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General Information => General => Topic started by: homerj1 on December 04, 2013, 06:20:11 am
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Just wondering what you mk1 guys are running for tire pressures.
Details: mk1 jetta, 14 inch 185\70-14 Firestone Winterforce Snows
I'm currently inflated to 32 psi all around - was just thinking that it might be too much psi based on the car weight?
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i used to always run 35psi, and i've never had issues with uneven wear, i know some people run much more to get better mpg.
how much should be run in a passat wagon with 2 engines in the back?
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i used to always run 35psi, and i've never had issues with uneven wear, i know some people run much more to get better mpg.
how much should be run in a passat wagon with 2 engines in the back?
lol,
The PEI liquor store woman regaled to me yesterday, you guys were a hoot & bought lots.... and the passat looked loaded down.. :)
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sup playa
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sup playa
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lol
karl says.............
it is a snow day here in pei , Hence the robe look - Beber watch out>>>>>>>>>>>>>> selfies away.............
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please give karl a carrot from me ;D
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Tire dependent my friend, I have a set that their max psi is 45psi. So I run 45 psi. Had the tires since 2007, They are on my car right now. No weird wear, or odd slipperiness on pavement..
They were a $60/tire deal too. They shoulda wore out a LONG time ago.
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ends on how you want it to ride...
28psi is factory for the 13 and 14" stock sized vw tires..
for my 195-50 r15s i run 25.. so it has a nice ride...
so start off with that.. and go from there.. no way id run a tire at tires 'max pressure" as thats not what the car was designed for..
go get a old vw beetle.. pump them front tirs up to 35.. vs the 18 or so they supposed to be.. you will see...
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Ive had zero issue on thesr tires for 6 years in all seasons at 43-45psi.
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Run em up til one pops, and back off a few lbs?
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Eh. Most tires say 35 psi. And people run 32-35psi. I dont ser the concern.
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195 X14R I run 36 PSI
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Eh. Most tires say 35 psi. And people run 32-35psi. I dont ser the concern.
never seen a blow shock tower huh... I HAVE on NON rotted ONES... and welds crack and break too.. so use what ever you want.. BUT do not tell people it does not matter.. it does...
bu tyou also like those crappy part store shocks and stuff... one day you will ride in a good one and see how a mk1 is supposed to be...
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If you got shock towers just falling off of cars, then clearly they were compromised integrally.
I've ridden in mk1's with knock offs, monroes, KYB, Koni STR.T and Bilstein HD's. Coupled with stock, HD, crappy sport springs, and quality H&R 1" sports. More or less? Ride the same. Bump steer, and not enough suspension travel.
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boy you really wanna argue this.. will not end well...
strip the sealer and paint and all off the shock tower of a mk1.. go ahead.. look at how its made... they firt start to balloon the tower where the strut bearing goes.. the tell tail of this i swell new strut bearings do no tfit back in the holes.. gotta bend the studs to get them to line up... if you do that.. things are bent already...
then if you coul dwatch the welds behind the sealer.. sadly you do not see it till major fail bout to happen.. cause sadly the seam sealer really hides seperation well...
too much tire pressure causes that... your crappy sounding ride.. drop them tires to 28 and see how much better it is.. its NOT shock throw you are feeling.. its over inflated tires... but you do not read.. listen or anything else.. you wanna be argumenitive.. so well.. you kno wwhat to do.. you do i tall the time...
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Bad day in the salt mines I expect. I run max pressure in my 13'' 155 80's and upwards of 38 in the 195 65 14's I think they are the same Firestone tires listed prior. They are my snow tires on snowflake rims. That way I don't run the wrong tires out of season.
Like the rim is going to matter?
I do notice a bit of a softer ride if I drop the 13" down to 26 or so. That might be the OEM recommended pressure. But it cuts into the mileage.
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I have my mk1's All-Seasons at 44-45psi all year round, the mk2 has Goodyear Nordic snows on it right now at 32psi and they feel mushy, I'll run that happily as they say 35psi max.
Have you noticed any odd behavior with your mk1 and its tires at max psi, Dale? Have you had any strut towers just rip out of the body?
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snow tires i think just tend to feel very mushy on the road.
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32-35 all around on the 13's. Maybe 700K miles worth on two trucks over the years.
Rides a little softer with less pressure but as ***ty as they ride anyway whats the point.
