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Engine Specific Info and Questions => IDI Engine => Topic started by: JetPo on October 25, 2006, 10:31:05 am

Title: 150 Hp !?!?
Post by: JetPo on October 25, 2006, 10:31:05 am
I have a 1992 Volkswagen Jetta with a 1.6 TD engine. I wanted to know if its possible to reach 150 hp with this engine???

Thanks
Alex
Title: 150 Hp !?!?
Post by: jtanguay on October 25, 2006, 10:51:13 am
let me take the first crack at this one.

YES.

if you have $$$ then it will be no problem. simple mods will get you up to 100 hp quite easily.
Title: 150 Hp !?!?
Post by: JetPo on October 25, 2006, 10:54:49 am
when you say $$$. How much approx. ???
Title: 150 Hp !?!?
Post by: myke_w on October 25, 2006, 11:00:45 am
Quote from: jtanguay
let me take the first crack at this one.

YES.

if you have $$$ then it will be no problem. simple mods will get you up to 100 hp quite easily.


Could you spell out the "simple mods".. we really ought to get a sticky going on this topic as often as it comes up..
Title: 150 Hp !?!?
Post by: JetPo on October 25, 2006, 11:02:02 am
Could you spell out the "simple mods".. we really ought to get a sticky going on this topic as often as it comes up..[/quote]

Totally Right  :D
Title: 150 Hp !?!?
Post by: malone on October 25, 2006, 12:27:45 pm
I believe 'simple mods' is dissected in the FAQ/Technical forum. See the "How to make your....faster" threads.

To answer the topic title, yes 150hp is possible. I've exceeded both 150bhp and 150whp smoke-free with a 1.6TD, with lots left (needed an intercooler and more fuel). A ported 1.9TD head was used to help with airflow.. an unmodified 1.6TD head might be a squeeze for 150hp.
Title: 150 Hp !?!?
Post by: Audi80 on October 26, 2006, 02:04:44 am
Bigger pump, 10mm at least, bigger turbo, good intercooler and 2,5" exhaust is all you need for 150hp.
Title: 150 Hp !?!?
Post by: HP on October 26, 2006, 01:52:25 pm
Quote from: Audi80
Bigger pump, 10mm at least, bigger turbo, good intercooler and 2,5" exhaust is all you need for 150hp.

K24 or Garrett T3 should be OK to the task, shouldn't they?
Title: 150 Hp !?!?
Post by: Audi80 on October 26, 2006, 02:02:05 pm
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K24 or Garrett T3 should be OK to the task, shouldn't they?


It is possible, but you are pushing it to limits. Not very good.
Title: 150 Hp !?!?
Post by: hillfolk'r on October 26, 2006, 04:20:52 pm
man i dunno,that will be pretty tweaked
my tdi-m runs low 14 1/4 mile times,and i dont think IT has 150hp
maybe close,,but the torque is the real thriller
my buddie therabbittree thinks i have like 225 ft pounds maybe
i really dont know
but i know it likes to eat gearboxes
Title: 150 Hp !?!?
Post by: entuzijast on October 27, 2006, 02:00:25 am
Well he asked about HP, he didn't ask about durability...One guy here drowe, I think high 14 in 1/4 mile, with his 1.6 TD rabbit, but he granaded two engines....
Title: 150 Hp !?!?
Post by: hillfolk'r on October 28, 2006, 04:02:33 pm
yea a tdi will do that day in day out.....without blowing up
the big limit on the idi engines is all that heat is trapped in the head,its a killer on the prechambers,they will crack+stuff eventually
Title: 150 Hp !?!?
Post by: bustedfoxwagen on October 29, 2006, 07:20:25 am
Quote from: hillfolk'r
yea a tdi will do that day in day out.....without blowing up
the big limit on the idi engines is all that heat is trapped in the head,its a killer on the prechambers,they will crack+stuff eventually


ok i have a 1.6td and i have a .48 t3 turbo a want slap up there, i would probably need a better flowing head? like off a 1.9 tdi? what my stock head and i have heard run a 8v gasser intake manifold? i don't know much about diesels
Title: 150 Hp !?!?
Post by: RabbitJockey on October 29, 2006, 09:36:16 am
i would go the route that you are basically talking about, put the 1.9 head on a 1.6 block, then use a gasser turbo exhaust manifold with your turbo, which will allow enough room to use the gasser intake manifold, i think this would provide some good flow, not as good as the manifolds 935 racer is baking up right now, but definetly a big step above stock, and actually this is the setup i am thinking about running, accept probably not a 1.9 head, i'll just send my 1.6 head in and get the *** ported out of it haha.  but yeah good luck with what ever you do
Title: 150 Hp !?!?
Post by: entuzijast on October 29, 2006, 10:49:57 am
It seems that 1.9 head is the way to go, but I don't recall that anyone here has posted compression test...I believe that cold start would be a big issue....