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Title: any success with non VW seats installed?
Post by: JBG3 on February 15, 2013, 02:18:29 pm
Biggest complaint about my mk2 now is generally the seats.  uncomfortable for long trips.  The yard has mk3 and mk4s available, but im curious if anyone has moved seats from another manufacturer over with any success.

The most comfortable long distance seats ive encountered over the years have been volvo seats.  Im thinking I might try and wedge a couple big volvo front seats in somehow
Title: Re: any success with non VW seats installed?
Post by: Sierra94 on February 15, 2013, 02:39:57 pm
I have Volvo 480 sport seats in my Mazda. Very comfortable.
Title: Re: any success with non VW seats installed?
Post by: CRSMP5 on February 15, 2013, 07:23:57 pm
recaro...... only word i say...

mk3 seats = junk... mk2 and old horse hair mk1 last better.. also too wide.. have to be modded...

b3 passat.. not b4.. imo has best stock vw seat.. but again too wide for mk2... b4 crappy material vs b3.. kinda like the cloth to foam just does not stick.. b3 go and go with burn holes and all... never get "loose" on the foam...

newer then that = air bags... so junk yard non blow ones not so simple...
Title: Re: any success with non VW seats installed?
Post by: mystery3 on February 15, 2013, 11:47:30 pm
MkII recaros are pretty great though stupid expensive for a nice set.

Potentially find a set of sport seats from an e30 in the yard? They should fit and have reasonable bolsters and good overall support and adjust-ability, though again buying a good set used is costly. Looked at aftermarket?
Title: Re: any success with non VW seats installed?
Post by: CRSMP5 on February 16, 2013, 05:19:24 am
recaro deals do exist.. just got to watch... i have 2 sets.. 1st i got in 98 in my 84 coupe.. 75$ and other set i got in 09 ish for 150... those in my kubvan now... still need 3d set for my b3 wagon...
Title: Re: any success with non VW seats installed?
Post by: R.O.R-2.0 on February 18, 2013, 03:45:31 pm
Recaro, or german seats are the way to go!!

my GLI has Recaros, and my GTI has german seats..

both are very comfortable on long trips, even with my messed up back..
Title: Re: any success with non VW seats installed?
Post by: 8v-of-fury on February 18, 2013, 09:23:37 pm
What'd you do to your back k3VO?!
Title: Re: any success with non VW seats installed?
Post by: wolf_walker on February 20, 2013, 10:23:51 am
Most of the seats in old cars are worn out.  Even if they have good looking material, at this date the foam is compressed weird and the firmness is wonky and just generally not cool.
Sure everyone has a preference, but I've never met a European car yet (an old one) that didn't have good seats when they were in good order.
Think about new foam and/or having a shop, or you, re-pad them with memory foam.  I did that with the stock one's in my 82 and they are as good as any
I've ever sat in now with the obvious exception of not much in the way of bolsters for cornering. 
Old Volvo's and Mercedes suffer greatly from this as well.  I've known more than a few people that disliked the entire car just because
of worn tired seats, that they didn't know were worn and tired since the covers were so long wearing.
As a general rule, good seats, like tires, aren't cheap.  If you can weld, take some measurements and hit the junkyard and see what there is to be had.
I've seen all sorts of stuff hacked into early VW's.
Title: Re: Re: any success with non VW seats installed?
Post by: shwak23 on February 22, 2013, 12:35:54 pm
MKIII heated leathers out of a GLX
Corrado leathers
Or Scirocco leathers
Are my favorite seats.
BMW recaros are nice as well. Anything with the word Recaros stitched in the back.

Sent from Outer Space!
Title: Re: any success with non VW seats installed?
Post by: scrounger on February 22, 2013, 03:02:51 pm
You guys are pretty wild with your modifications.
My buttocks are pretty insensitive, but my wife seems to find fault in the Mk2 seats.
How about some pictures of your seating?
Title: Re: any success with non VW seats installed?
Post by: R.O.R-2.0 on February 23, 2013, 10:23:54 am
What'd you do to your back k3VO?!

hereditary, car wrecks, more back injuries because of wrecks and other stuff, yadda yadda..
Title: Re: Re: any success with non VW seats installed?
Post by: R.O.R-2.0 on February 23, 2013, 10:24:46 am
MKIII heated leathers out of a GLX
Corrado leathers
Or Scirocco leathers
Are my favorite seats.
BMW recaros are nice as well. Anything with the word Recaros stitched in the back.

Sent from Outer Space!

leather SUCKS when its cold tho...
Title: Re: any success with non VW seats installed?
Post by: CRSMP5 on February 23, 2013, 11:37:42 am
and when hot... i hate leather.. only owned 1 with and never again...

(http://www.crsmp5.com/photos/5_29_11/5.jpg)
Title: Re: any success with non VW seats installed?
Post by: R.O.R-2.0 on February 23, 2013, 12:17:13 pm
and when hot... i hate leather.. only owned 1 with and never again...

