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Title: centrifuge
Post by: audilvr on January 28, 2013, 05:50:47 am
does anyone have any experience with this unit? thinking about buying it for my wvo.
http://pabiodieselsupply.com/shop/wvo-centrifuge-c-79.html
Title: Re: centrifuge
Post by: 8v-of-fury on January 28, 2013, 09:54:36 am
I have researched it heavily, they seem to be the absolute best industry leaders.
Title: Re: centrifuge
Post by: wdkingery on January 28, 2013, 12:15:32 pm
I have researched it heavily, they seem to be the absolute best industry leaders.

i too have spent some time looking for a spinner, and most people go to that him. good prices too.

i guess since you are already purchasing, you already have yer plans together, but mine included using a power steering pump off an old f250 diesel, spun by a free washing machine motor (behind your local lowe's or homo depot they have a tractor-trailer full of used appliances, go rob one of those in the night of it's washing machine motor)

then you can plug this rig into the wall and let it spin.. as the fluid warms, you'll need to turn the pressure back up to 90 psi.

but this makes the whole gig free, minus the spinner you linked, and the cost of the electricity to run the washing machine motor
Title: Re: centrifuge
Post by: TylerDurden on January 28, 2013, 02:06:17 pm
WVO will also need heat before sending to the centrifuge.
Title: Re: centrifuge
Post by: 8v-of-fury on January 28, 2013, 02:56:19 pm
They sell an entire kit, and for the price.. it seems damn worth it. All you need to supply is the drum.
Title: Re: centrifuge
Post by: shorttimer on January 28, 2013, 11:18:13 pm
I did a bunch of searching around. Narrowed it down to PAdiesel. Then I gave him a call. Super nice guy on the phone. Was glad to answer anything I asked. I plan on doing business with him this year. I believe using a centrifuge is the best & easiest way to get the oil it's cleanest. And yes, using heated oil is the way to do it.
Title: Re: centrifuge
Post by: wdkingery on January 29, 2013, 07:17:46 pm
I did a bunch of searching around. Narrowed it down to PAdiesel. Then I gave him a call. Super nice guy on the phone. Was glad to answer anything I asked. I plan on doing business with him this year. I believe using a centrifuge is the best & easiest way to get the oil it's cleanest. And yes, using heated oil is the way to do it.

What will you be spinning up?
Title: Re: centrifuge
Post by: shorttimer on January 29, 2013, 09:54:14 pm
I recently made a connection with a local eatery who uses Veggie oil. I ran used Veggie oil, with much luck, thru the 90s, filtered but not heated. And I might add, not well filtered. Never had a known problem. So much water has passed the bridge since then & we all know lots more now in regards to using alternative oils. Mainly heating well filtered oils before going into the IP. I have never tried, but have been told, that ATF also makes good alternative fuel. Would like to know more on that subject. I plan on doing it right this time.
Title: Re: centrifuge
Post by: audilvr on January 30, 2013, 03:52:29 am
i'm not sure what i'll be using for a pump but i'm planning to keep the oil in a drum painted black to heat it and pump it into another drum for storage. i like the ps pump idea, i have a few on hand.
Title: Re: centrifuge
Post by: wdkingery on January 31, 2013, 10:51:04 am
I have never tried, but have been told, that ATF also makes good alternative fuel.

Yes, ATF is the go-to alt fuel indeed.  The only trick about ATF (i just found out 30 gallons ago) is make sure to filter down to 1 micron.  i got in a filter pickle and chose not to filter for about 10 gallons ATF, and it caused my IP to pass a kidney stone.  but it survived.

But it will run on pure used ATF.  It likes it better than motor oil (idk anything about wvo)

If you search around, i've got various posts in random places with my experience. i've got thru over 200 gallons of mainly motor oil, but ATF as well.
Title: Re: centrifuge
Post by: srgtlord on January 31, 2013, 11:07:06 am
OR you could skip spending hours filtering fuel and just fill up at the pump ;)
Title: Re: centrifuge
Post by: tyb525 on January 31, 2013, 11:14:59 am
OR you could skip spending hours filtering fuel and just fill up at the pump ;)

OR you could put to use some of your free time and make your own fuel that costs vastly less than at the pump!
Title: Re: centrifuge
Post by: wdkingery on January 31, 2013, 11:53:29 am
vastly less

I am down to almost free.. in fact, i haven't added paid fuel in 3 fill ups.

bonus: when i don't spend money at the pump, i am not sending dollars to support terrorism or islam
Title: Re: centrifuge
Post by: audilvr on January 31, 2013, 12:07:09 pm
not to mention, some of us have more time than money...every little bit helps.
Title: Re: centrifuge
Post by: wdkingery on January 31, 2013, 01:54:09 pm
not to mention, some of us have more time than money...every little bit helps.

