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General Information => General => Topic started by: scrounger on December 20, 2012, 03:26:40 pm
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We had a holiday trip planned today. About 180 miles.
Now we're having 48-55 mph winds after 5 inches of snow.
Maybe we can get out tomorrow or Saturday.
(http://veloliner.com/vw/blizjetta.JPG)
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Gettin a dumping in MO.. South Central Ontario has nothing :(
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Ontario eh
You just wait.....:)
The house has just now stopped shaking. The gusts are now down under 40 mph.
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Wanna know what we got right now? It rained all day, then dropped below freezing when the sun went down. now its a light dusting on top of it.
I'm in drifting heaven, went out and saw a lot of people of the roads.. as I went by them slideways lmao
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Keep up your hand brake turns.
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Keep up your hand brake turns.
Most see it as reckless driving, I see it as having the utmost confidence in my cars abilities. A hand brake slide/turn has saved me more than a few times in some hairy situations.
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I bought a new 73 toyota. One of the first mods was to turn the handbrake paw around so that you had to push in the button to lock it.
I have not done the mod much recently but it makes for a nice antitheft device. The harder you push the brake release in, the tighter it gets.
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I think it's important to go and intentionally slide your car around in a safe area. I initially did it for fun but its kept me from wrecking my car many times because I knew how to handle my car sliding around.
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I think it's important to go and intentionally slide your car around in a safe area. I initially did it for fun but its kept me from wrecking my car many times because I knew how to handle my car sliding around.
Precisely. I know the limits, how is that reckless? Reckless is not having a damn clue.. but the general public follows the dont have a clue.. so they see it as reckless lmao.
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I have done stuff in my vehicles that made a girl literally pee her pants, while driving too. I do likewise to get used to slick conditions by driving in an open space. The main factor for me is I loathe ABS. I cannot go into a controlled 4 wheel slide and come out of it like I like to when a car has ABS.
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Haha my friends 2009 GMC Sierra has traction and stabili-trac that you cannot disable. It tells you that you can, but only to a degree.. it still has full control.
He can't do anything with it, its a slug all the time because of it.. and is absolutely no fun.
ABS? Traction? Stabili-Trac? Power Steering even!?
What are these things? lol
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What is real handy is a fly off handbrake
Here is a link to one design.http://www.spridgetguru.com/TA0024.html
It does not reduce any utility of your hand brake but makes it very easy to use to slide the rear wheels.
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I think it's important to go and intentionally slide your car around in a safe area. I initially did it for fun but its kept me from wrecking my car many times because I knew how to handle my car sliding around.
Agreed. Empty parking lots are ideal, and in Ontario it's not illegal either which is cool. If the cops come the most they can do is tell you to leave (last I checked, don't hold me to that). First snow fall of every year I like to get out and practice up.
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Well yeah at that point it is a private parking lot where they have no traffic authority. The most they can do, legally, is ask you to leave. But even then, do they have the right? its not their property and your doing nothing illegal?
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We never see any law enforcement on our roads. They are 40 minutes away if you really need them. Better carry some fire power for the zombies.
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Dang 40 minutes really?! Possibly why Americans get away with anything and are gone 38 minutes before the po-po show up lol.
I live in Orillia, Where I have to contend with the Ontario Provincial Police's headquarters.. No lie. A 3:1 cop:person ratio in my town.
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Yes at night there is only one county cruiser on duty. They never go on the gravel roads. Our county is about 24 miles on a side. There are two state highways going through the county One is about 6 miles away but the state boys stay on that.
The county encourages us to be prepared and issue carry licenses to anyone who doesn't have a conviction or mental record. Truly most people are very friendly and nice. The places where people live in fear are usually places where they have to depend on the police to draw chalk lines around the corpse.
My wife just read this and told me that she once saw a sheriff's vehicle go down the road.
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We never see any law enforcement on our roads. They are 40 minutes away if you really need them. Better carry some fire power for the zombies.
about the same here. If you want to do something around here you go for it. Luckily most people around here know of a thing called individual responsibility and don't commit nasty crimes. If I had to rely on the police the average responce time when I have called is approx 58 minutes.
