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Engine Specific Info and Questions => IDI Engine => Topic started by: Spulen81 on October 10, 2006, 06:19:55 pm

Title: Where to find downpipe flanges?
Post by: Spulen81 on October 10, 2006, 06:19:55 pm

I'm putting at TD Garrett turbo on my TDI and need to make a downpipe.  Are there square downpipe flanges available anywhere?  Finding one already made would save me a ton of time.

Title: Where to find downpipe flanges?
Post by: saurkraut on October 10, 2006, 06:29:41 pm

Get a gasket for the flange you want and go to a couple machine shops in your immediate area.  Some may be reasonable on price.

Title: Where to find downpipe flanges?
Post by: Spulen81 on October 10, 2006, 07:37:21 pm

That is true.  I was hopeing somebody already made these.

Title: Where to find downpipe flanges?
Post by: veeman on October 10, 2006, 11:23:34 pm

Yep... These are readily available.  I got mine from an ATP dealer near me.

http://www.atpturbo.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=tp&Product_Code=ATP-FLS-018&Category_Code=BCS

Should be part no. ATP-FLS-018, but double check that it matches your turbo.

I looked for a guy locally to make me one, but he said it'd be well over $100 by the time he tooled up and did it.  Whoa.  I'll take the $20 pre-cut flange.

Title: Where to find downpipe flanges?
Post by: Spulen81 on October 11, 2006, 12:36:33 am

Mine has a square 4 bolt pattern on the turbine housing.    Its a T3 but I think the KKK turbo has the same exhaust pattern.  I wonder if any of the square ones they have online would fit?

Title: Where to find downpipe flanges?
Post by: veeman on October 11, 2006, 12:58:07 am

You could always try these guys...

http://www.034motorsport.com/product_info.php?products_id=325

I know the owners of the company... good guys, mostly into high-powered Audi 5 cyl engines, but they should have the flanges you're looking for.  If the one above isn't the right type, do a search for "flange" on that site and see what else they stock.

Do you have a stock downpipe from that turbo that you could use / measure the flange off of?

Title: Where to find downpipe flanges?
Post by: 935racer on October 11, 2006, 02:27:51 am

I sell them for $15CAd a piece.

Title: Where to find downpipe flanges?
Post by: HarryMann on October 10, 2006, 06:00:34 pm

Can I butt in here please? Along the same lines, sortof...

Manifold to turbo joints...

To gasket or not, not that I can get one anyway!

I have been surface flatting both manifold face and turbo face to quite a high accuracy, as no gasket there originally, and I've tried as best to match the port sections, quite amazed how much these are out. (Garrett T2, joint that the 4 high strength flanged cap screws go through)

Do most just fit these up metal to metal to keep heat transfer even and a simple joint.
Is a thin smear of exhaust cement OK
Or is a gasket recommended and if so, which style, I don't like some I've seen at all.
Think those screws torque up to about 45 ft-lbs?

Thanks


PS. I'd get a flange laser cut from 3/8" minimim steel blanks, make a good template but allow the port to be fractionally undersize fro matching up later.

Title: Where to find downpipe flanges?
Post by: Spulen81 on October 11, 2006, 05:02:03 am

You have email.  That will difinetly make things easier.

Title: Where to find downpipe flanges?
Post by: macsdub on October 11, 2006, 09:06:17 pm

either that,or hack the orig flange from the downpipe to weld on a custom d/p

ive dont that a few times in a  pinch
and they are nice+thick

Title: Where to find downpipe flanges?
Post by: Spulen81 on October 12, 2006, 11:53:19 am

I thought about that but is it difficult to weld to the cast iron?

Title: Where to find downpipe flanges?
Post by: 935racer on October 12, 2006, 12:42:49 pm

Welding cast iron is a little more difficult, and it is even harder if you are trying to get to hold under heat and vibration, like a downpipe.

Title: Where to find downpipe flanges?
Post by: HarryMann on October 12, 2006, 06:00:36 pm

G. Cast Iron - thin or thick
          Weld in the flat position if possible. Out of position will require additional practice. Use JOF neutral flame. Use proper rod and high heat flux. Must preheat metal. Gring crack out. Heat rod and stick in flux. Heat metal and apply rod to molten metal. Penetration of welding rod is controlled by the amount of heat on molten puddle. (longer heating in molten puddle will give more rod penetration). Must postheat all of cast 4-600 degrees and let cool slowly. (Put sand, lime, etc., if possible. If cast rod is used you can drill, tap, or gring weld area.

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