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Title: Jezebel Jetta
Post by: vanbcguy on March 15, 2013, 07:10:40 am
Meet Jezebel Jetta!

(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8512/8553320716_53267f9f1d_z.jpg)

She likes long drives on the highway, the finer fuels in life and she has a great sense of humor.

(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8520/8559900770_f43a1f81d2_z.jpg)

Oh and she likes travelling with her friends...

(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8234/8558809797_b949a96e54_z.jpg)


If you ask her really nice, she might let you see under the hood...

(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8511/8553319714_7a5a779140_z.jpg)

(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8525/8552205397_a6724dc48e_z.jpg)


And she's definitely the kind of girl that can pull her own weight!!

(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8378/8559916400_19faaf50f2_z.jpg)

(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8524/8558813663_98d2450815_z.jpg)


She's got a sister too...

(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8367/8559935130_ac196e8407_z.jpg)

Over the years she's stolen a few bits and pieces from her sister's "closet"... Rear doors... Rear bumper cover... The whole interior...

Before:

(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8110/8559905314_4a54f420db_z.jpg)

During:

(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8225/8559917518_397a9e6599_z.jpg)

(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8106/8558811061_847f78d869_z.jpg)

After:

(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8242/8559904934_dc7eb4c5f6_z.jpg)

And over the years she's gotten some love in other places too.  A friend of mine used to run a detailing shop, this was fresh after a full polish and wax:

(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8382/8558795839_f9a2c61456_z.jpg)

I seem to love buying her toys... I bought my own trailer this year as the U-Haul ones suck (nothing like a wobbly wheel for 5 hours on the freeway, then you get the same trailer a year later and it's still wobbly...)  Oh and that's her soon-to-be M-TDI in the back...

(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8251/8558792407_88e7f746a7_z.jpg)

Some day I need to get some good smoke shots, seems I'm always too busy driving to snap 'em... ;)
Title: Re: Jezebel Jetta
Post by: 8v-of-fury on March 15, 2013, 11:02:49 am
Damn, the best A3 I've ever seen man... BEAUTY!!!

Mine doesn't smoke at all :(
Title: Re: Jezebel Jetta
Post by: JamesT on March 15, 2013, 05:02:25 pm
That is a clean MK3. I can't wait to see the mTDi swap.
Title: Re: Re: Jezebel Jetta
Post by: vanbcguy on March 16, 2013, 12:25:03 pm
Thanks everyone. Yeah I don't see too many other Mk3s as clean as her for sure, especially not early ones. She's got about 330,000 km on her and she drives great. Her sister has about 120,000 and needs a lot of help.

Funny how two nearly identical cars can be so different.... I guess after 5 years of me fixing whatever needed to be fixed I'm ahead of the curve...

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Title: Re: Jezebel Jetta
Post by: fdnyguy on March 31, 2013, 01:14:24 pm
Sweet blue. Nice looking car.

Stay safe, stay well. Jimmy.
Title: Re: Jezebel Jetta
Post by: 8v-of-fury on April 07, 2013, 09:03:25 pm
hey hey hey, Can we get some detailed pictures of your AWIC setup pleassssse? :)
Title: Re: Re: Jezebel Jetta
Post by: vanbcguy on April 07, 2013, 09:47:37 pm
Yeah I have 'em around somewhere. I'll post them up when I'm in front if an actual computer!

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Title: Re: Jezebel Jetta
Post by: vanbcguy on April 09, 2013, 06:25:55 pm
Some AWIC pics...

Here's the inside of the AWIC itself:

(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8109/8552207585_1564f65e04_z.jpg)


The complete kit prior to installation:

(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8383/8552207047_570dec86f6_z.jpg)


Here it is installed:

(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8104/8553309546_6931c59153_z.jpg)


How the intercooler radiator looks with the grille in place:

(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8511/8553319714_7a5a779140_z.jpg)


The intercooler radiator is actually almost exactly the same size as the engine radiator:

(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8521/8549503490_8fab878001_z.jpg)
Title: Re: Jezebel Jetta
Post by: 8v-of-fury on April 09, 2013, 06:40:04 pm
Alllllllllllright. How did you know your setup needs (piping and silicone) prior to ordering? I have a much busier engine bay (mk1) and I am torn on how to run it just yet. I was gonna order a small universal pipe kit.. probably 2" and then a bunch of various straight couplers of the right sizes.

Butttttt your setup looks great.


Title: Re: Re: Jezebel Jetta
Post by: vanbcguy on April 09, 2013, 09:46:49 pm
Haha I'm pretty OCD when I get going on a project. I spent some time with a sketch pad and a tape measure to sort out what all I needed. Then I did it all again like 3 more times while I was saving up the money...

So yeah I had a pretty good idea of what I needed when I finally ordered everything. Just ask me how many times I've checked out the turbo map for the Gt2056 I'm thinking of buying for my TDI project.

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Title: Re: Jezebel Jetta
Post by: 92EcoDiesel Jetta on April 11, 2013, 01:33:01 pm
vanbcguy, nice awic install! Please describe differences w and w/o intercooling . In regards to the radiator for the intercooler, I wonder if an AC condenser can be used instead.
Title: Re: Jezebel Jetta
Post by: 8v-of-fury on April 11, 2013, 01:42:10 pm
There is literally no comparison to no inter cooler compared to a normal air-to-air inter cooler... its that much difference again between the air to air and air to water!

