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Engine Specific Info and Questions => IDI Engine => Topic started by: the4ork on June 02, 2012, 09:32:04 am

Title: Comparison ko3 vs 1.6td t3
Post by: the4ork on June 02, 2012, 09:32:04 am
Can anyone give a quick comparison in spool, top end and power output?
Title: Re: Comparison ko3 vs 1.6td t3
Post by: R.O.R-2.0 on June 02, 2012, 09:39:40 am
Can anyone give a quick comparison in spool, top end and power output?

100% comparing apples to oranges with this..

the K03 is basically spooled off idle, and only makes ~18psi max.. generally not a good performance oriented turbo.

the T3 doesnt spool till ~3000 with stock fueling, but is capable of 30+psi.. generally more used on vehicles where performance is wanted..

what are you trying to accomplish? we will help you decide what turbo is best..
Title: Re: Comparison ko3 vs 1.6td t3
Post by: the4ork on June 02, 2012, 09:49:26 am
It's for an 8v gas engine, Tryin to use existing factory stuff. I want 170-180hp, in boost by 2500rpm or earlier without constricting top end power
Title: Re: Comparison ko3 vs 1.6td t3
Post by: libbydiesel on June 02, 2012, 09:59:21 am
This thread is kinda like someone going to a Vegan forum and asking how to properly cook tofu because they really want to cook a rare steak.
Title: Re: Comparison ko3 vs 1.6td t3
Post by: the4ork on June 02, 2012, 10:02:38 am
Figured u guys would know these snails better than anyone else.

Is the diesel and gas ko3 the same?
Title: Re: Comparison ko3 vs 1.6td t3
Post by: libbydiesel on June 02, 2012, 10:06:32 am
No they aren't the same and the diesel K03 or T3 will behave differently on a gas engine than on a diesel.  I have used all the 1.6 and 1.9 turbos except the AAZ T2 and yet I probably wouldn't have any useful info for you because I haven't used any of them on 8v gas engines. 
Title: Re: Comparison ko3 vs 1.6td t3
Post by: the4ork on June 02, 2012, 10:24:04 am
do they have the same mounting flange?

i just ask because a k03s is a very nice match for a 20v engine, so i was guessing a k03 non-s would be a great turbo for an 8v

but id also be interested in comparing the k-series as well.

all these parts are off the shelf, cheap and bolt on. so why not?

id just go aftermarket but everything is a t3 flange and id have to use a pretty small t3 i think for what id like to accomplish.
Title: Re: Comparison ko3 vs 1.6td t3
Post by: libbydiesel on June 02, 2012, 10:56:02 am
I don't remember if the gasser k03 shares the same flange as the diesel k03.
Title: Re: Comparison ko3 vs 1.6td t3
Post by: Sierra94 on June 02, 2012, 11:35:14 am
They both have the triangular flange, can't tell if the bolt holes match on both.

Title: Re: Comparison ko3 vs 1.6td t3
Post by: RabbitJockey on June 02, 2012, 07:12:58 pm
The t3 will work best on a gas engine
Title: Re: Comparison ko3 vs 1.6td t3
Post by: RabbitJockey on June 02, 2012, 07:14:31 pm
Can anyone give a quick comparison in spool, top end and power output?

100% comparing apples to oranges with this..

the K03 is basically spooled off idle, and only makes ~18psi max.. generally not a good performance oriented turbo.

the T3 doesnt spool till ~3000 with stock fueling, but is capable of 30+psi.. generally more used on vehicles where performance is wanted..

what are you trying to accomplish? we will help you decide what turbo is best..

Stock t3 isn't really good for 30 psi it will put out 30psi but it's not good at it haha
Title: Re: Comparison ko3 vs 1.6td t3
Post by: R.O.R-2.0 on June 07, 2012, 09:13:23 am
Can anyone give a quick comparison in spool, top end and power output?

100% comparing apples to oranges with this..

the K03 is basically spooled off idle, and only makes ~18psi max.. generally not a good performance oriented turbo.

the T3 doesnt spool till ~3000 with stock fueling, but is capable of 30+psi.. generally more used on vehicles where performance is wanted..

what are you trying to accomplish? we will help you decide what turbo is best..

Stock t3 isn't really good for 30 psi it will put out 30psi but it's not good at it haha

I swear josh has told me about spiking 44psi...

i never said it would make 30psi GOOD, just that it would do it.

we all know that 30psi out of almost any single turbo is most likely inefficient..
Title: Re: Comparison ko3 vs 1.6td t3
Post by: RabbitJockey on June 07, 2012, 09:39:08 am
josh also has a totally different t3.
Title: Re: Comparison ko3 vs 1.6td t3
Post by: R.O.R-2.0 on June 07, 2012, 09:42:19 am
josh also has a totally different t3.

no, were not talking the merc/hybrid/laggy turbo he has now/taking off soon.. i was talking about the stock VW t3, spiking 44psi.

this was a LONG time ago that the 44psi spike discussion happened.. like shortly after i joined the board, some 5 years ago.
Title: Re: Comparison ko3 vs 1.6td t3
Post by: theman53 on June 07, 2012, 02:55:28 pm
zukgod I believe...and his pile of turbos in the garage. Either way it was someone on here as I remember that number too.
Title: Re: Comparison ko3 vs 1.6td t3
Post by: R.O.R-2.0 on June 07, 2012, 06:39:50 pm
zukgod I believe...and his pile of turbos in the garage. Either way it was someone on here as I remember that number too.

ya, may have been zukgod.

nope, it was Josh..

i just txt him and asked..

guess it was a K24 tho, not a T3..

and lets just call it a good honest 40psi, because i now own the boost gauge, and its off by 4psi across the board..