I padded the seats in the 82 with memory foam. Tire brand and type matters too but
32 is a pretty safe bet. In the Caddy, if anything the rear can come down some, no weight back there
and the tires last 2x as long as the front unless something is screwed up.
Last time I looked at the strut towers on the 81 at about 500K there was some slight paint cracking that looked
like they were deforming in a regular pattern upward, extremely minor and it still aligned fine. I figured it was entitled
and drive it another 150K I guess before I passed it on. Nothing apparent on the 82@400K now.
Non issue in my limited sample but high mileage experience with stock suspension.
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i run 30 front and 25 rear, but then again i have 205/60/13's, so 185's may be some different, i run mine low for braking/traction purposes, higher psi means less traction, also less friction.
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8V No Issues with strut towers that I see. Only have 140K on this 81 and I have only put 25K of those on with the higher pressure. Since I have stopped my long haul commute I only do about 6 miles a day now.
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Thanks for all the input, I'll run at 32psi for now and see how it goes. I also don't have any ps - so the 14s make the steering effort a bit harder - good thing I'm a former millwright apprentice :D
Seemed to grip well during the last snowfall of 10 cm. :)
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Alignment can make a lot of diff with steering effort. I went from 13's to 14" bmw bottlecaps for awhile the other year and didn't really notice any ill effects, the
decreased wallowing from the shorter sidewall was nice. I don't think I'd go any larger/heavier willingly though.
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Alignment can make a lot of diff with steering effort. I went from 13's to 14" bmw bottlecaps for awhile the other year and didn't really notice any ill effects, the
decreased wallowing from the shorter sidewall was nice. I don't think I'd go any larger/heavier willingly though.
The car was aligned Aug 2013 after, new front end parts - bj's, tie rods, poly bushings, new top of front strut thingamadealizze.
I just assumed that the manual steer ( vs power) + increase in tire size = harder effort steering
or
maybe I'm losing my super powers.............. Damn turning 50ish.......... :'(
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I never noticed a difference in effort with different size wheels/tires, and ithink mk1s drive a hell of a lot nicer on 14s. Mk1s are great in snow too
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Alignment to what spec is the thing, there is a range, one end of the spectrum in my experience feels a lot different than the other.
A reduced tendency to return to center can reduce previeved steering effort for instance, but it will effect straight line behavior as well.
Tires can matter as well. Lot of variables. Overall I was pleased with the 14's, just mind the unsprung weight when upsizing on the early
cars. Some cheap alloy wheels are pretty heavy.
And they are awesome in the snow, in general.
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One thing I did notice on the Rabbit when running the 14's is that the had a tad less clearance and when fully loaded it would rub them a bit on hard bumps or bridge abutements.
Solved the issue with the mod to add the pipe coupler and exhaust clamp.
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Run near the indicated maximum for the best tire performance, wear etc. Run the vehicle manufacturer spec if you appreciate a "compliant ride" AKA vague handling, road feel, mushy turn in etc. If you care about a smooth ride I'd get rid of your MKI and get a vehicle built after 1995 or so.
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If you care about a smooth ride I'd get rid of your MKI and get a vehicle built after 1995 or so.
That's pretty damn accurate. At least for VW's and the like.
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If you care about a smooth ride I'd get rid of your MKI and get a vehicle built after 1995 or so.
Moderator, Is this kind of heresy allowed here? Surely this member needs to be banned for posting such an idea. Probably drives a Buick LaSabre.
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;D
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If you care about a smooth ride I'd get rid of your MKI and get a vehicle built after 1995 or so.
Moderator, Is this kind of heresy allowed here? Surely this member needs to be banned for posting such an idea. Probably drives a Buick LaSabre.
I used to drive mk1s...USED to. Now MK2 and MKIV...
I must have missed this post :D
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If you care about a smooth ride I'd get rid of your MKI and get a vehicle built after 1995 or so.
Moderator, Is this kind of heresy allowed here? Surely this member needs to be banned for posting such an idea. Probably drives a Buick LaSabre.
I actually no longer have a mkI or any water cooled vw but I advocate for running 45+ psi in your mkI, bracing the hell out of it and putting poly in everywhere including motormounts but not the transmission mount that's too much. I currently drive a tacoma by default as no other manufacturers produce a p/u near compact. I loved my caddy but can't keep up with the required maintenance right now, it's heart is in my garage and will find another mkI engine bay in which to live sooner or later. My family car is a 2010 wrx, ride comfort and compliance are not valued in my household whatsoever.