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Holy crap. I have done something outside that my neighbours didn't like.. and the cops were here before I got inside the house.
That is including time on the phone with the dispatch! :( LOL
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Neighbors? We have some about a mile to the east. Mile and a half to the north and south and a half mile to the west.
Probably that is why I am as self sufficient as I am. Seems like on almost every post someone says: You can buy that do-dad after I just built one.
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Lmfao. Yup that'd make sense. I live in the rich area of a small town, borderline city. 39,000 or so.
But still an hour and half north of Toronto.
So your 180mile road trip was just the drive to the nearest City eh? ;)
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Still you have a 29 year old car :)
We are about 180 from st louis and 150 from KC.
The nearest VW dealer is 75 miles.
We live on a farm. Plenty of places to play off road. Four wheel drive tractor. Mtn bikes, dirt bikes, Forest management stuff.
Lmfao. Yup that'd make sense. I live in the rich area of a small town, borderline city. 39,000 or so.
But still an hour and half north of Toronto.
So your 180mile road trip was just the drive to the nearest City eh? ;)
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That sounds pretty damn awesome man. I can dig it. I love riding ATV's and driving tractors. I am not a city boy, but compared to you and theman53 I am lol.
I have four cars in my driveway older than 1990. And one on my garage older than 1970. My neighbours have despised me and my family since we moved in 8 years ago ;).
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If you want to live in the country work towards it. Join in the fun.
We have but 2 cars, two trucks, two tractors, about 15 motorcycles, except for our dirt bikes they are all 70's and 80's and a bunch of bicycles, Things with small motors and lots of things that burn various powders.
Our neighbors live similarly except for the Amish. They can have motors but no rubber tires.
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btw the weather is moderating. The wind is down to 29mph and the temp is 21F.
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Sounds like my kind of day :)
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I have done stuff in my vehicles that made girl literally pee her pants, while driving too. I do likewise to get used to slick conditions
That made me chuckle. You do like the girl and pee your pants to get used to slick conditions?? :o :P
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Unintentional humour. ;) he is a grown man, but hey.. To each his own.
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I have done stuff in my vehicles that made girl literally pee her pants, while driving too. I do likewise to get used to slick conditions
That made me chuckle. You do like the girl and pee your pants to get used to slick conditions?? :o :P
I actually messed that one up, but now see how it is funny. LOL
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We had a holiday trip planned today. About 180 miles.
Now we're having 48-55 mph winds after 5 inches of snow.
Maybe we can get out tomorrow or Saturday.
(http://veloliner.com/vw/blizjetta.JPG)
That spaceship looks like its ready to blast off to mars. :D I dig t.
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I think it's important to go and intentionally slide your car around in a safe area. I initially did it for fun but its kept me from wrecking my car many times because I knew how to handle my car sliding around.
Yes this definitely saved me 100's of times i once even spun 3 times on a road and recovered from hitting a pole all cuz i knew how to handle the car from screwing around in parking lots so much.
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I will also agree that parking lot drifting and driving helped me out in my 2 and a half years as a pizza delivery man During the New England winters.
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For you guys serious about rear wheel steering. Be able to turn around in your own lane. Of course you can always use the hand brake without mod but you need to keep your thumb on the button 100% of the time.
Here's a simple drawing on how to convert your emergency brake to a fly-off.
(http://veloliner.com/vw/flyoff.JPG)
Basically you take out the paw, rebend the control rod, drill a new hole in the paw. Reassemble.
I haven't done it on my vw yet.
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For you guys serious about rear wheel steering. Be able to turn around in your own lane. Of course you can always use the hand brake without mod but you need to keep your thumb on the button 100% of the time.
Here's a simple drawing on how to convert your emergency brake to a fly-off.
(http://veloliner.com/vw/flyoff.JPG)
Basically you take out the paw, rebend the control rod, drill a new hole in the paw. Reassemble.
