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Title: Undercoating flaking off lets talk replacments
Post by: srgtlord on August 06, 2013, 05:45:55 pm
So my newly aquired 85 golf is beautiful and rust free but the undercoiaing is flaking off almost like paint chips in various areas. What product would you guys recommend for undercoating?
Title: Re: Undercoating flaking off lets talk replacments
Post by: audilvr on August 06, 2013, 07:17:54 pm
fluid film. soaks right into the metal.
Title: Re: Undercoating flaking off lets talk replacments
Post by: srgtlord on August 06, 2013, 08:38:20 pm
I was looking for something close to the factory undercoating
Title: Re: Undercoating flaking off lets talk replacments
Post by: bbob203 on August 06, 2013, 09:04:23 pm
I would reapply undercoating and get it oil sprayed.
Title: Re: Undercoating flaking off lets talk replacments
Post by: smutts on August 07, 2013, 05:24:20 am
The hard undercoating is great until it starts to fail, then it actually holds damp against the metal, causing creeping death of rust unseen till it is too late. After I pushed my finger through the rear chassis in a few places I found lots of welding needed. Glum.
Title: Re: Undercoating flaking off lets talk replacments
Post by: the caveman on August 07, 2013, 05:41:39 am
On my last car, which I intend will last  through the next 10 Montreal winters, I started by cleaning the underneath with a very strong cleaner, followed by pressure wash. Then I bought the OEM VW  grey urethane coating product, which comes in a tall can and needs a special spray unit, but available at good parts stores. BTW the next thing I did was to remove the seats and carpet and removed the felt underpadding and replaced it with closed cell rubber padding, sprayed rust preventative before reinstalling the interior. Of course I sprayed preventative undercoating in and under the whole car. Not a spot of rust so far after 2 winters
Title: Re: Undercoating flaking off lets talk replacments
Post by: hillfolk'r on August 07, 2013, 07:55:16 pm
Here's a good substitute for the beeswax. It's light, probably would need 4-5 coats to look factory. But I took a piece of bare steel and sprayed it 2 years ago and left it outside. There's like one little pinhead sized rust spot.

(http://i1260.photobucket.com/albums/ii563/hillfolkvwdude/null-1984.jpg)
Title: Re: Undercoating flaking off lets talk replacments
Post by: mystery3 on August 07, 2013, 09:43:03 pm
I'd use this stuff: http://www.semproducts.com/product-catalog/rust-and-corrosion/undercoatings/

SEM products are great.
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Post by: fatmobile on August 08, 2013, 12:01:56 am
 I use the SP 400 too.
 I think LPS3 is about the same thing.
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Post by: theman53 on August 08, 2013, 04:16:52 am
If you want permanent rust coating there is nothing better than Rust Bullet. It is expensive but it works. Better than LPS3, por15, and extend or anything else I have used in Ohio salt. It says on the can that if you use 2 thin coats you can use it in the ocean salt water with no fear of rust. I haven't done that but I believe it with what I have seen.
Title: Re: Undercoating flaking off lets talk replacments
Post by: srgtlord on August 08, 2013, 04:28:03 am
I actually had some time to work on the car yesterday and settled upon 3M professional undercoating. The directions say to apply 2 coats for best results. We will see how long it lasts. IF/ when this stuff flakes off I am going with rust bullet.
Title: Re: Undercoating flaking off lets talk replacments
Post by: theman53 on August 08, 2013, 04:33:45 am
Rust bullet works on the bare metal and is a thin coating. You could use an undercoating afterwards but not needed. 3M Rocker Shultz I think is how it is spelled is a good undercoating product too.
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Post by: Dakotakid on August 08, 2013, 08:22:00 pm
He's not kidding about the Rust bullet. You can slather it on rusty, thin metal and it hardens like new metal. Amazing stuff....probably better wear really good eye protection when applying it.
Title: Re: Undercoating flaking off lets talk replacments
Post by: 8v-of-fury on August 09, 2013, 09:33:36 pm
I must get some of this..

is it like a converter/epoxy coating?
Title: Re: Undercoating flaking off lets talk replacments
Post by: theman53 on August 10, 2013, 06:22:44 am
I get mine at summit racing. It is expensive, but the only thing I have found worth every penny of rust protection.