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Engine Specific Info and Questions => IDI Engine => Topic started by: millertime on February 24, 2013, 08:23:50 pm
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Im not selling it just saw it on vancover canada criagslist. Not to far from the boarder wish i had thought to look on candian craigslist before I paid 2k for a 1.6 eco. Oh well next time. Its the vancover craigslist. Might be worth the drive for some one wanting to do the swap.
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http://vancouver.en.craigslist.ca/pml/ptd/3601784896.html
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http://www.usedvictoria.com/classified-ad/1996-Volkswagen-Jetta-GL-Diesel_19169647 (http://www.usedvictoria.com/classified-ad/1996-Volkswagen-Jetta-GL-Diesel_19169647)
This one is a bit more, but it comes with the rest of a car.
To be honest, $1500 is more than I would pay for an AAZ swap of unknown origin.
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1500 is steep for an aaz IMO. Complete tdi swaps are the same price.
Id jump on it if it was closer, but then if it was closer it would be $3,000..
Maybe when I get ready for the 1.9 upgrade I'll make the trip up north..
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I am sorry you guys got screwed down there when it came to anything awesome ;).
I got my running and driving 98 TDI for $400 when I was looking for my M-TDI candidate.
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Yes we did.
And the new long block was $4 or $5K for the AAZ in my truck a few years back. Sucked.
It was still cheaper than a TDI at the time.
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I got my 97 aaz in a 93 golf for $500 with 230k on it, i won't pay more than that for another.
But i'am super cheap lol
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Yes,
People in the south and west where rust doesn't kill a car do get screwed with high price parts. But the problem is relative. My 32 year old Caddy still has original paint and doesn't look that bad (about a 10Ft paint job) and no rust. But I paid more for my AAZ than people in the rust-belt. Its a trade-off.
unfortuneately, high scrap metal prices have made many old VWs mere relics in the rust-free southern US. That and no one except collecter-operators know how to fix them.
But the BIG Problem is those damn annual safety inspections...
written with a hint of GEST. ::)
Wayne
Case in point: Put new tie-rods, bushings on my CADDY. Only one shop in the Richmond VA area had the alignment specs for it.
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http://www.usedvictoria.com/classified-ad/1996-Volkswagen-Jetta-GL-Diesel_19169647 (http://www.usedvictoria.com/classified-ad/1996-Volkswagen-Jetta-GL-Diesel_19169647)
This one is a bit more, but it comes with the rest of a car.
To be honest, $1500 is more than I would pay for an AAZ swap of unknown origin.
hey what kind of gas mileage does this get? a non turbo? are they a turd? this is a good deal for someone in Virginia. like really good.
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http://www.usedvictoria.com/classified-ad/1996-Volkswagen-Jetta-GL-Diesel_19169647 (http://www.usedvictoria.com/classified-ad/1996-Volkswagen-Jetta-GL-Diesel_19169647)
This one is a bit more, but it comes with the rest of a car.
To be honest, $1500 is more than I would pay for an AAZ swap of unknown origin.
hey what kind of gas mileage does this get? a non turbo? are they a turd? this is a good deal for someone in Virginia. like really good.
Seriously, VW crap here in the East coast is DAMN expensive! Makes it near impossible to be an enthusiast, let alone a gearhead. You have to know way too many locals and be there at the right time to get a reasonable dael on a lot of stuff; junk yards don't even have half the stuff we on here seek, and that's just the cars themselves. Thank god for Carquest.
. . . wait, you're in VA too??? Well at least somebody's in hell with me. :P
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wdkingery, These cars get fairly decent mileage for Mk3's. My AAZ golf could do 6L/100km combined driving, and I didn't drive it gently. They are turbo diesel IDI engines. The engines are good, the problem is the cars they came in and the type of people who owned them previously.
Toronto is only a 10 hour drive from Charlottesville. That's a weekend trip in my experience. In a quick search on kijiji, I found 3 mk3 diesels under $1500 (http://ontario.kijiji.ca/c-cars-vehicles-cars-trucks-vw-td-diesel-standard-low-km-on-motor-W0QQAdIdZ457153477), a couple TDI's under $2000 (http://ontario.kijiji.ca/c-cars-vehicles-cars-trucks-2001-Volkswagen-Golf-GLS-TDI-Hatchback-W0QQAdIdZ418605555), and someone selling a complete AAZ and two blocks for under $400 (http://ontario.kijiji.ca/c-cars-vehicles-auto-parts-tires-engine-engine-parts-1-9L-VW-Turbo-Diesel-Engine-2-Blocks-W0QQAdIdZ457539417). That took me 5 minutes from over 4000km away. The good deals are out there, you just need to know where to look and be willing to travel for them.