(http://www.crsmp5.com/photos/5_29_11/5.jpg)

YEAH BUDDY!!

A2 GTI recaros!!

those ones out of a 4dr GLI?

or are the levers to fold them forwards just not pictured?

the 2dr and 4dr recaros were the same seat, minus the fact that the 2dr seats had the cables and levers for folding the seat forward..

if you manually release the latches, you can even fold the 4dr versions..
Title: Re: any success with non VW seats installed?
Post by: CRSMP5 on February 23, 2013, 02:37:09 pm
 ???  no.. gti have 2 levers per seat.. gli had 1.. all have flip forward levers.. those my 150$ gli set..
Title: Re: any success with non VW seats installed?
Post by: TylerDurden on February 24, 2013, 08:56:11 am
and when hot... i hate leather.. only owned 1 with and never again...

All my Audis had leather... hard in the winter, burning in the summer. Seems kinda pointless if they need to covered with sheepskin.
Title: Re: any success with non VW seats installed?
Post by: mystery3 on February 24, 2013, 01:44:15 pm
I love leather, it's vinyl that's hot as hell in the summer, and it doesn't get cold enough here to worry about ones seats being cold.
Title: Re: any success with non VW seats installed?
Post by: JBG3 on February 28, 2013, 07:13:56 am
You guys are pretty wild with your modifications.
My buttocks are pretty insensitive, but my wife seems to find fault in the Mk2 seats.
How about some pictures of your seating?


I have zero lumbar in either seat anymore.  The lower seat part is good, but right where I need lower back support, its basically like a sheet of fabric with zilch inside.  Its still bad even with a pillow and one of those lumbar screen mesh things jammed in there.  

Passenger seat is the same.  basically, me installing new seats would also make a world of difference to the GF as well.  If she was comfortable, she might overlook the other faults of the vehicle, so for me, as with every interior improvement with this car, its a relationship aid.   ;D

these are the types of seats id like to jam in the car.  super comfortable 240DL wagon seats, wide, ample, excellent adjustable lumbar, cloth, ect.  Im not racing my car, im driving it long distances, and something like this would be great
Unfortunately, I installed these particular seats in a volvo several years ago.  They were out of an 84 sedan.  The newer seats are just as comfortable IMO, but these are pretty simple.  No armrests, no wiring, they are wider, but id be able to get them really close without the armrests and they would probably fit.  it would be nearly benchlike. 

(http://i1217.photobucket.com/albums/dd387/tinworm2/1989%20volvo%20240DL/001.jpg)
Title: Re: any success with non VW seats installed?
Post by: TylerDurden on February 28, 2013, 07:54:51 am
My sis loved the seats in her 240. (The rest of the car cost us a fortune in repair.)


If you consider later VW... 89 Jetta vs. 03 Jetta:

(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-JTxFCNOm8Fs/US98wXdJP8I/AAAAAAAABEQ/Rw7KHhfJeBY/s800/IMG_9260.JPG)

03 has lumbar, seat-tilt, back-tilt.


Title: Re: any success with non VW seats installed?
Post by: wolf_walker on February 28, 2013, 08:31:52 am
Those 240 seats are really excellent for comfort, but you'd never know it sitting in the drivers seat of 90% of them, they are mostly worn out by now.
Luckily the lumbar repair kit is cheap, the lower springs are too, and the foam while not cheap, is available, and they are easy to skin.
I never knew what a good driving car a 240 was till I finally fixed the seat in one. :)
There's a dude on turbobricks with repro seat foam now too.
Title: Re: any success with non VW seats installed?
Post by: 8v-of-fury on February 28, 2013, 09:38:18 pm
I have 91 Golf seats in my 84 Jetta. Very comfortable.

Mk4 seats are extreme comfort, if your already customizing.. why not ! :)
Title: Re: any success with non VW seats installed?
Post by: R.O.R-2.0 on March 01, 2013, 09:09:17 am
I have 91 Golf seats in my 84 Jetta. Very comfortable.

Mk4 seats are extreme comfort, if your already customizing.. why not ! :)

mexican mk2 seats are the DEVIL..
Title: Re: any success with non VW seats installed?
Post by: 8v-of-fury on March 02, 2013, 10:30:54 pm
I have 91 Golf seats in my 84 Jetta. Very comfortable.

Mk4 seats are extreme comfort, if your already customizing.. why not ! :)

mexican mk2 seats are the DEVIL..

All 7 mk1/mk2's I've owned have been German built. 3 mk1, 4 mk2. 6 Jetta, 1 Golf.

The 5 mk3's I've owned were all Hecho en Mehico.. but did not have crappy seats?
Title: Re: any success with non VW seats installed?
Post by: wolf_walker on March 03, 2013, 01:27:43 pm
I had some A3 GTI seats on a stand in my living room as a couch for a few years, they were a bit firm but seemed like decent seats.  One was in an A2 Jetta I had for parts at some point.
Goofy pattern/color but otherwise a nice seat if you like firm.