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Engine Specific Info and Questions => IDI Engine => Topic started by: envy on April 25, 2006, 10:57:30 am
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Hey guys,
Iµ newbe here, and havn't read all forum!
My quastion:
how to make it run faster without risk of broken engine??
Engine code is AAZ!
So? What to do??
How big plnjer I need?
May be I need intercooler?
Other injectors?
I'll be pleased for help!!! 8)
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Welcome to the club. I suggest taking the time to read this forum more thoroughly to learn more about IDI / TD performance. There's plenty of juicy information here!
Definitely get an intercooler. What type of turbo do you have? i.e. T2, K03, K14? If you have a really small turbo like the K03 then upgrading to a K24 or T3 from a MK2 1.6TD (engine code CY, MF, and maybe another) will be more worthwhile. Get a 10mm or 11mm plunger, GTD nozzles, and do a governor mod. There are small details like pump timing advance etc. that you will find in this forum. Your car will be much quicker then.
Here's the thread for you to start reading (cheap mods):
http://vwdiesel.net/phpBB/viewtopic.php?t=579
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Thanx Malone ;)
Acctually I havn't looked for turbo type... :oops: because Guru's in my country Latvia say that this engine is very weaka and broke very fast... :cry:
But when I found this forum - become very happy!
By the way - our club is http://www.vwmotion.lv! welcome! but I doubt you wiil understand, because it is in Latvian :P Latvia is small country in East-Europe ;)
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Guru's in my country Latvia say that this engine is very weaka and broke very fast...
That reminds me; did you get a crank fix? There's quite a few threads discussing the crank sprocket issue on AAZs.. it's necessary preventative maintenance. Other than that AAZs don't seem easy to break - they can last a long time with care.
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Get a 10mm or 11mm plunger
A bit offtopic, but I just had enuff of being the only one here who doesn't know wot is a g*dd*mn plunger!! :oops: :evil: :lol:
Can someone explain that to me?!
10mm, 11mm, 12mm... is that 10mm long, 10mm thick?! :? Is that a part from the IP?! What's its functionality?!
I want to know everything :lol:
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That reminds me; did you get a crank fix? There's quite a few threads discussing the crank sprocket issue on AAZs.. it's necessary preventative maintenance. Other than that AAZs don't seem easy to break - they can last a long time with care.
could you explain what is crank?? my technical english is pure...
But I havn't done anything yet, except games with fuel pump screw!
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Get a 10mm or 11mm plunger
A bit offtopic, but I just had enuff of being the only one here who doesn't know wot is a g*dd*mn punger!! :oops: :evil: :lol:
Can someone explain that to me?!
10mm, 11mm, 12mm... is that 10mm long, 10mm thick?! :? Is that a part from the IP?! What's its functionality?!
I want to know everything :lol:
it is the device in fuel pump which do the rest of work of fuel pumping to injectors! Sorry for english!
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one more quastion before studying forum!
If i have VW GOLF GTD, don† I have GTD nozles?? :?
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could you explain what is crank?? my technical english is pure...
the crank is at the bottom of the engine. it is the thick metal shaft that transfers the power from the pistons to the transmission. the pulley on the belt side of the crank is often updated and the crank modified on AAZ motors as preventative maintenance. the TDIs don't have this problem.
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If you still have dificulties to understand, here is a pic of a crankshaft or simply crank:
(http://www.caticxm.com/catic-onway/uploadimg/CRANKSHAFT-4D31-.jpg)
On this board, when people say GTD nozzles, they mean tha 1.6TD RA/SB nozzles. They don't have these engines neither the actual GTD versions (just "regular" TD's) on North America, so they call them GTD nozzles.
I think that's it. :)
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one more quastion before studying forum!
If i have VW GOLF GTD, don† I have GTD nozles?? :?
My mistake, I assumed that you wanted your car to become "GTD." I did not know MK3 GTDs were made :oops:. Also, MK2 GTDs have intercoolers from the factory.. yet your MK3 does not have one?
The additional fuel requires additional boost & therefore intercooling would seem wise.
You could have GTD injectors.. I wonder if there's a part # for it?
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I understood, but thank's for pic ;)
Mk3 GTD was built with GT body and interior, thats all, engine - the same AAZ, without cooler!
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could you give the link to preventative jobs of crank???
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MK2 GTDs have intercoolers from the factory.. yet your MK3 does not have one?
