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General Information => Upgrades (non engine related ) => Topic started by: Smokey Eddy on May 31, 2012, 05:21:42 pm
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My jetta was useless in the snow at the ski hill this past season not because of my tires but because it was so incredibly difficult not to spin 1 tire at a time.
The snow tires helped a lot but i just hated the fact that i couldn't make the front tires like a possi on a RWD car! :P
The suggested retail price on these make me cringe but has anyone actually done this and could shed some light for me?
http://www.peloquins.com/products_020.html
(http://www.peloquins.com/products_020.html)
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My jetta was useless in the snow at the ski hill this past season not because of my tires but because it was so incredibly difficult not to spin 1 tire at a time.
The snow tires helped a lot but i just hated the fact that i couldn't make the front tires like a possi on a RWD car! :P
The suggested retail price on these make me cringe but has anyone actually done this and could shed some light for me?
http://www.peloquins.com/products_020.html
(http://www.peloquins.com/products_020.html)
ive used the poor-mans posi before, and lightly rode the brakes, to keep it from biasing one side soo bad..
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Sounds tricky for snowy conditions...
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Sounds tricky for snowy conditions...
thats the only time i ever use that trick. either on snow/ice or mud. and my car doesnt see much mud action.
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I think the quaife units are a little more reasonably priced but I don't know much about the different setups, peloquin, quaife or wavetrac.
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It would be cheaper (but not easier) to find an AWD set up from an audi that bolts up. doesnt a quattro fit most 4 door mk2s?
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It would be cheaper (but not easier) to find an AWD set up from an audi that bolts up. doesnt a quattro fit most 4 door mk2s?
If this were the case there would be 1000's of awd mkII's on the road in this country. It's an engineering/fabrication nightmare, no easy solution, it'd be much easier to swap the diesel into a 4000 or something.
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http://www.peloquins.com/products_80.html
same website different product. This is what I had in mine. It is a much cheaper and easier solution to try. VW never had anywhere close to the 80% I think the most they did was 20%. At any rate that is what I used in mine and it helped a ton. In the mud with around 40,000 miles it would still spin 2 tires. Brokevw says there is nothing wrong with the kit and he has used them in his own cars. It is easy to install, just about like doing the flange seals. The Peloquin you have to strip the entire case and setup the ring and pinion gears as the peloquin takes the place of the ring gear carrier.
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I wouldn't spend the money on a LSD if it was going into an 020. If you really want an LSD, convert to a 02a.
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I wouldn't spend the money on a LSD if it was going into an 020. If you really want an LSD, convert to a 02a.
x2..
if your gonna drop the coin on LSD, then just get an O2A..
if you have enough power/torque to warrant a LSD, then you probably aint far from the limits of the 020 trans..
i know that the next upgrade im doing to my car, is an O2A trans swap..
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From what broke vw said the wavetrack in theory was the "best" setup, but they had issues with the hardening process. They would shear the machined portion off of the arp bolts so they couldn't be tightend properly. He contacted them and they said they were addressing the issue.
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On a bit of a threadjack, but is any kind of LSD available for 02a/j?
would the 020 transaxle go in an 02a?
Had thought of putting an 80% diff in mine but they're so damn pricey
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Same are available as far as I know.
80% is less than 100.00 USD...that is cheap IMHO
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I've owned a few Quaifes and they work fine. Jumping on the throttle from a slow roll still had some evil torque steer. The Peloquin works pretty much the same as the Quaife. Peloquin also includes the diff bearings and bolts. The Peloquin also has a much better warranty.
I've also used the 80% shim kit and was able to do 2 wheeled burn outs. The shim kits do wear out, so be aware of that.
-Todd
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Same are available as far as I know.
80% is less than 100.00 USD...that is cheap IMHO
thats not a LSD tho..
thats just a good reason to change out your brass conical washers every year..
if your gonna go with a LSD, then get a LSD, not a mini-slip..
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the 80% kit actually ties the spider gears together so it is closer to both axles turning at the same time.
The peloquin unit when I called the guy he said was actually a "torque amplifier" and it reroutes to the wheel with the most traction. It can be used with the 80% kit, which will help it achieve both axle spin. As is the peloquin unit will not spin both tires. If you jack up one tire and put it in gear it will only spin one...this is according to the guy selling them.
Wavetrac on the other hand is what I consider LSD and will spin both if jacked up, so be careful.
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the 80% kit actually ties the spider gears together so it is closer to both axles turning at the same time.
The peloquin unit when I called the guy he said was actually a "torque amplifier" and it reroutes to the wheel with the most traction. It can be used with the 80% kit, which will help it achieve both axle spin. As is the peloquin unit will not spin both tires. If you jack up one tire and put it in gear it will only spin one...this is according to the guy selling them.
Wavetrac on the other hand is what I consider LSD and will spin both if jacked up, so be careful.
you need there to be resistance on BOTH tires for a LSD to work.. if one tire has absolutely NO resistance, it wont engage internals of the locker, and it will just go thru the spiders..
if you are shooting the power to it, then both tires will spin if they have any amount of traction.
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The peloquin unit when I called the guy he said was actually a "torque amplifier" and it reroutes to the wheel with the most traction. It can be used with the 80% kit, which will help it achieve both axle spin. As is the peloquin unit will not spin both tires.
I'm thinking there may have been a communication error. These things are ATB differentials, so although it transfers power, it never disconnects power to the slipping wheel. When theres a low traction situation, both wheels will be spinning. The Peloquin works on the same principle as the Quaifes. Both brand differentials will spin both tires, but never equally.
There must be some type of difference between the two, though. I've spoken with Gary Peloquin years ago when he first mentioned using the shim kit with his diff. Quaife has you remove the shims.
-Todd
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I did a custom 020 from vwtransaxles.com .
FF final on a CHD with a 3.42 r&p
ext iand int were 12 pt arp bolts
powdercoated trans housings before install
caddy is gone and I needed this setup for my torque of my build....
The new owner loves the truck , with the custom r&p it would cruise at 85 mph and still get 47 mpg
Take care to all of you here....
GB