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Found a better way to search. (http://ontario.kijiji.ca/f-cars-vehicles-cars-trucks-Volkswagen-W0QQAQ5fCarFuelTypeZdieselQQAQ5fCarMakeZvolkwagenQQCatIdZ174QQisProvinceSearchZtrueQQmaxPriceZ2Q2c000QQmaxPriceBackendZ200000)
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Are you ***tin me??
Wait till I'm at my computer. I got links that would make you laugh out loud. You would ask yourself, "who pays prices like that? Who would even have the audacity to ask such a price?"
In fact, a friend and I just went to see a 2001 jetta tdi right. Ok it was horribly abused (like lowered so low and driven so hard the drivers seat airbag went off randomly), the timing was off for some unknown reason (belt still tight) and caused intake valves to bend.. Interior trashed. Unknown mileage.
And the price? $2500!
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Pshhh, I've seen a clean one go for 6K. FREAKING 6! STOCK!!! Unfortunately it's like JamesT says, the problem is who owned them last, but that only serves to inflate the price of the few good ones left in a pool of already small numbers. There's a mk5 PD sitting out back my work taken in on a trade with a bad cam, and management wants no less than 3K, and that's employee pricing!
I need to get out of this damn country, I swear. At least this city; C'ville has 'little apple syndrome' to the nines, too many rich snobs, a douchey party college w/ a bad football team, and in a county full of dumb hicks. AND NONE OF THEM MAINTAIN THEIR CARS!! Everything more than 6 years old almost always looks like CRAP! Stupid rich/broke students.
My sincerest apologies for the off topic rant, but I just can't stand to be quiet about my opinions anymore.
Throw up those links. I could use a laugh.
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My sincerest apologies for the off topic rant, but I just can't stand to be quiet about my opinions anymore.
I've not yet seen you stand to be quiet about your opinions :P
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My sincerest apologies for the off topic rant, but I just can't stand to be quiet about my opinions anymore.
I've not yet seen you stand to be quiet about your opinions :P
Hmmmm, good point. I don't speak much in real life, admittedly; try hard as I can to go through the day with less than 200 words. Gets me in trouble or laughed at. Think "A wise man once said nothing", except I'm not wise.
But OT, what exactly IS the diesel/gas ratio of vehicles in Canada? Is diesel cheaper up there? I guess you guys had no Oldsmobile Diesel Debacle to color the public's image of passenger diesel cars.
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No, we got those. Mercedes and VW already had a decent foothold in the market by the time the Olds disaster happened.
Diesel-powered VW's are still the minority. I have zero market research to back this up, but I would say up until the late '90's, less than a quarter of VW's sold here were diesel. Significantly more now, and by what I see on a daily basis, I would say over a third of MK4's are TDI and close to half of Mk6's are TDI. Mk5 Golfs rarely have TDIs, but the Jettas seem to. Keep in mind that the only cars commonly seen with Diesels here are VW/Audis, Mercedes (and Smarts), and some BMW and Jeep SUVs.
Diesel fuel used to be cheaper than Otto fuel, but surpassed gas around 10 years ago. Now it's hovering roughly $0.10/L higher than gasoline. My last fill up was at $1.399/L. Victoria is slightly below the national average right now.
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no no no, here's the epitomy (http://washingtondc.craigslist.org/nva/cto/3636425694.html)of the problem: a 2004 jetta TDI for just under TWELVE GRAND. Really? how much was the damn thing new?!?
. . . wait, you're in VA too??? Well at least somebody's in hell with me. :P
sorry for the late response. Yes, I live in richmond! That's why I said to let me know before you "scrap" anything else in VA on yer for sale thread :)
It is tough.. i am running an 85 on alt. fuels with no backup plan.. junkyards aren't worth a damn. really sucks.
those links that guy had from victoria made me sick. i coulda got a turbo diesel with half the miles, already rebuilt, for almost the same price.
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1500 is steep for an aaz IMO. Complete tdi swaps are the same price.
thats kinda what im thinking.. you see TDI engines on CL for that much.. sometimes with harness and ECU even!
kinda alot for an engine of unknown history..
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I bought an AHU with a hacked harness but otherwise complete, including ECU for $800 a couple of weeks ago. There was a complete ALH listed on Craigslist for $1100 around the same time... So yeah, I'd have a hard time paying $1500 for an AAZ. I've found a few complete AAZ cars in pretty good shape for around $2K lately.
Eastern Canada is way better for stuff like that too. Here on the west coast cars don't really rust out so there are less trashed bodies with good engines.
