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For Sale/Looking For => Parts for Sale/Wanted => Topic started by: ilikevwdiesel on April 01, 2013, 01:14:23 pm

Title: FS: 11mm 1.6 NA head
Post by: ilikevwdiesel on April 01, 2013, 01:14:23 pm
removed from running engine. engine did not overheat or otherwise act funky. want it gone. 75 plus shipping.
Title: Re: FS: 11mm 1.6 NA head
Post by: CRSMP5 on April 01, 2013, 03:21:01 pm
fyi cam be made 12mm by drilling rear corner holes.. and using a spacer between head and headbolt washer (i grind down old air cooled head stud washers to fit the head... aka diameter too big)... the bolt length is wrong..
Title: Re: FS: 11mm 1.6 NA head
Post by: ilikevwdiesel on April 02, 2013, 07:55:39 am
someone once told me a head stud kit for a ford cosworth would allow the use of an 11mm head on a 12mm block if the holes on the head were enlarged to 12mm. never tried so don't know if it's true or not.
Title: Re: FS: 11mm 1.6 NA head
Post by: ilikevwdiesel on April 02, 2013, 08:55:36 am
once was in sf bay area...needed engine for caddy. got on cl...found in reno. wnt there and bought the car...took it back to SF. was 81 rabbit with 12mm head bolts. at least that wut it looked like. put engine in caddy and head east , I=80. engine gets hot. pull over in reno   .    take engine apart. found some meathead had put  11mm head on there...drilled holes out...took 12mm bolts and cut them down. i was fuct.
Title: Re: FS: 11mm 1.6 NA head
Post by: CRSMP5 on April 02, 2013, 09:49:56 am
why my "spacer" method works... reuse w/new headbolts..

sadly ive done this too many times.. 11mm heads seem easy to find as their blocks crack... hell the modded 11mm head on my b3 wagon is from my 1st car i built in 89.. i modded that in 07 when the b3 cracked its head.. and my 11mm one i ported in 96 when i added a bae turbo to it in my caddy.. 100,000+ mile head when i got it.. i myself 500k easy...
Title: Re: FS: 11mm 1.6 NA head
Post by: ilikevwdiesel on April 02, 2013, 09:54:30 am
uwannabuythis1?
Title: Re: FS: 11mm 1.6 NA head
Post by: CRSMP5 on April 02, 2013, 01:28:36 pm
s spare non trusting 12mm head.. dislike its exhaust valve seat someone put in fo rmy *** me in trouble... and i have a complete running in great order 11mm 1.6 set up.. and my 81 coupe has a 12mm w/11mm head commin out when i strip it down.. with no home per say.. if proto engine i building fo rmy jack rabbit fails that will go there.. so at moment.. got lots of idi.. also have a hydro 1.6 set up that someone is buying..

but the info is for those who need a head and are spooked by 11 vs 12.. it works.. just the spacer thing is not well known.. i redrill all the hed bolts.. but honestly.. the rear 2 are the issue ones.. the 12mm bolts fit the other holes.. just rear corner 2 are smaller dimeter..
Title: Re: FS: 11mm 1.6 NA head
Post by: wdkingery on April 02, 2013, 10:24:19 pm
what?

anyway, does this fit engine code ME?
Title: Re: FS: 11mm 1.6 NA head
Post by: CRSMP5 on April 03, 2013, 01:00:22 am
if its a 1.5, 1.6 non hydro idi diesel it can work..

newer non hydro 82-86ish goto 12mm head bolts.. this can be modded.. to work.. but will directly fit all the 1.5/1.6 11mm blocks..

no idea what a ME came in or year used..

if hydro... well get hole welded up.. redrilled to 12mm.. it can even work on 1.9idi.. best choice no.. but for the price.. worth it for a save my arss head..  honestly.. this is the idi head for the shelf.. it will fit them all in a damb it cracked and im poor situation..
Title: Re: FS: 11mm 1.6 NA head
Post by: wdkingery on April 03, 2013, 03:41:40 pm
it will fit them all in a damb it cracked and im poor situation..

that's my situation (if mine were to crack.)

