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Engine Specific Info and Questions => IDI Engine => Topic started by: stewardc on April 27, 2013, 07:39:24 am

Title: Fuel line....HELP.
Post by: stewardc on April 27, 2013, 07:39:24 am: Does anyone have a source for the hard plastic fuel line that goes from the top of the fuel filter to the injection pump? It's the dirty orange line below.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v648/stewardc/100_3317_zpsbbe87d55.jpg)
Title: Re: Fuel line....HELP.
Post by: theman53 on April 27, 2013, 08:01:56 am: yeah a guy on ebay was selling them. Search his other stuff and you may find it separate. Or buy it for the line and sell me the TD pipes LOL.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/220556835942?ssPageName=STRK:MESINDXX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1436.l2649#ht_2131wt_904
Title: Re: Fuel line....HELP.
Post by: ORCoaster on April 27, 2013, 08:45:39 am: Cheaper by itself.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vw-Rabbit-Jetta-Pickup-Turbo-Diesel-Filter-Pump-Hose-/360309676939?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&vxp=mtr&hash=item53e4215b8b
Title: Re: Fuel line....HELP.
Post by: williamtaygan on April 27, 2013, 09:03:19 am: I get my correct size, nylon tubing from GreaseWorks in Oregon. They specialize in VW diesel conversions.

https://www.greaseworks.com/store/index.php?route=product/product&product_id=601 (https://www.greaseworks.com/store/index.php?route=product/product&product_id=601)
Title: Re: Fuel line....HELP.
Post by: CRSMP5 on April 27, 2013, 09:24:21 am: ill ask.. i know my solution.. but how to get it on the barbs???

hint cup of boiling water...

if you can find the plastic line.. cut old off barbs.. fit line onto new barbs.. if you do it wrong.. will suck air..
Title: Re: Fuel line....HELP.
Post by: wolf_walker on April 27, 2013, 09:39:08 am: Would you humor me with a larger pic of your engine bay? Looks nice. :)

And I usually buy from these guys
https://www.autohausaz.com/search/product.aspx?sid=q224am554tadzk45yzgqfsvp&partnumber=068130309 (https://www.autohausaz.com/search/product.aspx?sid=q224am554tadzk45yzgqfsvp&partnumber=068130309)
Has to be someone in Canada with them though, if not just bulk line as was mentioned.
I've used rubber hose with hose clamps in a pinch.
Title: Re: Fuel line....HELP.
Post by: stewardc on April 27, 2013, 10:34:39 am: Thanks, but most of those want twice the price of the part to ship to Canada. The rest don't ship to Canada :-[
Title: Re: Fuel line....HELP.
Post by: williamtaygan on April 27, 2013, 11:26:39 am: Heat the barbs with a heat gun, slides right on. Heating the fuel line caused it to bunch up on me. Give GreaseWorks a call, they're easy to deal with and have shipped me lots of stuff to Alaska, I'm sure they'll ship cheap to Canada. Their line is the right stuff, and at $2 or so a foot, you can't go wrong.
Title: Re: Fuel line....HELP.
Post by: 745 turbogreasel on April 27, 2013, 01:18:53 pm: The braided nylon stuff from the hardware store is good 5-7 years, more if you have a Hydraulic shop put new crimp collars on your barbs.
Title: Re: Fuel line....HELP.
Post by: stewardc on April 28, 2013, 04:43:41 am: Quote from: wolf_walker on April 27, 2013, 09:39:08 am
Would you humor me with a larger pic of your engine bay? Looks nice. :)

Indeed. This is as it was before the AAZ swap.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v648/stewardc/100_3316_zps565114db.jpg)
Title: Re: Fuel line....HELP.
Post by: homerj1 on April 28, 2013, 05:34:46 am: Quote from: stewardc on April 28, 2013, 04:43:41 am
Quote from: wolf_walker on April 27, 2013, 09:39:08 am
Would you humor me with a larger pic of your engine bay? Looks nice. :)

Indeed. This is as it was before the AAZ swap.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v648/stewardc/100_3316_zps565114db.jpg)

Nice!!
Did you find that the fuel filter was running cool enough with the shielding and the closeness to the downpipe? I just moved mine ( mk 1 jetta) to the pass. side of the fire wall - didn't think about using shielding - doh.
Title: Re: Fuel line....HELP.
Post by: stewardc on April 28, 2013, 05:39:15 am: That mounting location and shield are OEM, though these trucks never got the turbodiesel. Heating the diesel is good, not bad, I think. No problems anyway.
Title: Re: Fuel line....HELP.
Post by: homerj1 on April 28, 2013, 07:09:02 am: Quote from: stewardc on April 28, 2013, 05:39:15 am
That mounting location and shield are OEM, though these trucks never got the turbodiesel. Heating the diesel is good, not bad, I think. No problems anyway.

Thanks.

My jetta came with the same mt. point, but no shield. I just thought the downpipe might throw too much heat on the fuel filter.
Title: Re: Fuel line....HELP.
Post by: bajacalal on April 28, 2013, 11:20:50 am: Could you actually measure the temperature of the fuel as it exits? If it's no warmer than what people are using for waste oil fuel, which I would assume is a few degrees less than the engine coolant temperature (say, 140F) I wouldn't worry about it. Some diesels have a factory fuel heater.
Title: Re: Fuel line....HELP.
Post by: ORCoaster on April 28, 2013, 12:27:24 pm: I doubt the fuel would reach the 160 degree mark we WVO folks use but remember the base oil is much different. Heating of diesel isn't needed with the exception of very cold climates and long hauls. The reason for WVO heat is to make it LIKE diesel in viscosity and keep it moving in the lines.

I am not sure what I read about pre-heating diesel. Concern over spray pattern or something like that as it would be thinner than normal.

I have a temp gauge that reads the to the tenth of a decimal the fuel going into the front end of my IP. I have thought about moving one of the three sensors to the top of the steel line on the 2nd or 3rd cylinder just to see how much heat I am loosing along the way. I bet it is plenty. They are not insulated like all other hoses that hold the WVO.
Title: Re: Re: Fuel line....HELP.
Post by: wolf_walker on April 28, 2013, 01:20:04 pm: How are the drivers side filters piped?

Anecdotal experience says they run better with warm fuel, least in the winter. Six hours into a trip mine have always felt better once the tank is warmed up, and less so after a cold fuel fill up. I had a really tired pump a few years back that ran way better after sitting at idle and letting the pump get hot. They cool off at highway speeds.

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