it, so if you can use it for comparison, that would help. Thanks
Title: Crap, I'm screwed
Post by: scopefrfd on March 04, 2007, 09:34:17 pm
TT sells the flange for $50, might find it cheaper somewhere else and it's 1/2" thick

http://www.techtonicstuning.com/showpart.asp?partnum=251.290
Title: Crap, I'm screwed
Post by: Dr. Diesel on March 05, 2007, 02:53:37 am
poke a k03-003 on it. it was the stock turbo for late AAZ, and spools very quickly.
Title: Crap, I'm screwed
Post by: burn_your_money on March 05, 2007, 06:02:23 am
Flipping the turbo with a spacer looks like it would work, depending on your engine bay though
Are there any other starter options? IE a smaller starter
Title: turbo
Post by: jimfoo on March 05, 2007, 10:09:10 am
Quote from: burn_your_money
Flipping the turbo with a spacer looks like it would work, depending on your engine bay though
Are there any other starter options? IE a smaller starter

I don't think any other starter would help as it would have to be a hell of a lot smaller. Maybe flipping it with a spacer would work. Then I started thinking that maybe a homemade intake would help as it would be easier than making something for the exhaust. Too bad I screwed up my back at work today as I can't even stand up straight. Guess it will have to wait. Flipping it would work better for the exhaust than the k14. I had to make a really tight bend for it to fit, and even then it was close to the starter, the firewall, the wiring harness and the fuel and brake lines. Plus access to the flange bolts would be way easier.
Title: solution
Post by: jimfoo on March 06, 2007, 09:13:16 pm
Well my solution to the problem is that I found a GT1749V on ebay for $250 plus shipping with only 500 km. I will have to adapt it to my old manifold, but now I should be able to put it where ever I want. It was off a Nissan. There is another left, but only 2 hours to buy if anyone is interested.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWA%3AIT&viewitem=&item=8074236127&rd=1,1