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Eastern Canada is way better for stuff like that too.
We AAZ swapped my brothers 84 this past summer. We went and hauled the car out of a field for $300. Got it home, put a battery in it and she fired up like it was running yesterday....... Didn't even loose prime in the fuel system!! It sat for three years!! It had 375,000 kms on it, but it has been a good WOT performer since with no issue. Of course I went over it and did the necessary before the swap. Water pump, timing belt and tensioner, plugs, new pump with performance inspired tuning, oil and coolant, and a new oil pan from sitting in grass..
The car was a write-off, but we threw the old engine in it and scrapped it as a "complete car" and got $275 back.
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I'd over-pay for a TDI A4 Jetta/Golf before I bought 5th or 6th or whatever one. And I don't think I'm the only one that feels that way.
Every TDI on c-list here is $10K+, with a lot more miles. $12K for a pristine, 70K miles example isn't out of line as far as I can tell, it'd be a bargain on the west coast.
KBB out here says $5K and change for an 04 TDI with normal options and 175K on it in Very Good condition. Damned if I'd sell one for that if I had it unless I was desperate.
I'd barely sell my Caddy for that...
Early 05 A4 TDI 5spd was $24K out the door new in central N.C. btw, if you were seriously asking. Buddy of mine just barely got one before the goofy looking model after that came out.
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Well I paid 2k for a rusted 1.6 eco, I'm talking just the engine. I would have much rather had this. I think the company that sold me the eco wants like 3k for a 1.9 aaz. And I would much rather have a mechanical diesel than a tdi. But thats just my opinion. Plus the company i got it from only has 90 day warrenties I couldn't get my swap done that fast, luckaly the engine seems to be fine.
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There's always deals to be had. Some people have a real knack for finding them too. I'm not one of them.
Five or six years ago, I arranged for a buddy of mine to swap a motorcycle with another buddy for his car, which was a 97 540i 6spd, sport package, nice car, never wrecked.
Said motorcycle was a Buell Blast, that was a nice bike, and the car-receiving buddy went out and bought it for $2800 I think it was expressly to trade to the guy for the car.
No secrets, no games, guy with car wanted ready to ride guaranteed good to go bike, so it happened.
So 540i 6spd for $3K out the door.
It happens. But not to me. It's a strange world sometimes.
There's a difference in what one can have if they spend months looking hard for a deal, and what one can buy at will.
I'm sure there are $500 AAZ's out there and $5K A4 TDI's, but not on demand.
Such is life.
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Total agreement there. Looked, what seemed forever, to find an AAZ transplant for my Caddy and finally got fed up & bought one for $2700 + a bunch of new parts in SoCal. Still not done finding all the stuff I need to finish it up. Figure I'll spend an easy 500 -1000 more and not even have a stainless exhaust.
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Everyone is aware that California is why the diesel was gone from the US for a few years in the 90's, right?
They also took the Civic VX down a few notches. You couldn't buy it with a "lean burn" O2 sensor here. That took it from 60 mpg (mine got 61) to around 50.
I love living here, but I'm in the "conservative" part of a state that would cut off its leg to spite a hair on its little toe.
Some of you Canadian's should figure out how to get some of those TDI's and AAZ's here so we can buy them... I'd drive to the border to pick one up...Wouldn't even care if I couldn't register it, as I'd be putting it in something else..
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Screw knack for finding deals, LUCK is the biggest factor I've found around here. Or rather my lack of it.
5K in my performance AAZ build, and still have about 600 more to go. Had to go through 3 turbos, 2 exhaust manifolds, 2 piston sets, 2 heads, 1 intermediate shaft bearing set, 1 machine shop, and am gonna have to bore my crappy block 1MM over after having to wait for pistons to arrive from a whole other continent for the past 3 months.
But couple that to my previous arguments about VW and diesel enthusiasm being thin on the ground around here, I just call it par for the course, especially since this engine isn't even from this country in the first place. At least it makes me hang around this forum more. :)
Like wolf_walker says, such is life.
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Luck indeed. I ain't got much. ;D
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Some of you Canadian's should figure out how to get some of those TDI's and AAZ's here so we can buy them... I'd drive to the border to pick one up...Wouldn't even care if I couldn't register it, as I'd be putting it in something else..
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I drive down to the states with my diesel to buy bikes and things all the time, y'all just gotta be neighbourly and stop on by... ;D
Got my wife's favourite cruiser bike ever on this trip with my club, down in Shoreline, WA...
http://vancouverwheelmen.com/Members/bhughes/photos/2011/2011-03-27