Well, that's not entirely true, malone. In fact, mine is a GTD, yet it doesn't have an IC. :)
I'm aware the GTD's were only sold in Europe, thus, a little confusion of yours. GTD is only the version of the car, as it's commercially available. There are GL TD's, CL TD's, and maybe others. So, the GTD is just the TD in a GTI outfit.
JR and RA/SB (the latter with IC) engines for 1.6TD's, among them, some versions are named as GTD's for having things like alloy wheels and other equipment features similar to the GTI.
Then there is the 1.6TD Katalysator or Eco as you know it in NA. That's has its 1V engine only and relatively little equipment. Not GTD, of course. I realize this is a comon version overthere, but not here in Europe.
As for Mk3's, there's only one 1.9TD: the AAZ. Some are named as GTD's for the same reasons as the Mk2's, and the other's, simply TD's. But the engine is all the same and no IC on Mk3's IDI.
IC = intercooler, for envy :wink:
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perfect HP ;)
and I know what's IC :P
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Envy - have a read through this recent thread in the "Troubleshooting" section:
http://www.vwdiesel.net/phpBB/viewtopic.php?t=3614&start=0
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Now I've workod with my pump! And golf is getting faster! What I get! I undersood that new cluch is necessary :) So now I think abou the intercooler! What could you tell! Can I put one from TDI or its better to find one from Mk2 GTD???
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when do you know the injectors/nozles are getting to little when feuling up??????? Can you measure this on a IDI, how do can you do this? (not enginespecifik please)
Greetz, Benjamin
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when do you know the injectors/nozles are getting to little when feuling up??????? Can you measure this on a IDI, how do can you do this? (not enginespecifik please)
Someone who can get me this exlained? :roll:
tnx
Greetz, Benjamin
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yes, i got a EGT meter, but the EGT goes up when the feul goes up, when there is more air, the egt's lower.
But how can i know that the injectors are to little? i'm busy with my 1.9td (non vw) i got 11mm plunjer, planning governermod, gt20v turbo, ... so how do i know my injectors are to little?
ore is there a link between EGT and to little injectors?
Greetz, Benjamin
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My understanding is, small (overfueled) injectors would show high egt's because though, they're shooting more fuel, it's occuring with a longer duration to do so and with more timing advance to compensate for this. Bigger injectors can deliver the demanded quantity of fuel in a shorter, better timed event, helping to keep egt's down as long as there is enough air in there as well.
Alain
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Hi again!
So nobody has answered on my quastion about IC! :roll:
Yesterday I bought GTD nozzles and today they will be fitted! :D But the mech told me that 150bar are necessary, in forum I read smth about 155 and 180 bar? how is it??? :dontknow:
I and more! Mech also told me that I have different turbo than others AAZ has, could someone posr pics of turbo's available on AAZ!
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Where are you from ?
If you have an AAZ, i think your in us or canada. This engine already have a turbo.
If you speak french, go in the "Moteur a injection indirecte" in the french section of this forum.
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about the nozzle's, i know you can adjust the pressure if you place plates under the spring, so you can make higher pressure, but i though, the pump got his limits :!:
Greetz, Benjamin
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Where are you from ?
If you have an AAZ, i think your in us or canada. This engine already have a turbo.
If you speak french, go in the "Moteur a injection indirecte" in the french section of this forum.
:D I am from Latvia, near the Baltic see! ;)
of course I have turbo, but it is different from that my friends have! Also my car is faster then theirs! ;)
Therefore I want to now, what turbo is it and how to higher pressure! :)
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There were 4 turbos available for the 1.9td AAZ engine code. The ko3, the garrett t2 and pretty much the same one an airesearch t2, and the kkk k14. All of them are way to small for a 1.9 engine, the t2's and the k14, would be better suited for a 1000-1500cc engine, the ko3 is even smaller and would be good for something like a snowmobile :lol: Moral of the story is get a turbo from a 1.6td a garrett t3 or a kkk k24 than you can make some decent boost without creating excessive EGT's and exhaust backpressure.
Also 155 -165 bar seems to work pretty good for tuned td's.
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I agree, but please go to your profile and set your location !
It's an inportant information for us, and a good things if u need help.
Some one near you can help you.
Like if your said your engine consump oil, I will say take the car to my home and I will check it. :roll: I'm from canada, and soposed to be, your from france ....
There whant I have to say :)
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Suposed to be a K14 or a T2 from your engine year.
Boot can boost 1 bar (14.7psi) without problem. Above that you can with an intercooler.