3rd year engineering school, you are preaching to the choir!
Title: Re: centrifuge
Post by: ORCoaster on February 02, 2013, 07:10:09 pm
WDK,  3rd year eh?  only 2 more to go then.  Once out you are seriously going to have to upgrade your transpo.  My engineering family members choke on the fact that I drive what I do but I point out all the engineering upgrades, heated WVO, headers, new seats, engine rebuilds and you know what I get?   "You shouldn't be driving such a POS"  Well maybe not but it sure is fun doing it. 

Maybe you could just jump up a decade and keep in the VW line.  Although I doubt you would be feeding it the steady diet of WMO and ATF. 
Title: Re: centrifuge
Post by: audilvr on February 02, 2013, 07:25:01 pm
newer isn't always better....
Title: Re: centrifuge
Post by: 8v-of-fury on February 02, 2013, 07:37:12 pm
With volkswagen it is ;) until like 2006. Haha
Title: Re: centrifuge
Post by: wdkingery on February 02, 2013, 07:37:21 pm
WDK,  3rd year eh?  only 2 more to go then. 

Yes indeed! Half way there!

But as for upgrading my transportation, I'll be riding a bike after college, as I'm leaving the country, and where I'm going they ride bikes, cause gas is $9.50 a gallon!
Title: Re: centrifuge
Post by: ORCoaster on February 02, 2013, 08:13:21 pm
They got waste oils?  Time for a technology transfer.
Title: Re: centrifuge
Post by: bbob203 on February 03, 2013, 06:46:43 am
vastly less

I am down to almost free.. in fact, i haven't added paid fuel in 3 fill ups.

bonus: when i don't spend money at the pump, i am not sending dollars to support terrorism or FAKE islam
Title: Re: centrifuge
Post by: theman53 on February 03, 2013, 09:08:26 am
With volkswagen it is ;) until like 2006. Haha
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M5QGkOGZubQ&feature=player_embedded

I think the ALH was a great engine, but the rest of the post mk3 era could have been improved...except for safety and rust protection, they did good there in the MK4
Title: Re: centrifuge
Post by: ToddA1 on February 03, 2013, 12:16:52 pm
For those of you that run alternative fuels, how much time do you invest weekly?  Collecting would obviously be part of the time.

How much do you process, at a time?

I looked at this years ago, and realized my free time was more valuable than somewhat free fuel.

-Todd
Title: Re: centrifuge
Post by: shorttimer on February 03, 2013, 05:59:53 pm
I can only speak for myself as in regards to free time. Back in 97, when I first started using veggie oil, I was only 50. Now, years later, & so much more info on the subject, it only takes a fraction of the time to process the oil, but spending more time 'looking' for it, where as it was plentiful/easy before. The set up obviously takes some time to get right. But everything is so available if you're willing to spend a little $. Getting the vehicle rigged is more time well spent. But it's more or less a one time deal & then 'use'. Some of us got to where we're at without getting a pension or big retirement so we have to make due with the resources we have. I think the centrifuge is the best filtering tool we have & it's not hard to set up and in the long run only costs a few pennies to the dollar. It can be working while I'm doing other things around the house.
Title: Re: centrifuge
Post by: 8v-of-fury on February 03, 2013, 06:05:28 pm
It can be working while I'm doing other things around the house.

Exactly, dump it in. Turn it on, and let her go.
Title: Re: centrifuge
Post by: wdkingery on February 04, 2013, 02:57:13 pm
For those of you that run alternative fuels, how much time do you invest weekly?  Collecting would obviously be part of the time.

How much do you process, at a time?

I looked at this years ago, and realized my free time was more valuable than somewhat free fuel.

-Todd


I gather my fuel in one lump sum (hundreds of gallons at once) it takes a few hours, but lasts for months.

i use a $5 filter bag that lasts for that hundreds of gallons.

I filter about 1 tank (10 gallons) at once.


I don't really spend a lot of time working on it. less than an hour a week. collection time can burn a day, but that day only happens every few months.  If it's warm outside it takes less time.  But that's assuming i can get a few hundred gallons at once.  If i am down to begging for oil changes, or only getting 5 gallons here and 5 gallons there, time can quickly become a problem.  putting an ad on craigslist is key to big numbers, as someone is going around to all the local shops and paying $1.40 a gallon for the used motor oil, so the big "restaurants" for me are off limits (i don't pay)