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For Sale/Looking For => Parts for Sale/Wanted => Topic started by: wolfsburged on October 22, 2013, 10:42:30 pm
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As stated.
Need a Mk1 TD pan with the drain line connection.
Also need a Mk1 alternator bracket from a car with AC. Alternator bolt bushing must be in good shape - aka not ovaled out and not stuck.
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you do know mk1 and mk2 oil return lines into the pan are different correct??
i highly suggest mocking it up and determine in the line fits in angled to a 11 o clock or 1 o clock direction..
mk1 should be 11o clock position...
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Yes...
This is to replace the oil pan on my 84 1.6TD, like for like.
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I'll check my AC brackets.
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Probably why the original post and thread title say mk1 td oil pan haha
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hey as long as he is 10000000% positive no one ever did a engine swap.. or ruined the mk1 pan and retrofitted a mk2 line and pan.. ok... i can care less.......... i told him what makes one mk1 vs mk2... so if all else fails someone does not sell him wrong one...
but f you 8v... i knew why i said something... the op may not get it.. but at least a seller would...
you just need the main cast ac bracket or all the parts?? make sure where the ac comp mounts to the bracket are nice and perfect.. if someone left the ac comp loose after belt adj they wear in odd ways.. and unless perfectly flat will ruin good ac compresors as they do not fit properly.. a file/grinder can fix some...
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So say that then ;) Don't riddle it up.
"Are you absolutely sure you do not have an mk2 engine? They have a different pan and drain line, just so you are aware"
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no i consider the op as a flake as there is no riddle.. i asked him to make sure how the line goes in.. and how a mk1 is vs a mk2...
anyone looking to reply after my post could see my queston to go opps i got the wrong one... having pissing match w/you... again stupid... do not even get why you replied to it.. i know why i did.. so there is not a member trying to install mismatched parts like a year ago...
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Yeah. Ok. You've never made a pointless reply? My apologies, I have wronged.
so there is not a member trying to install mismatched parts like a year ago...
And we knew this as the general public how?? I'm just saying, be more concise is all. Hard to fully understand something without the whole picture.
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We did a full rebuild on this motor. Its a factory mk1 TD.
And pretty sure we just need the bracket.
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I just sold the one I had, sorry. If you cannot find anything and it is needed right away, you could use some adapters on a bulkhead fitting. If not an emergency and you have time, then no big deal we will keep searching for you.
no idea on the alt bracket, but I am sure someone will have one.
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or you get a mk2 line and pan.. or mod a mk2 one (cut/weld)
unlike on a mk2... it has no rear mount in the way...
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We had a leak at the drain bolt area that we noticed when we did the rebuild. We tried fixing it, but its still leaking. And we just switched to synthetic oil and now we have a much bigger oil puddle on our garage floor. We'd like to stay with the mk1 pan if possible. We'd really like to not have to mod stuff to fit. We have one more possible solution we're going to try. Fingers crossed it will work. Getting tired of having to clean up oil every time we move the car.
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thats all....
pull the pan...
inside it is 2 spot welds holding the threaded area of the nut.. remove it and weld in a new nut inside the pan with drain plug... (i use the drain plug to hold the nut in place while welding)
ive done that lots of times on td pans...
just rebuild it. costs less and better when done..
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what's the difference between a MK1 and MK2 AC alternator bracket? Don't hey both mount on top of the water pump?
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how alt mounts very different... mk1 w ac... loose alts and loose comps ruin quite well... not a easy bracket to find undamaged... the queston is can a file fix it...
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I have a mk2 AC alternator bracket. Do you have a pic of a Mach 1 AC alternator bracket? curious what one looks like.
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8mm alt pivit bolt to start... mk2 is 10mm... the alt mount section is the differance in design..
mine is installed on my b3 set up.. aka 83 td in it.. and ac lines and all fit even.. so mk1 stuff complete will fit a mk2... but i think the alt is too tall, and rad in way to fit mk2 stuff on a mk1...
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MK1 alternator bracket has more webbing,.. and a bigger pivit bolt, like mentioned.
Here's my spare:
(http://img5.imageshack.us/img5/301/iyt0.jpg) (http://img5.imageshack.us/i/iyt0.jpg/)
$35 plus shipping.
You can see the pivot hole you are concerned with, it's round.
The AC holes/threads are good too.
Noy sure what CRSMP5 is talking about
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holes and ac mount ear look round/flat.. looks alt hole looks oversized though... not a bad thing as a 10mm bolt upgrade is good... but gotta drill the alt to do that..
the other sides ac mount ear is the sliding bushing... cannot see in pic... but since it slides if it is not flat can be fixed and made right.. if it were damaged..
just to clarify what i refer to on the mounting ears... and a non screwed up alt bolt hole..
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Did not mean to set off a firestorm. The car is an original, factory turbodiesel. Here is the build thread:
http://www.vwdiesel.net/forum/index.php?topic=26483.0
Still looking for a mk1 TD pan. Not an emergency, but the current pan already has some welding and stuff messed with on it. Would like a new one to eventually swap on and keep one as a spare since they are hard to find.
The bracket I need is stamped 068 260 885D.
It looks like this:
(http://knightcreations.com/ghetto/images/jetta/rebuild/bracket.jpg)
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whats wrong with the one in the pic?? most can be fixed unless its really bad/worn.. but check on the alt piviot bolt size in the pic above for 35... i think it was redrilled due to key hole issues..
honestly dude i have never seen a mk1 oil drain plug not screwed up... sadly i can add mk2 also.. for somereason they all seem screwed up vs the same set up on a na style pan...
if its got the original piece inside the pan... for the drain plug.. id remove it.. weld up the pan and redo its drain completly with a real nut welded inside.. i think your result unless its got major cave in from hitting things.. and honestly.. id reweld the td bung to a na pan... too hard to come by.. and too easy to mock up and weld..
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Soo just wanting a new one because the old one had a wallowed-out alternator pivot bolt hole?
Don't like mine because of all the webbing? Not a factory MK1 diesel bracket? Not shiney. Too pricey?
All of the above?
My other one has all the webbing too.
Your's looks like a couple of MK1 and MK2 AC alternator brackets broke all the rules and social norms and got it on. Made a freak.
Some kind of mutant bracket,..no webbing low (MK2) but still has the one fat web under the alternator pivot (MK1).
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lol
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I believe I have the part you are looking for... I am in Gastonia. NC... about 3 hrs south of you.. pm me contact info and I will send you pictures of the bracket.
Dan