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Engine Specific Info and Questions => Non VW Group Diesel => Topic started by: Seafarer12 on January 11, 2007, 05:54:42 pm
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Been contemplating engine swaps when my 2.8 bites the dust. I was talking to a guy that refered me to this site and said you can stoke a 1.6 td up to 90 to 100 hp pretty easy. My truck was 110 new so there wouldnt be much power difference. I am just wondering if anyone has done a swap like this or has seen one. My main concern would be mating the engine to my tranny.
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I'm not sure if it's been done into a Chev, but I know Samurai's get the swap a lot. 90 and 100 are quite easy to achieve. The problem would be the ratios in the Chev compared to the diesel ratios.
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I wouldnt be too worried about the ratios. My engine has about the same rpm range as a 1.6. It runs I would guess between 1500 to 3500 most of the time. I emailed the samurai guys and they didnt have any plans or offer any info on a chevy swap.
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Use the Sammy trans too, you won't have the oomph to break it.
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if he is gonna do that he may as well use the toyota transmission, way stronger
sold here (http://www.acmeadapters.com/index.php?sound=Y)
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The T-5 in my truck now will handle any power that VW can make.
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The T-5 in my truck now will handle any power that VW can make.
but there is an adapter for the toyota transmission, I dont know of one for the T-5
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i always thought that a 4b cummins in an s 10 would be a nice setup......
a 1.6td??
it would be ok,,but for alot more torque,you should do a m-tdi
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sounds like a project, the stock t-5 will take all a td can push, where will you get an adapter plate ?? havent seen one for a t-5 yet, dose your bellhousing seperate, also you don' t say the year if it is fuel injected or not.. but that is some of the things I think of good luck
Craig
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A 4bt cummins is too big and heavy for the s-10. I would save that for a half ton. I have been looking around the site some and have read a lot about the tdi-m. I need to do a little more research about them. I know they are basicly a tdi with a mechanical pump but thats about it. I need to find out how you go about building one. One question I have, do the tdi's have the same bellhousing as the 1.6td's or are they different. I though a tdi would be a sweet swap till I learned all the electronics you have to get from the car to make them work. My truck is an 85 so there wont be any difficulties with the swap on the trucks end. I guess I could look into finding a 2wd tranny out of a Toyota. I just would have liked to have kept the T-5. No crossmember issues, no driveshaft issues, no speedo issues, no shifter issues.
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I am putting a 1.6 in a 2wd toyota pickup. If its underpowered but otherwise a good swap, I might step up to a TDI-M. Most of the work will have been done
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Any good machinist's shop can make an adapter plate; you don't have to buy them from a company pre-made.
I believe there's a member of the forums who had a special plate made up to put a 1.9TD in an old Land Rover, which I doubt is a readily available plate.
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I saw a guy post on here a while back about making an adapter plate for a 60 degree chevy bolt patten. I messeged him but he hasnt replied. I figured it wouldnt be all that hard. You would have to make a plate, flywheel spacer(maybe, depending on the input shaft) The only thing that might be problematic would be the clutch setup. I would just have to get an engine to see how it was all setup to figure out if it was worth the trouble.
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Too much work. Just pick up an Isuzu 2.2. The mounts are available from GM. Matter of fact, all the incidentals are available from GM as the s10 came with the diesel as an option to 1987.
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Any good machinist's shop can make an adapter plate; you don't have to buy them from a company pre-made.
I believe there's a member of the forums who had a special plate made up to put a 1.9TD in an old Land Rover, which I doubt is a readily available plate.
I designed it and had someone make it. Not very readily available as I have the only one as far as I know.
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Any good machinist's shop can make an adapter plate; you don't have to buy them from a company pre-made.
I believe there's a member of the forums who had a special plate made up to put a 1.9TD in an old Land Rover, which I doubt is a readily available plate.
I designed it and had someone make it. Not very readily available as I have the only one as far as I know.
Sounds like a business oportunity :) I envy you guys with skills, garages and the guts to do these conversions.
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Might be except 2.5" thick 18"x18" aluminum is pretty f-ing expensive. Luckily mine was almost free.
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I vaguely remember (a LOT of years ago, maybe mid to late 70's??) an article in "hot rod" magazine that talked about a kit that was available at the time to put a volks engine in a Vega. The early engine was a real problem in these cars, they were pushing the volks engine as a solution. REALLY wish I still had the mag..........
The kit would look after hooking the volks engine to a GM driveline. All but the earliest Vega/Astres had the standard GM trans mount, usually a saginaw 4 speed, occasionally the aluminum 5 speed. Had one I put a 3.8 Buick in a lot of years ago............ had the bad engine, only the last ones came with the "iron duke" 2.5l engine.
love to hook a 1.9 or mtdi to a GM rwd trans, think small blazer, S10, maybe the 82 firebird I've got sitting in the back yard. Currently has a 400 smallblock with the same saginaw trans that came in the vega.......
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Too much work. Just pick up an Isuzu 2.2. The mounts are available from GM. Matter of fact, all the incidentals are available from GM as the s10 came with the diesel as an option to 1987.
Yes, the 2.2 Isuzu was available for a couple of years in the S10. We had one (an '84). I've only ever seen one other one since then. It really was a fantastic little truck. Dead slow, but the economy was always in the mid 30s-- loaded or highway, it didn't seem to matter. The Isuzu was a good little engine, but the parts prices got steep.
If you can, I'd go for the 2.2TD out of a Trooper or P'up. It should be a much easier conversion, since the factory already did it.