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General Information => General => Topic started by: bbob203 on August 16, 2012, 09:22:34 am
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Has anyone ever seen this car? I saw it on some forum a few years back. Im trying to find it but can't.
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Dude, a VW diesel in ANYTHING is freeekin awesome!
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Pretty sure it's a TDI on tdiclub, but I could be mistaken.
It's a swap I've thought of doing many times...
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why use such a SH!**Y car to start with tho?
they are cheap throw away cars..
just swap the drivetrain to a new shell every few years?
disposable car?
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For a gas car it still got 40mpg at least the 3 i owned.
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For a gas car it still got 40mpg at least the 3 i owned.
they are made from PLASTIC, what do you expect?!?!
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If you're going to do it at least throw it in a first generation neon.
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Funny thing is I scooped up a first gen saturn wagon for $200 bucks a few weeks ago and have been thinking about the same thing...
why use such a SH!**Y car to start with tho?
they are cheap throw away cars..
just swap the drivetrain to a new shell every few years?
disposable car?
Pending on what neck of the woods you are in, shells are not all that easy to come by.. It seems that MK1 and 2 VW's gas or diesel are grabbing at least a grand with a good body and not necessarily running..
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I think he meant buying a new saturn shell every couple years and moving the vw drivetrain?
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I'm feeling the same way... A Saturn? What turd polishing... Saturns have been the least comfortable cars I've ever been in. And my VW isn't all that comfortable. But they were designed with user maintenance in mind, and I'm not convinced that my VW was. And I was honestly kind of sad to see them go. It amazed me that GM was never able to profit from a product line that was popular, at least around here, where practically nobody buys "domestic" cars. And I need to start exporting rust-free shells if they're fetching that much.
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I probably logged at least 150000 miles in mine over 6 years. never broke down bad except when I blew a headgasket close to home being a dumbass. always got great mileage. they were reletively inexpensive to maintain. boring to drive though for sure. great highway cars .
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My friend's dad used to work at Saturn so it's all he drove. I always liked the cars. Sure they aren't anything special but if a gasser can get that kind of mileage, it really makes me wonder what a diesel would get in there.
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Why do you guys hate on Saturn for being a throw-away car? Do you think our beloved Volkswagen's were designed for anything more? LOL.
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Why do you guys hate on Saturn for being a throw-away car? Do you think our beloved Volkswagen's were designed for anything more? LOL.
Germans design their disposable cars better than Americans.
My mom had a saturn for a while, it was ok and got decent mileage for a v6.
I put over 200k of absolute abuse on a dodge neon before I got rear-ended. Those things handle very well stock and will pretty much spank any saturn or cavalier. The interior and paint do leave much to be desired though e
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I think this may be the link you're looking for:
http://forums.tdiclub.com/showthread.php?s=c12bd13b3d27b60a3674172e5bcb3907&t=193909 (http://forums.tdiclub.com/showthread.php?s=c12bd13b3d27b60a3674172e5bcb3907&t=193909)
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Why do you guys hate on Saturn for being a throw-away car? Do you think our beloved Volkswagen's were designed for anything more? LOL.
Disposable after 5 is different than after 25. The American/German difference
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Saturns were a decent little car until they got mashed in with the other GM corperate junk in the late 90's.. (The L series aka Malipoo) Still terribly boring to drive though.. The real Saturns are just hitting the 20 year mark, and much like our VW's the ones that were cared for are still going strong.. I can't really say that the European throwaways (or high end stuff for that matter) were really engineered that much better, but they do receive a lot more love... I drove a Crown Vic for close 350K and never replaced anything but tuneup parts, tires, brakes and shocks.. The alternator finally went so the car went too..
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I think he meant buying a new saturn shell every couple years and moving the vw drivetrain?
yup..
keep the drivetrain VAG, and just swap it into a different disposable shell every couple years..
screw maintenance, just replace the whole car, and keep the engine!!
lmfao..
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Funny thing is I scooped up a first gen saturn wagon for $200 bucks a few weeks ago and have been thinking about the same thing...
Pending on what neck of the woods you are in, shells are not all that easy to come by.. It seems that MK1 and 2 VW's gas or diesel are grabbing at least a grand with a good body and not necessarily running..
I think only a wagon could pull that off. go for it
I'm gonna put a 1.6 in the benz, will it still be able to go four wheelin?
(http://img835.imageshack.us/img835/4387/img20120812093924.jpg)
(http://img708.imageshack.us/img708/762/img20120812093734.jpg)
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Hey I know that Observation point. Biscuit Fire in middle of the Wilderness? Oh, roads in Wilderness kind of a conflict there eh?
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nope. top of mount ashland, seven thousand something. that's the doppler. The other picture is looking south towards the trinity mountains in CA. Lots of fires out here right now. siskiyou national forest. ;D. It's all national forest roads....people expect a big ol truck coming and see a shiny benz roll through....hahahahaha :P
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Funny thing is I scooped up a first gen saturn wagon for $200 bucks a few weeks ago and have been thinking about the same thing...
Pending on what neck of the woods you are in, shells are not all that easy to come by.. It seems that MK1 and 2 VW's gas or diesel are grabbing at least a grand with a good body and not necessarily running..
I think only a wagon could pull that off. go for it
I'm gonna put a 1.6 in the benz, will it still be able to go four wheelin?
