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Engine Specific Info and Questions => IDI Engine => Topic started by: stewardc on April 10, 2006, 01:42:18 pm

Title: Mk 1 engine mounts
Post by: stewardc on April 10, 2006, 01:42:18 pm
Does an A1 have the A2s liquid-filled motor mount? Is it adaptable to the A1 Chassis? Does it make much difference in noise/vibration?
Title: Mk 1 engine mounts
Post by: Dr. Diesel on April 10, 2006, 02:49:43 pm
A1 and A2 mount setups are completely different and not really easily adapted either way.
Title: Mk 1 engine mounts
Post by: greggearhead on April 14, 2006, 10:22:50 am
There are some simple, well proven upgrades to stiffening the A1 mounts, but if you are looking for smoother, you might have to break new ground
Title: Mk 1 engine mounts
Post by: stewardc on April 14, 2006, 12:41:51 pm
Yes, stiffening is not a problem, the cure is called "Energy Suspension", but I was looking for less droning and vibration. I guess I'll have to sell the Caddy and buy an A2  :roll:
Title: Mk 1 engine mounts
Post by: greggearhead on April 14, 2006, 01:52:29 pm
Heh.  Not hardley, but it is an A1 and they are not Cadillacs.  

You might try a "damper" setup.  On many cars, including my old BMW, there are dampers, or shock absorbers, that help reduce the engine rocking slightly.  Looks like a steering damper, or small shock absorber.  

On autocross/drag cars I have seen cabls/chains/rods used to limit engine movement, from the front crossmember to an upper front bolt on the trans usually.  No reason you couldn't mount a damper in a similar location.

Also, the big rubber washers that sandwitch the side mounts need to be there - I have seen them taken out a LOT, and it really makes the engine move more, which wears the front and rear engine "mounts" much more quickly and cause more harshness, IMO.  

FYI - those rubber washers come in 3 different thicknesses, if you want to play with mounting stiffness...
Title: Mk 1 engine mounts
Post by: mortskeg on April 14, 2006, 04:59:43 pm
Quote from: "stewardc"
...I was looking for less droning and vibration.
stewardc- I'm guessing that your main complaint is with vibration at idle?  Just curious as to know (if you do) how many mm of lift your IP is set at and the idle rpm.  These can make a difference for sure.

Hope this helps.
Title: Mk 1 engine mounts
Post by: hillfolk'r on April 14, 2006, 05:06:52 pm
im looking to limit engine movement,,i was figuring a "torque arm" that went from the left side of head,back to firewall,,of course welding will be involved,,,,,watch the valve cover rock,just revvin it up,,someday ill engineer one up,,,,,
Title: Mk 1 engine mounts
Post by: stewardc on April 14, 2006, 05:09:18 pm
Quote from: "mortskeg"
Quote from: "stewardc"
...I was looking for less droning and vibration.
stewardc- I'm guessing that your main complaint is with vibration at idle?  Just curious as to know (if you do) how many mm of lift your IP is set at and the idle rpm.  These can make a difference for sure.

Hope this helps.


Yeah, it does help. I, however, haven't done any fine tuning yet. I set it up basically and am waiting for some more breakin miles before I do anything drastic.  It is starting to smooth out and run better, and it has stopped excessive oil usage. I think it's definitely a keeper, but I just started this thread to explore possibilities.
Thanks for the assistance guys. You always come through in a pinch, except for the time I was (am) looking for a Caddy emblem  :wink:
Title: Mk 1 engine mounts
Post by: mortskeg on April 15, 2006, 12:06:44 pm
Quote from: "stewardc"
You always come through in a pinch, except for the time I was (am) looking for a Caddy emblem  :wink:
Maybe your truck just wants to be loved for what it is- a Volkswagen Pickup LX. :lol:  :D  :wink:
Title: Mk 1 engine mounts
Post by: stewardc on April 15, 2006, 01:35:42 pm
Quote from: "mortskeg"
Quote from: "stewardc"
You always come through in a pinch, except for the time I was (am) looking for a Caddy emblem  :wink:
Maybe your truck just wants to be loved for what it is- a Volkswagen Pickup LX. :lol:  :D  :wink:


Just can't get no respect  :roll: