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General Information => Troubleshooting => Topic started by: Vohaul on April 29, 2013, 08:04:27 pm

Title: I think i lost a pulley somewhere....picture attached
Post by: Vohaul on April 29, 2013, 08:04:27 pm
ugh...car is on a side road off the highway again......a big metal on metal noise...then the dash lights started flashin.....

got her pulled over and heres what i see....for reference, the power steering pump is on the lower right.....

im pretty sure thats where the harmonic balancer used to be.....we searched the highway..and found the power steering belt...but nothin else....what else is gone...

is this even fixable?.....interstingly enough, the car still idles fine...just heats up quick and no power steering:)

Paul


Title: Re: I think i lost a pulley somewhere....picture attached
Post by: masterbeavis on April 29, 2013, 08:33:48 pm
Wow!  It looks fixable with another balancer/pulley. You'll need an EZ out and reverse twist drill bits to get the broken bolt out, a tap to chase the treads. Hopefully the bolt holes are not wallowed out. If they are, a new timing belt sprocket and crank bolt will fix that problem too.


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Title: Re: I think i lost a pulley somewhere....picture attached
Post by: Vohaul on April 29, 2013, 08:51:24 pm
Wow!  It looks fixable with another balancer/pulley. You'll need an EZ out and reverse twist drill bits to get the broken bolt out, a tap to chase the treads. Hopefully the bolt holes are not wallowed out. If they are, a new timing belt sprocket and crank bolt will fix that problem too.


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ya, thanks, i didnt even see the broken bolt until you mentioned it.....am i missing a bol on the other pulley there as well...?
Title: Re: I think i lost a pulley somewhere....picture attached
Post by: wolf_walker on April 29, 2013, 09:38:24 pm
And one on the water pump pulley.  What in the hell killed all your bolts!??
Title: Re: I think i lost a pulley somewhere....picture attached
Post by: Vohaul on April 29, 2013, 09:51:10 pm
And one on the water pump pulley.  What in the hell killed all your bolts!??

I have no clue......was a loud scraping noise and more than a few bangs as everything came apart..... Sigh
Title: Re: I think i lost a pulley somewhere....picture attached
Post by: mystery3 on April 30, 2013, 12:23:36 am
Are there any animal parts or tire treads or any other foreign materials in your engine compartment?
Title: Re: I think i lost a pulley somewhere....picture attached
Post by: theman53 on April 30, 2013, 05:51:18 am
Did your ps pump lock up? If not I would say something got into the belts. If it starts and runs fine with no crank wobble then that is probably not it. Good luck.
Title: Re: I think i lost a pulley somewhere....picture attached
Post by: ORCoaster on April 30, 2013, 09:45:26 pm
I'd be looking for a cat or cat hair under there someplace. 
Title: Re: I think i lost a pulley somewhere....picture attached
Post by: 745 turbogreasel on May 01, 2013, 01:25:33 am
Better check torque on the crank bolt.
Title: Re: I think i lost a pulley somewhere....picture attached
Post by: bbob203 on May 01, 2013, 01:55:41 am
do you have a clutched alt pulley?
Title: Re: I think i lost a pulley somewhere....picture attached
Post by: Vohaul on May 01, 2013, 09:14:09 am
do you have a clutched alt pulley?

no but was in the process of getting one for it.....
honeslty, i might just call it quits with the diesel.....in addition to the new crank pulley, somethings wrong with either the glow plugs or the relay...it burns oil..and the body is rusty....i think maybe its time has come....sad maybe but i need a dependable daily driver...and this aint it anymore...
Title: Re: I think i lost a pulley somewhere....picture attached
Post by: R.O.R-2.0 on May 01, 2013, 11:44:39 am
do you have a clutched alt pulley?

no but was in the process of getting one for it.....
honeslty, i might just call it quits with the diesel.....in addition to the new crank pulley, somethings wrong with either the glow plugs or the relay...it burns oil..and the body is rusty....i think maybe its time has come....sad maybe but i need a dependable daily driver...and this aint it anymore...

it has gone too long with not enough maintenance then..

ive been driving a PARTS CAR for over 4 years now... problem free, logged over 100k miles on it..

yes, i bought the car as parts, but then i didnt have the heart to take it apart after i got it home, and got it running..

all it takes, is some basic maintenance, and these VWs will go for EVER..
Title: Re: I think i lost a pulley somewhere....picture attached
Post by: bbob203 on May 01, 2013, 01:33:24 pm
do you have a clutched alt pulley?

no but was in the process of getting one for it.....
honeslty, i might just call it quits with the diesel.....in addition to the new crank pulley, somethings wrong with either the glow plugs or the relay...it burns oil..and the body is rusty....i think maybe its time has come....sad maybe but i need a dependable daily driver...and this aint it anymore...

It might not need the crank pulley fixed if its not messed up you can install the clutched pulley and you dont have to worry about that infamous aaz crank nose failure. glow plug system easy to troubleshoot. i would source a god used harmonic balancer and get 'er fixed it up
Title: Re: I think i lost a pulley somewhere....picture attached
Post by: R.O.R-2.0 on May 01, 2013, 02:56:01 pm
do you have a clutched alt pulley?

no but was in the process of getting one for it.....
honeslty, i might just call it quits with the diesel.....in addition to the new crank pulley, somethings wrong with either the glow plugs or the relay...it burns oil..and the body is rusty....i think maybe its time has come....sad maybe but i need a dependable daily driver...and this aint it anymore...

It might not need the crank pulley fixed if its not messed up you can install the clutched pulley and you dont have to worry about that infamous aaz crank nose failure. glow plug system easy to troubleshoot. i would source a god used harmonic balancer and get 'er fixed it up


x2 on that...
Title: Re: I think i lost a pulley somewhere....picture attached
Post by: Vohaul on May 01, 2013, 04:42:38 pm
it got regular maintenance and all...timing belt was just done along with a few other things....regular oil changes...but a while back, the serp belt snapped when my wife was driving it, and i think it mighta overheated....hasnt really been the same since....

do you have a clutched alt pulley?

no but was in the process of getting one for it.....
honeslty, i might just call it quits with the diesel.....in addition to the new crank pulley, somethings wrong with either the glow plugs or the relay...it burns oil..and the body is rusty....i think maybe its time has come....sad maybe but i need a dependable daily driver...and this aint it anymore...

it has gone too long with not enough maintenance then..

ive been driving a PARTS CAR for over 4 years now... problem free, logged over 100k miles on it..

yes, i bought the car as parts, but then i didnt have the heart to take it apart after i got it home, and got it running..

all it takes, is some basic maintenance, and these VWs will go for EVER..
Title: Re: Re: I think i lost a pulley somewhere....picture attached
Post by: Rising on May 03, 2013, 05:07:49 pm
Hey sorry to threadjack but I have a crankshaft pulley with an unbelievably unremovable bolt I broke an Allen in... could I just buy a new timing belt gear and crank bolt and swap without removing the bolt?

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Title: Re: I think i lost a pulley somewhere....picture attached
Post by: bbob203 on May 03, 2013, 05:20:54 pm
yes i have removed the timing gear with the vbelt pulley still installed on it. you could also pull it and drill it out from the other side  and helicoil it.
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Post by: Rising on May 03, 2013, 05:30:39 pm
Very clever! Excellent! I had been dreading this. Is the crank bolt tty? Also also: should I lock the IP and camshaft before I yank it? Ill prob just do a new timing belt and idler while I'm there...

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Title: Re: I think i lost a pulley somewhere....picture attached
Post by: Vohaul on October 21, 2013, 08:49:45 am
Just as an update for anyone that read my post....

I did not end up getting rid of the jetta.....and though it took me awhile, the jetta is now back up and running, with new glow plugs, harmonic balancer, clutched alt pullley.....and dare i say, i think it runs and drives better than it did before.....

so..one less jetta sent out to pasture:)

Thanks to all that helped or sold me parts:)

Cheers

Paul



do you have a clutched alt pulley?

no but was in the process of getting one for it.....
honeslty, i might just call it quits with the diesel.....in addition to the new crank pulley, somethings wrong with either the glow plugs or the relay...it burns oil..and the body is rusty....i think maybe its time has come....sad maybe but i need a dependable daily driver...and this aint it anymore...