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Engine Specific Info and Questions => IDI Engine => Topic started by: stewardc on March 18, 2006, 03:58:15 am
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Here's one for y'all. How would I find out production figures for a 1.6 TD Caddy in 1981. A friend says they were made, though I think not.
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AFAIK not... not in Europa, not in the USA.
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this is been discussed on the tex many times, and they did make a very rare few of these.
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i'd like to see proof of that as other TD models didn't appear until 1983 AFAIK.
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The first TD was in the Golf MK1 so this is before '83, the TD-engine has never been in the caddy in europe. I don't know about amerika.
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For the VW Rabbit Pickup, ETKA only lists CR and JK diesel engine codes (which are naturally aspirated.) No engine code CY / turbo diesel.
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etka isn't always right... but i'm sure a quick search on vortex will lead to the threads.. there were a couple
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I really doubt ETKA's wrong, given it's a genuine VW of America data source. Seems to me that should be a lot more reliable than some hearsay on the 'net.
But given there still might be some naysayers on this topic, I managed to dig up yet more evidence supporting the claim that there are zero factory VW turbo-diesel pickup trucks...
In VW of America's pamphlet: "Introductory Service Training Information: The 1983 Rabbits", pages 4-5 give an overview of the Rabbit sedan models (excluding the Rabbit GTI covered in a different section), and it lists four available engine options: the 1.7 fuel injected gasser, 1.7 carburated gasser, 1.6lNA diesel, and 1.6 turbo-diesel. (The turbo-diesel is also noted as a "new option" for this model year.) The Pick up model is then overviewed on pages 6-7, but for that model there are only two engine options listed: the 1.7 liter Fuel injected Gasoline and the 1.6l naturally aspirated Diesel as engine options (turbo diesel option is not listed.)
If you need more evidence, someone needs to find a Rabbit Pickup truck owner's manual and report back here if it mentions a turbo-diesel engine option. (I checked my 1984 owner's manual which does list a turbo-diesel engine option, but it only covers the Rabbit sedan.)
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The first TD was in the Golf MK1 so this is before '83, the TD-engine has never been in the caddy in europe. I don't know about amerika.
Although you are right that it was 1983 when the 1.6lTD made its first transverse format appearance, it actually was introduced as a longitudinal engine option for the Quantum model back in 1982.
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...someone needs to find a Rabbit Pickup truck owner's manual and report back here if it mentions a turbo-diesel engine option. (I checked my 1984 owner's manual which does list a turbo-diesel engine option, but it only covers the Rabbit sedan.)
Def. not an option in '81, and I doubt that it ever existed unless it was for someone who knew someone at the westmoreland factory. :) Anyone with an 83 man?
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www.doppel-wobber.de (info on Golf only)
Golf 1 => motoren scroll down to the diesel table
CY 08.81-07.84
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www.doppel-wobber.de (info on Golf only)
Golf 1 => motoren scroll down to the diesel table
CY 08.81-07.84
08/81 i believe that for european market for sure. usually you guys are a couple years ahead of us. i wonder though, were any caddies made with TDs over there? if so, that early? i've never heard of or seen photos of one...
etka isn't always right... but i'm sure a quick search on vortex will lead to the threads.. there were a couple
:lol: don't put so much faith in the vhortex, thats how rumours like these get around!
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No pickups in Europe until 85. :) (The tooling was moved from PA in 84 I think).
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No TDs overhere either like I wrote above... I linked to doppel wobber only to show that the TD's were in a golf from '81.
No pickups in Europe until 85. :) (The tooling was moved from PA in 84 I think).
First pickups are late '84 overhere.. 9th/10th month or something like that.
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I have a factory built 83 Rabbit Turbo Diesel. It is a GL model.
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No pickups in Europe until 85. :) (The tooling was moved from PA in 84 I think).
Wow, so they never got any cool old trucks, eh? Finally, we got something good first.
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i still disagree, there are alot of people on the vortex in the mk1 forum, not the whored out mk4 forum, i recall one guy who works for vw dealers saying some guy came in with a turbo diesel caddy, and he asked him if he had done an engine swap, and the guy told him no, and that he had had the truck since new.
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unfortunately the search is down atm
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I was told by someone working close with the westmoreland factory back in the day and a pickup fan that there were TD pickups produced, only in 83 and the number was no more than 80 of them.
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and also i looked and etka shows no td for the 83 and 84 jetta, and i'm sure it's well know that they were available those years.
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I have had no problems finding all sorts of engine code "CY" (1.6lTD) parts and other documentation in ETKA for the 1983 and 1984 Jetta-Germany.