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Title: WTB: 1.6 clutch kit and rotary vacuum pump
Post by: damac on January 08, 2013, 01:36:39 am
I need a good working vacuum pump, maybe 2.

Also need a clutch kit for another engine and wouldn't mind saving on something that is new or close to new, otherwise I will just place an online order.  thanks!
Title: Re: WTB: 1.6 clutch kit and rotary vacuum pump
Post by: 92EcoDiesel Jetta on January 08, 2013, 08:31:09 am
Why just rotary? A diaphragm pump is easy and cheap to rebuild and works just as well to produce vacuum.
Title: Re: WTB: 1.6 clutch kit and rotary vacuum pump
Post by: Blue Haze on January 08, 2013, 09:02:51 am
I have a 210 mm Clutchnet Stage 2 disk and Pressure plate I can't use.  It is new.  I paid $399 for it and will sell for $200.
Title: Re: WTB: 1.6 clutch kit and rotary vacuum pump
Post by: damac on January 08, 2013, 09:36:07 am
I have a 210 mm Clutchnet Stage 2 disk and Pressure plate I can't use.  It is new.  I paid $399 for it and will sell for $200.

thanks for offer, i just need a stock replacement with stock cars, never had an issue with them?

as far as the other vacuum pumps, i do have those and maybe i should look into it.  all my rotary pumps for whatever reason are screwed up?  scoring at the top inside and the lids?  i also had one lock up on me the other day!
Title: Re: WTB: 1.6 clutch kit and rotary vacuum pump
Post by: 8v-of-fury on January 08, 2013, 09:46:00 am
Don't waste the money on rebuilding the old diaphragms just source a rotary. All diesels from 86-98 for sure should be the pump you are looking for.. 99 (ALH) went to a completely different style.
Title: Re: WTB: 1.6 clutch kit and rotary vacuum pump
Post by: libbydiesel on January 08, 2013, 01:10:36 pm
The 1.6 and 1.9 rotary pumps do not interchange.  They have different o-ring setup and different gear size.  
Title: Re: WTB: 1.6 clutch kit and rotary vacuum pump
Post by: 8v-of-fury on January 08, 2013, 04:12:21 pm
Learn something new erry'day. Thank-you sir.
Title: Re: WTB: 1.6 clutch kit and rotary vacuum pump
Post by: 92EcoDiesel Jetta on January 09, 2013, 08:58:01 am
Don't waste the money on rebuilding the old diaphragms just source a rotary. All diesels from 86-98 for sure should be the pump you are looking for.. 99 (ALH) went to a completely different style.

Please explain why. I kinda like the ease and how cheap it is ($10 1/2 hour) to replace a diaphragm. What am I missing?
Title: Re: WTB: 1.6 clutch kit and rotary vacuum pump
Post by: 8v-of-fury on January 09, 2013, 09:01:21 am
Spend $25 (or whatever a rotary costs) and never take it out again? ;)
Title: Re: WTB: 1.6 clutch kit and rotary vacuum pump
Post by: fatmobile on January 09, 2013, 10:25:04 pm
He has some and they might not even need a diaphram.
 They work just as well and aren't effected by low oil pressure.

 Problem with the diaphram style is how the gear wears into the brass bushing on the bottom of the pump.
 As it wears, it gets farther from the oil pump.
 The slot and splines start to 'ramp" and shove hard against each other as they turn.

 The bushing inside the pump is the same and doesn't wear so it can be swapped to renew the brass bushing.
If you can get the pin out of the gear.

 ...and I find new 200mm clutches for sale on the vortex.
 I do like the 210mm ones because my 200mm ones have been slipping in the TDs.
Title: Re: WTB: 1.6 clutch kit and rotary vacuum pump
Post by: 92EcoDiesel Jetta on January 11, 2013, 09:02:33 am
I have a 210 mm Clutchnet Stage 2 disk and Pressure plate I can't use.  It is new.  I paid $399 for it and will sell for $200.

thanks for offer, i just need a stock replacement with stock cars, never had an issue with them?

as far as the other vacuum pumps, i do have those and maybe i should look into it.  all my rotary pumps for whatever reason are screwed up?  scoring at the top inside and the lids?  i also had one lock up on me the other day!

Is the rotary pump scoring and lock up a common problem? What's the cause? Anyway to check the pump out without disassembling it?
Title: Re: WTB: 1.6 clutch kit and rotary vacuum pump
Post by: 92EcoDiesel Jetta on January 11, 2013, 09:07:05 am
He has some and they might not even need a diaphram.
 They work just as well and aren't effected by low oil pressure.

 Problem with the diaphram style is how the gear wears into the brass bushing on the bottom of the pump.
 As it wears, it gets farther from the oil pump.
 The slot and splines start to 'ramp" and shove hard against each other as they turn.

 The bushing inside the pump is the same and doesn't wear so it can be swapped to renew the brass bushing.
If you can get the pin out of the gear.

 ...and I find new 200mm clutches for sale on the vortex.
 I do like the 210mm ones because my 200mm ones have been slipping in the TDs.

How do you check the brass bushing on bottom of pump for wear? Just wiggle the gear and feel for play? How about the slot? What should a good one look like? Any pics?
Title: Re: WTB: 1.6 clutch kit and rotary vacuum pump
Post by: masterbeavis on January 11, 2013, 08:37:54 pm
I have a NOS Sachs 200mm clutch disc and my old pressure plate that I removed when the output shaft seal went bad on the tranny. It is a low mileage VW unit that I did not bother re-using because my new clutch had it. $20 plus the ride.
Title: Re: WTB: 1.6 clutch kit and rotary vacuum pump
Post by: fatmobile on January 13, 2013, 11:01:05 pm
He has some and they might not even need a diaphram.
 They work just as well and aren't effected by low oil pressure.

 Problem with the diaphram style is how the gear wears into the brass bushing on the bottom of the pump.
 As it wears, it gets farther from the oil pump.
 The slot and splines start to 'ramp" and shove hard against each other as they turn.

 The bushing inside the pump is the same and doesn't wear so it can be swapped to renew the brass bushing.
If you can get the pin out of the gear.

 ...and I find new 200mm clutches for sale on the vortex.
 I do like the 210mm ones because my 200mm ones have been slipping in the TDs.

How do you check the brass bushing on bottom of pump for wear? Just wiggle the gear and feel for play? How about the slot? What should a good one look like? Any pics?

It's a thrust bearing so you can see if the gear is wearing into it.
 The slot should wear like a bow tie normally  but if this is starting to ramp so the 2 push against each other it can push up into the bushing as they get farther apart.
Title: Re: WTB: 1.6 clutch kit and rotary vacuum pump
Post by: dieselherb1 on January 14, 2013, 04:47:52 am
I have several pumps from 98 Jettas, $60 shipped
Title: Re: WTB: 1.6 clutch kit and rotary vacuum pump
Post by: Zaro on January 14, 2013, 06:21:48 am
I have a few late model proper 1.6td vacuum pumps. 1.9td will not work. I'll ship one to ya. $40 plus shipping?
Title: Re: WTB: 1.6 clutch kit and rotary vacuum pump
Post by: R.O.R-2.0 on January 14, 2013, 07:53:04 am
I have several pumps from 98 Jettas, $60 shipped

1.9 pumps wont fit 1.6s...