AWIC ARE THE BOMB@
Title: Re: Re: Jezebel Jetta
Post by: vanbcguy on April 11, 2013, 05:49:44 pm
The turbo adds a lot of heat when it compresses air. The more boost, the more heat. Factory boost levels are fairly benign but past about 15 psi the amount of heat being added causes so much expansion that it negates the benefits of the higher pressure.

An intercooler chills the air post turbo back as close to ambient as possible. By cooling the air down it becomes denser, allowing more of it to fit in the engine. The more air you can fit, the more fuel you can burn.

After I added the intercooler I was able to increase my boost up to about 25 psi. Colder denser air will cause the fuel to be burned more completely, which also will result in improved mileage.

So what you get is a potential for more power and better mileage!

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Title: Re: Re: Jezebel Jetta
Post by: vanbcguy on April 11, 2013, 05:55:39 pm
Oh btw, AC condenser - I thought of that too, it was my original plan. But the problem is the tubing is so small -  someone else on here did some math and basically showed it would have too much restriction.

The radiator I used was under $100 new on its own and fit great.

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Title: Re: Re: Jezebel Jetta
Post by: 92EcoDiesel Jetta on April 19, 2013, 07:24:01 am
Oh btw, AC condenser - I thought of that too, it was my original plan. But the problem is the tubing is so small -  someone else on here did some math and basically showed it would have too much restriction.

The radiator I used was under $100 new on its own and fit great.

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Do you know what the flow rate of your pump or system is? I have an aftermarket a/c condenser in mine which is not being used so it would save a lot of work from installing a new radiator in its place. I can  easily test the flow rate of the a/c condense with a particular pump and if not sufficient I could use a bigger pump
Title: Re: Jezebel Jetta
Post by: vanbcguy on April 19, 2013, 07:40:48 am
Good question... I know I had that around somewhere... <digging through the internet>

It should be flowing about 35 lpm / 9 gpm, so that would be quite a lot to flow through the small tubing of a condenser.  Someone suggested splitting the condenser into 2 or 3 separate loops by unsoldering some of the 'U' fittings on one side and then flowing through the loops in parallel - that might be a workable way to handle it though the tubing is definitely quite small.
Title: Re: Re: Jezebel Jetta
Post by: 92EcoDiesel Jetta on April 23, 2013, 01:25:12 pm
What's the seat of the pants difference and MPG w and w/o the AWIC?

The turbo adds a lot of heat when it compresses air. The more boost, the more heat. Factory boost levels are fairly benign but past about 15 psi the amount of heat being added causes so much expansion that it negates the benefits of the higher pressure.

An intercooler chills the air post turbo back as close to ambient as possible. By cooling the air down it becomes denser, allowing more of it to fit in the engine. The more air you can fit, the more fuel you can burn.

After I added the intercooler I was able to increase my boost up to about 25 psi. Colder denser air will cause the fuel to be burned more completely, which also will result in improved mileage.

So what you get is a potential for more power and better mileage!

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Title: Re: Re: Jezebel Jetta
Post by: vanbcguy on April 23, 2013, 05:06:43 pm
The AWIC gained me about 15% mileage wise. I turned my turbo and pump up quite a lot when I added it so it probably could be even more. I have my boost controller set to open at about 22 PSI.

Seat of the pants was quite noticeable, although that was most definitely related to the increased boost and fueling too. Jezzie is pretty quick once she's spooled up, I can pull away from most economy cars no problem.  Hill climbing especially.

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Title: Re: Jezebel Jetta
Post by: vanbcguy on May 22, 2013, 09:17:43 am
So like I mentioned in my build thread, Jezebel's gasser sister got run nearly out of oil.  Filled her up with some 20W50 and got rid of her.  But we've got a new "relative" now to keep Jezebel company in the driveway:

(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8409/8781037547_094eeb70eb_c.jpg)

2004 1.8T with the 09A 5-speed automatic.  Man that car is FAST!  Definitely can't hold a candle to Jezebel in terms of fuel mileage though.

I did grab a couple more good parts of the "bad" Mk3 before getting rid of it.  Did a hood swap - Jezzie's hood had a bunch of stone chips, one good scratch, a quarter-sized spot of rust and some stains in the paint.  The other hood was way better.  In the end Jezzie got the interior panels, seats, rear doors, rear bumper cover, center mount brake light, sunroof motor and hood from the other one.
Title: Re: Jezebel Jetta
Post by: RabbitJockey on May 23, 2013, 04:59:55 am
So like I mentioned in my build thread, Jezebel's gasser sister got run nearly out of oil.  Filled her up with some 20W50 and got rid of her.  But we've got a new "relative" now to keep Jezebel company in the driveway:

(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8409/8781037547_094eeb70eb_c.jpg)

2004 1.8T with the 09A 5-speed automatic.  Man that car is FAST!  Definitely can't hold a candle to Jezebel in terms of fuel mileage though.

I did grab a couple more good parts of the "bad" Mk3 before getting rid of it.  Did a hood swap - Jezzie's hood had a bunch of stone chips, one good scratch, a quarter-sized spot of rust and some stains in the paint.  The other hood was way better.  In the end Jezzie got the interior panels, seats, rear doors, rear bumper cover, center mount brake light, sunroof motor and hood from the other one.

yes those later 1.8t's really run, i don't want to exaggerate it and make it sound like i think they're 10 second cars from the factory, but i've driven plenty of cars that were faster and for 180hp and being stock they really do go along.