I haven't done it on my vw yet.
PAWL...
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Paul??
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Dawg...
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Snoop?
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woodstock?
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WoodStock... I was born in the wrong decade. That would have been the best thing in the entire millennium.
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was WoodStock that fley or was he a pubic lice that went about on a motorbike ??
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was WoodStock that fley or was he a pubic lice that went about on a motorbike ??
woodstock was the biggest hippy gathering of the 60s..
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I was going with snoopy's best friend.
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the yellow fley i see , he was a hippy and he done a big rave in the 60s.. cool i would of loved to go to that , was the yellow fley on LSD and had a bad trip :-*
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Tried some parking lot fun last night on our first snow fall in over a year. The mk3 just didn't want to slide for me, it has brand new tires and is much heavier than the mk1s usually play in so I guess that's why I had no luck. Pretty disappointing but I guess it just means I am much safer
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Tried some parking lot fun last night on our first snow fall in over a year. The mk3 just didn't want to slide for me, it has brand new tires and is much heavier than the mk1s usually play in so I guess that's why I had no luck. Pretty disappointing but I guess it just means I am much safer
the mk2 and mk3 disk brake rear beams dont lock up as easy as drum beams..
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If anything disk's should lock up WAY easier, they are after all a much better brake design.
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Discs don't self-energize, drums do.
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Discs don't self-energize, drums do.
This matters because??
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It matters because in order to spin around like a top by pulling the E brake the wheels have to come to a stop in back and not so much in front. Will discs in the rear allow that to happen? Doesn't appear so from what I was reading. Hence no fun factor? Safer but boring.
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i think i prefer the drums in the back, they are cheaper to maintain and do not have the ebrake freezing problem, not that i care much either way
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It matters because in order to spin around like a top by pulling the E brake the wheels have to come to a stop in back and not so much in front. Will discs in the rear allow that to happen? Doesn't appear so from what I was reading. Hence no fun factor? Safer but boring.
Hmm. Well all the disk brake cars I have driven can do that on pavement, whereas the drums can't. I honestly don't see how drums lock up better.
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disks on the rear suck , drums give beter H brake and are beter for hand brake turns
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properly working drums lock up just fine going down the road, i haven't tried these discs yet
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I've never been able to lock up my rear drums on anything but snow or gravel. Even wet pavement doesn't do it.
This even after I redid all the braking components with new, and adjusted properly.
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disks on the rear suck , drums give beter H brake and are beter for hand brake turns
ive always had better luck with drum brakes..
all the drum cars ive had, the e-brake will lock going down the highway.
the disk cars wont even come close to that..
disk e-brakes hold you better on a hill, but wont spin you around in the middle of the road..
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I've never been able to lock up my rear drums on anything but snow or gravel. Even wet pavement doesn't do it.
This even after I redid all the braking components with new, and adjusted properly.
it seems even one minor part being bad on them keeps them from working properly while the car will stop flawlessly. not much of a problem i think i can completely rebuild them for about 30 bucks a side haha.
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A few days ago, I did a hand brake turn after missing an exit on snow covered two lane road and did spin around. It worked great as usual. A couple of days later I had the car up on a stand and the right rear wheel didn't have any ebrake, I was locking only the inside wheel. Might be nice to have two handles, right and left.
Seems like it always something, keeps the antique vw experience interesting.
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By design, drum brakes lock up better than disc brakes. They are designed so the harder you push on the brake, the harder they engage. They are somewhat self-engaging, when the shoes contact the drum, they get "pulled" into the drum even harder, if they are working right.
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By design, drum brakes lock up better than disc brakes. They are designed so the harder you push on the brake, the harder they engage. They are somewhat self-engaging, when the shoes contact the drum, they get "pulled" into the drum even harder, if they are working right.
Yeah they're really not the antiquity alot of people seem to think, not when they're on the back anyway
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Yeah I'm not a fan of drums on the front, the reason being that they can be a pain to get adjusted equally so they don't pull left or right when you brake. Plus they do lock up easier which is especially bad on the front.