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So nozzles are fitted :D
There is much more smoke :D But I'm not sure that there is pretty much difference :roll:
Maybe near the red line car is faster :twisted:
And one more quastion today... How can I know, what turbo is it?? Is it written anywhere on it???
So, next step I'll do - throw out the catalysor! 8)
I got the IC from FIAT TEMPRA, now I have to think about fitting it! :)
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I got the IC from FIAT TEMPRA, now I have to think about fitting it!
IF this is the same as the Delta one, it will crack on HIGH boost becouse of the plastik caps.
Greetz, Benjamin
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So nozzles are fitted :D
There is much more smoke :D But I'm not sure that there is pretty much difference :roll:
Maybe near the red line car is faster :twisted:
That's a strange result. Other threads have suggested that GTD injectors actually reduce the smoke, even if they don't do much to improve power.
You may need to retard your timing slightly, to account for the greater volume of fuel being injected in the same "time window" as your old injectors.
Also, you may need to crank down the main fuel screw, too, if you've turned it up already.
There is actually a fair amount of contradictory information on this forum about the GTD injectors. I haven't seen much in the way of objective measurement of the GTD-injector-swap results, just a lot of "butt dyno" comments. I'm still on the fence, but would love to be convinced.
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Sveicieni no Kanadas! :) Ja ir kadi jautajumi, nebaidies man prasit, itseviški ja dažreiz nesaproti anglu vardus. Varu palidzet ar teknisko valodu... var jau atrast daudz informaciju šeit, bet jamak meklet.
Cheers,
Andris
p.s. Pats nopirku savu pirmo Vento ar AAZ dizeli. Ja gribi, varu nofotografet lai vari salidzinat turbo. Jau esmu iesacis speleties ar 'modding', bet pa priekšu ar riteniem, riepam, atsperem, u.t.t. Novelu labu laimi ar interkuleri... man jau bijis prata kopš nopirku savejo. ;) Vai nevareji atrast G60 interkuleri? Domaju, ka deret labak... 8)
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heh...
Sveiks! :)
Nu principaa mana mashiiniite vizuaali mani jau apmierina ;)
p.s. Riepas, atsperes, amortizatori - DONE! :D
Te ir kaada bilde:
(http://photos.fotki.lv/photos/7/W0000734/000073385/000007338479_%23_2_%23_cernagins.jpg)
(http://photos.fotki.lv/photos/7/W0000735/000073405/000007340420_%23_2_%23_cernagins.jpg)
(http://photos.fotki.lv/photos/7/W0000735/000073406/000007340574_%23_2_%23_cernagins.jpg)
(http://photos.fotki.lv/photos/7/W0000735/000073408/000007340744_%23_2_%23_cernagins.jpg)
(http://photos.fotki.lv/photos/7/W0000735/000073408/000007340766_%23_2_%23_cernagins.jpg)
Ko esmu jau paspeejis ar motoru???
Ir GTD sidzinaataaji, ir degvielas padeve max, cik vareeju, ir BOOST meeriitaajs, taa kaa tagad celshu spiedienu, shodien buus 1.6 TD suuknja BOOST PIN :D
Taalaak seko interkuulers un taisnaa truba, jo man veel joproajaam ir katalizators :oops: par G60 kuuleri.... man liekas, ka tas ir par mazu :P
par turbo zinu tikai to, ka ir KKK, un Braalja GOLFam turbiina ir mazaaka! ;)
domaaju, ka tev buus interesanti ;) www.vwmotion.lv :twisted:
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So!
I have done everything I wanted! And my GTD is sold!
I have bought new toy Mk4 TDI PD engine 115hp and 285 Nm! :)
so last drag pics!
2.0 GTI
(http://photos.fotki.lv/photos/8/W0000845/000084486/000008448511_%23_2_%23_cernagins.jpg)
(http://photos.fotki.lv/photos/8/W0000845/000084486/000008448512_%23_2_%23_cernagins.jpg)
1.9 TDI 90Hp
(http://photos.fotki.lv/photos/8/W0000845/000084486/000008448560_%23_2_%23_cernagins.jpg)
(http://photos.fotki.lv/photos/8/W0000845/000084486/000008448561_%23_2_%23_cernagins.jpg)
(http://photos.fotki.lv/photos/8/W0000845/000084485/000008448483_%23_2_%23_cernagins.jpg)
I'm proud of fact, that my GTD will be driven by my good friend! ;)
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