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Title: WTB: Mk2 turbodiesel starter
Post by: Diesel_Zuk on June 17, 2014, 10:48:16 am
I'm guessing they are probably all the same, that being said, a new one is quite expensive for a college student lol. Anybody have a used one for a good price they can part with? It's for a 1991 ecodiesel, but I doubt that will make a difference. Thanks!
Title: Re: WTB: Mk2 turbodiesel starter
Post by: Toby on June 17, 2014, 03:13:37 pm
What is wrong with yours. They hardly ever fail. Mostly they need to be lubed and maybe a set of brushes. If its just the Bendix that is super easy.
Title: Re: WTB: Mk2 turbodiesel starter
Post by: ilikevwdiesel on June 17, 2014, 06:14:37 pm
pm sent
Title: Re: WTB: Mk2 turbodiesel starter
Post by: Diesel_Zuk on June 17, 2014, 06:28:54 pm
Well I was cranking it trying to get it started, had white smoke, and when I pulled the cold start, it would sputter a little bit, I kept trying, but it just wouldn't start. Then randomly, the cranking speed dropped, now it cranks extremely slow. I already tested a different battery, so I know that isn't the problem. Also, I had both batteries fully charged from the night before.
Title: Re: WTB: Mk2 turbodiesel starter
Post by: GEE-BEE on June 17, 2014, 06:50:01 pm
You will get more to the starter if you upgrade the cables #2 for positive
#4 ground

http://www.autohausaz.com/search/product.aspx?sid=equdeh55ynxecdmn42sff455&makeid=800026@VW&modelid=1283352@JETTA GL&year=1991&cid=18@Electrical %26 Vacuum&gid=4152@Starter

107.00 for rebuilt and 2 year warranity..
Title: Re: WTB: Mk2 turbodiesel starter
Post by: Smoker on June 18, 2014, 07:11:38 am
What he said.  ^

I'd check/upgrade your wiring before you spend cash on a starter.  Even if better wiring doesn't fix it, it's still... well... better.
Title: Re: WTB: Mk2 turbodiesel starter
Post by: fatmobile on June 20, 2014, 02:38:48 pm
Yeah, and advance your timing a little.
Title: Re: WTB: Mk2 turbodiesel starter
Post by: Diesel_Zuk on June 27, 2014, 08:15:28 pm
Son of a beach. I had my local shop rebuild my starter, charged my battery, did timing and everything, and guess what?????!!!!! IT STILL CRANKS SLOW!!!!!! I tried a jumper battery on it too, with very very little improvement. Where do I check next? The engine turns by hand with a ratchet good.
Title: Re: WTB: Mk2 turbodiesel starter
Post by: Diesel_Zuk on June 27, 2014, 08:17:38 pm
I should add, I didn't change the brass piece, I somehow forgot about it, until now. Is it possible that the brass piece can somehow cause slow cranking? Seems odd to me, but is it possible?
Title: Re: WTB: Mk2 turbodiesel starter
Post by: Dakotakid on June 27, 2014, 08:58:12 pm
Actually.....yes.
Title: Re: WTB: Mk2 turbodiesel starter
Post by: theman53 on June 28, 2014, 04:14:11 am
I should add, I didn't change the brass piece, I somehow forgot about it, until now. Is it possible that the brass piece can somehow cause slow cranking? Seems odd to me, but is it possible?

From what I have seen this is the #1 reason of failing starters. You HAVE to put a new bushing in every time a new/rebuilt starter goes in. I ruined a rebuilt unit in a week once because I used the old bushing.
Title: Re: WTB: Mk2 turbodiesel starter
Post by: Diesel_Zuk on June 28, 2014, 10:39:11 am
Okey doke. I wonder if my parts house has them in stock, or if I will have to order it?
Title: Re: WTB: Mk2 turbodiesel starter
Post by: ilikevwdiesel on June 28, 2014, 10:41:12 am
I have 3 good 020 starters in stock.
Title: Re: WTB: Mk2 turbodiesel starter
Post by: Diesel_Zuk on June 28, 2014, 02:41:21 pm
Threw on a mk3 tdi starter I had laying around, spun a little faster, but still not good enough, so I  ordered a bushing. Unfortunately nobody local had it, and the ones that could get it, it would be a couple weeks out, so I ordered from parts place.
Title: Re: WTB: Mk2 turbodiesel starter
Post by: libbydiesel on June 28, 2014, 06:06:42 pm
The exact same amount of current that flows through the positive cable also flows through the negative cable.  In fact, the current actually flows FROM the negative TO the positive.  Added length of cable can require one cable to be larger than the other (e.g. battery in the trunk) but if they are remotely similar in length and there is benefit to be had from increasing the size, then both should be increased the same amount. 
Title: Re: WTB: Mk2 turbodiesel starter
Post by: damac on June 29, 2014, 01:34:18 am
Threw on a mk3 tdi starter I had laying around, spun a little faster, but still not good enough, so I  ordered a bushing. Unfortunately nobody local had it, and the ones that could get it, it would be a couple weeks out, so I ordered from parts place.

These don't use the bushing right guys?  Sounds like you have a wiring/battery problem.

Those are what I use in my cars now after a member on the forum told me about them and sold me one.  Call me crazy as I never looked up specs but they have performed awesome for me.  I simply don't get slowdowns with a stock sized battery if I cranked for 10 seconds.  I never have to do that though since my cars are tuned.
Title: Re: WTB: Mk2 turbodiesel starter
Post by: Diesel_Zuk on July 02, 2014, 12:44:15 pm
The tdi manual transmission starters use a bushing. The automatics do not. I have a manual trans starter. I ordered a bushing from the stealership, just waiting for it to come in now. Can't believe nobody in Nebraska has it in stock.
Title: Re:
Post by: vanbcguy on July 02, 2014, 01:37:04 pm
Strange, my 02A starter definitely does not have a bushing. Neither the old one I returned as a core nor the new Bosch reman I got had the bushing style snout.