ME code = 1985 mech jetta

i don't know if i have an 11 or 12
Title: Re: FS: 11mm 1.6 NA head
Post by: theman53 on April 03, 2013, 04:34:56 pm
it will fit them all in a damb it cracked and im poor situation..

that's my situation (if mine were to crack.)

ME code = 1985 mech jetta

i don't know if i have an 11 or 12
12mm mech? I know the MF engine were either hydro or mech, but the ME I thought were all hydro. All ME were 12mm for sure.
Title: Re: FS: 11mm 1.6 NA head
Post by: 8v-of-fury on April 03, 2013, 08:02:17 pm
No sir, all 1.6 ME coded heads are Hydraulic valves.

Volkswagen Golf (07/85-07/92), Volkswagen Jetta (07/85-07/91).

The JP and CR were 1.6 Mechanical valves, and were available as an engine option until 91. However not in North America as the ME Hydraulic took over. CR from 80-82, JP from 83-91.

Volkswagen Golf (CR: 8/80-7/82, JP: 8/83-10/91), Volkswagen Jetta (CR: 8/80-7/82, JP: 12/83-10/91)
Title: Re: FS: 11mm 1.6 NA head
Post by: ilikevwdiesel on April 03, 2013, 08:16:04 pm
1985 MF and ME code engines had mechanical lifters. 86 and up were hydraulic.
Title: Re: FS: 11mm 1.6 NA head
Post by: 8v-of-fury on April 03, 2013, 08:22:20 pm
1986 model year and up yes, 85 model year was still a mechanical engine. It would have been a 1984 JP code engine, not the ME which was a 1985 engine and debuted in the 1986 model year as a hydraulic engine.
Title: Re: FS: 11mm 1.6 NA head
Post by: 8v-of-fury on April 03, 2013, 08:22:48 pm
ME and MF were hydraulic from day one, and that is the reason they got a new engine code.
Title: Re: FS: 11mm 1.6 NA head
Post by: ilikevwdiesel on April 03, 2013, 08:34:41 pm
am I the only person here that's stripped out 85 mk2 diesels w/solid lifters and found ME/MF stamped on the block?
Title: Re: FS: 11mm 1.6 NA head
Post by: 8v-of-fury on April 03, 2013, 08:46:01 pm
Possible, I mean if you have real world experience.. then the stuff I found online is incorrect. From what I have read though, the ME and MF started the hydro lineup.

You don't have to be a dink about it ;). Maybe the info I saw was German only.. ?
Title: Re: FS: 11mm 1.6 NA head
Post by: ilikevwdiesel on April 03, 2013, 08:55:43 pm
stop talking trash or a fascist horde will invade your country and overthrow your gov't.


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Title: Re: FS: 11mm 1.6 NA head
Post by: 8v-of-fury on April 03, 2013, 09:05:30 pm
My apologies, I was unaware this was a for sale thread.. GLWS.
Title: Re: FS: 11mm 1.6 NA head
Post by: ilikevwdiesel on April 03, 2013, 09:09:36 pm
no problem bro just don't shut off the oil we need it down here.
Title: Re: FS: 11mm 1.6 NA head
Post by: theman53 on April 03, 2013, 10:47:20 pm
MF could be either, as I own a mech MF, but I have never seen any ME mechs ever.
Title: Re: FS: 11mm 1.6 NA head
Post by: CRSMP5 on April 03, 2013, 11:40:47 pm
best way is to get pic of old head/block for saftey.. take to pm... but yes can be made to fit hydro... is it worth it no... 8v just sold a hydro one for a little more... the machine work needed for plugging the extra oil passage is not "simple" but can be dome.. think cooling passage in head vs oil..

but imo hydro heads are hard to find vs solid.. 12mm solid hardest it seem.. and 11mm most skip not relizing it can fit them all with little work..