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Title: Pitted water pump flange on block - remedy?
Post by: TylerDurden on November 25, 2012, 05:00:05 pm
Right where the o-ring will sit, is a fair amount of pitting.

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I'm not sure I want to sand it down that much. I also think putting RTV on an o-ring is way ghetto.

Any other tips, tricks, solutions?

Thx.
Title: Re: Pitted water pump flange on block - remedy?
Post by: 8v-of-fury on November 25, 2012, 05:30:34 pm
Light smearing of JB and then sand down smooth?

I would just RTV it and call it a day. You're not taking it back off for any normal reason anytime soon, so who cares? lol
Title: Re: Pitted water pump flange on block - remedy?
Post by: Gizmoman on November 25, 2012, 06:32:35 pm
Use quality RTV with a putty knife so there's "just enough" to create a smooth surface. Then let it nearly set up - nothing ghetto about that.

JB weld is ghetto IMHO and theres no telling how it will seal (against the steel) once it gets heated and cooled a few hundred times. It would probably work - just not what I would do.
Title: Re: Pitted water pump flange on block - remedy?
Post by: burn_your_money on November 25, 2012, 07:39:58 pm
Use quality RTV with a putty knife so there's "just enough" to create a smooth surface. Then let it nearly set up - nothing ghetto about that.

Agreed. Or just give the o-ring an even, light covering of RTV and then install it but wait a few hours before you add any coolant.
Title: Re: Pitted water pump flange on block - remedy?
Post by: audilvr on November 25, 2012, 08:47:14 pm
jb weld and coolant do not mix. it reacts badly over time.
Title: Re: Pitted water pump flange on block - remedy?
Post by: theman53 on November 25, 2012, 09:25:52 pm
I would sand the block. Not too much, but enough so the pitting wasn't bad and the overall height wasn't taken down to the point other things would be in the way of the water pump housing.
Title: Re: Pitted water pump flange on block - remedy?
Post by: libbydiesel on November 25, 2012, 09:46:30 pm
JB Weld works fine with coolant long term.  I've used it specifically for that exact issue several times and it's worked great.  You need to make sure the block is totally clean and then putty knife it on and hand lap it off with sandpaper and a flat behind it.  Works excellently. 
Title: Re: Pitted water pump flange on block - remedy?
Post by: TylerDurden on November 25, 2012, 11:06:04 pm
Thanks for the advice, everyone.

I will do a bit of each.  j/k


I'm sure any of the above suggestions will be more than adequate.
Title: Re: Pitted water pump flange on block - remedy?
Post by: bbob203 on November 26, 2012, 07:18:38 am
I sanded mine down good. cleaned it well lubed up the oring and torqued it down. no problems here.
Title: Re: Pitted water pump flange on block - remedy?
Post by: srgtlord on November 26, 2012, 07:48:41 am
I left it alone and put a new o-ring on. No leaks in the 30,000 I replaced it.
Title: Re: Pitted water pump flange on block - remedy?
Post by: RabbitJockey on November 26, 2012, 11:57:12 am
it is amazing what an oring will seal against some times, i've done nothing and i've also smeared silicone on there, both worked fine, the silicone is more peace of mind tho.
Title: Re: Pitted water pump flange on block - remedy?
Post by: jboogie13 on November 26, 2012, 01:08:54 pm
it is amazing what an oring will seal against some times, i've done nothing and i've also smeared silicone on there, both worked fine, the silicone is more peace of mind tho.

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Title: Re: Pitted water pump flange on block - remedy?
Post by: damac on November 27, 2012, 04:34:31 am
Interesting I have never seen that much wear on any of the engines I got. Never anything to make me think twice about just using the oring?  I sure have seen globs of red rtv all around that darn oring on used engines.

Does anybody else like that copper rtv spray?   Mask things off, shake it good and a couple light coats.  I have used it on stuff like my old 2 stroke dirtbike head gaskets and it seems to do well.
Title: Re: Pitted water pump flange on block - remedy?
Post by: R.O.R-2.0 on November 27, 2012, 02:10:20 pm
Use quality RTV with a putty knife so there's "just enough" to create a smooth surface. Then let it nearly set up - nothing ghetto about that.

Agreed. Or just give the o-ring an even, light covering of RTV and then install it but wait a few hours before you add any coolant.

this is what i do, and ive seen alot worse than that, and still had it seal up nicely..

even tho there is an o-ring between the block and wp housing, i still use a light smear of RVT on both sides..