(http://img835.imageshack.us/img835/4387/img20120812093924.jpg)
(http://img708.imageshack.us/img708/762/img20120812093734.jpg)
wish i could LIKE this comment!!
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That's one sexy W126.. Had one the same color with Euro spec headlights..
I don't think mounting the VW drive line in the ole 'urn is going to be too difficult.. A cross between MK1 and MK2 mounts should do it.. I wish the car I have had a manual trans though, that'd make things a tad easier I think.. Oh to find the time to git er dun...
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I have thought seriously about getting a Saturn wagon, if I could find one in stick version cheaply. Max, if you do the swap , I hope you document it.
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the forum thread I read on it the guy chopped the axles in half and welded vw inners to saturn outers. that and mounts would be about your only obstacle esp if you ran an 02a it'd be even easier. might have to cut out the oversized saturn engine cradle as well.
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I've looked at various small wagons to do a diesel swap, I've had it down to Saturn and Escort wagons.. Cavalier's are heavier, and a tad harder to find.. Escort wagons aren't terribly cheap around here.. I got the 'urn for $100.. Wasn't crazy about the auto, but the price is right and I know the history of the car.. Well cared for and clean, heck the R12 A/C still works... I'd almost consider putting a new trans to it, but it has a lot of miles, and burns oil...
the forum thread I read on it the guy chopped the axles in half and welded vw inners to saturn outers.
That's sort of what I figured would have to happen.. Didn't think about that massive cradle getting in the way, but I see how it could.. Ideally I need to find a manual trans car to swap some parts from.. I could probably adapt the VW shifter and pedals to work too I suppose.. Probably less work to just find the manual trans parts, or just find a wagon that is already 5 speed..
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Why not get a Fox? That'd be plug n play if I'm not mistaken other than the manifolds, pan and a few other details for mounting inline?
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pretty much every saturn I ever owned 4 of them burned oil like gas... not really but close. you can mitigate some of it by doing a piston soak with mmo ussually can reduce your consumption of oil by half at least for some reason on these cars carbon builds up real easy on the rings and or cylinder walls and causes the rings to not seal as good. no matter how bad a given car burned oil the thibg always got upwards of 38mpg most of the time.
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Why not get a Fox? That'd be plug n play if I'm not mistaken other than the manifolds, pan and a few other details for mounting inline?
In this neck of the woods, A rust bucket Fox (when one surfaces) typically brings about $500 and up.. If it's in tact and doesn't need another grand sunk into it to make the carcass road worthy (before swapping in the diesel) it's a steal at $1000..
I paid $100 bucks for the Saturn.. No rust, clean interior and exterior, everything works except the auto trans.. The lack of rust to begin with is the biggest seller for me. If I'm starting with a rusty car they never get any better...
pretty much every saturn I ever owned 4 of them burned oil like gas...
Valve seals make a world of difference on them too.. Seems like they made them out of crap for a lot of the mid 90's OHC engines...
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Foxes are cheap and predominately rust-free out here. One in reasonable shape with a blown motor or tranny wouldn't set you back more than a couple hundred dollars.
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that's the difference between the west and the rest. The cars out here are in such ridiculously good shape. southwest oregon is kinda like cali. only rust is a little surface on nothing less than thirty years it seems.... ;D Unless it lived at elevation in snow sitting, which doesn't happen :P
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In this neck of the woods, A rust bucket Fox (when one surfaces) typically brings about $500 and up.. If it's in tact and doesn't need another grand sunk into it to make the carcass road worthy (before swapping in the diesel) it's a steal at $1000..
Are you serious?
Foxes are literally worthless on this side of the country. They are cars that people will give away. I have seen clean, running ones offered for $500, and take a long time to sell. I don't know why, maybe because they have a lot of parts that aren't shared with other models and I think getting them to pass smog can be an issue.
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what would it take to shimmy a 1.6 td into a fox wagon?
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You need a few things that are different on the transverse mounted cars, the oilpan, intake and exhaust manifolds, a few other odds and ends and the mounts. Look through vortex for quantum projects, I think there are a couple audi 80/90/100 projects both here and on vortex. It's a parts bin project but not as much custom stuff as it will take to mount one in a saturn.
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In this neck of the woods, A rust bucket Fox (when one surfaces) typically brings about $500 and up.. If it's in tact and doesn't need another grand sunk into it to make the carcass road worthy (before swapping in the diesel) it's a steal at $1000..
Are you serious?
Yup.. Even Mk1 and 2 Rabbits/Jettas/Golfs are scarce.. Rust + High scrap prices cleaned them out.. I give it another few years and the early MKIII stuff should be about gone too (Not necessarily a bad thing)... The high scrap price the last few years has really been the killer... Why bother to try selling something when you can just haul it in and walk away with an easy $400 bucks...
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It rotted out 10 years ago. LMAO
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Heres is the thread on it.
http://forums.tdiclub.com/showthread.php?t=193909
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going mtdi and using a mech clutch this would be darn easy aside fom making some axles work and tossing in a manual rack wich my first saturn had and I didn't even realize until one day I deceided to do a fluid replace and lo and behold no ps ressy. o yea and a little bit of wiring for cooling fans and tach o meter and temp sensor. it would be great at least to me to meld my two favorite autos together.