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Title: Waht do turbo diesel motors go for????
Post by: big specht on February 12, 2006, 08:24:06 am
I found a 86 jetta 1.6 td w/123,000 on it and it has been siting in a field for 6 years all I want is the motor what are the motors going for????
Title: Re: Waht do turbo diesel motors go for????
Post by: lord_verminaard on February 12, 2006, 10:00:43 am
Quote from: "big specht"
I found a 86 jetta 1.6 td w/123,000 on it and it has been siting in a field for 6 years all I want is the motor what are the motors going for????


I'd offer them $500 for the whole car.  :D

Brendan
84 Scirocco 8v
00 Camaro L36 M49
Title: Waht do turbo diesel motors go for????
Post by: big specht on February 13, 2006, 05:07:35 pm
Hell I was thinking 150 for the car
Title: Waht do turbo diesel motors go for????
Post by: vwmike on February 13, 2006, 05:12:03 pm
$150 would be a hell of a deal. Price vary quite a bit depending on the condition and what's included. A used engine assembly with everything cam easily bring in several hundred dollars. It can be much more for a rebuilt engine. The deals are out there though - usually when the seller doesn't know what they have.
Title: Waht do turbo diesel motors go for????
Post by: bryanbryan89x on February 13, 2006, 06:22:16 pm
If you are buying the car to make a profit.  I will give you 300 dollars for the td motor.  I will also pick it up locally.
Title: Waht do turbo diesel motors go for????
Post by: zyewdall on February 13, 2006, 08:15:54 pm
Yeah, just a rebuildable turbo block can be a few hundred.  If it runs, more.  Down here in the US, there weren't many of the turbos, so they're rare.  In Canada maybe not.
Title: Waht do turbo diesel motors go for????
Post by: dubCanuck1 on February 13, 2006, 08:24:12 pm
They're like rabbits (the cute fuzzy kind). But nobody sells them unless they've got Honda on the brain and don't know/care what they have.
Title: Waht do turbo diesel motors go for????
Post by: Steve Landeau on February 13, 2006, 10:21:11 pm
A recent ebay listing sold all the turbo accessories )turbo, manifolds, oil pan, oil hoses, etc. for over $600.
A complete rebuildable, or possibly even running turbo engine would be worth at least that.
Title: Waht do turbo diesel motors go for????
Post by: BlackTieTD on February 14, 2006, 05:53:05 am
in canada you can get a running 1.6L TD for $100. might need rings or something at that price. i got one in a junker jetta, $600cdn for the whole car (but it needed head work). i traded a complete navy blue rabbit GTI interior for one complete one (needs rings) and one setup in pieces. up here they aren't difficult to find and most people want 1.9L diesels, IDI or TDI. i can't bring myself to resell these things for profit so if i come upon any more at good prices i'll post them in the for sale section.
Title: Waht do turbo diesel motors go for????
Post by: zyewdall on February 14, 2006, 07:53:28 am
Quote from: "BlackTieTD"
in canada you can get a running 1.6L TD for $100. might need rings or something at that price. i got one in a junker jetta, $600cdn for the whole car (but it needed head work). i traded a complete navy blue rabbit GTI interior for one complete one (needs rings) and one setup in pieces. up here they aren't difficult to find and most people want 1.9L diesels, IDI or TDI. i can't bring myself to resell these things for profit so if i come upon any more at good prices i'll post them in the for sale section.


Man, I need to move to canada.   :cry:   You have all the good engines up there.
Title: Waht do turbo diesel motors go for????
Post by: BlackTieTD on February 14, 2006, 09:01:29 am
i saw three 1.6L TDs in one junkyard last week. looked fairly unmolested too. just come up here and hit some yards. would make a good vacation ;)
Title: Waht do turbo diesel motors go for????
Post by: bhtooefr on February 14, 2006, 10:57:38 am
Would a MF-code engine fit in the trunk of an A2 Jetta?

Alternately, how quickly could an engine swap be done?

I need BOOOST! (Actually, I just need to drive it with the new air filter and fuel filter :P)
Title: Waht do turbo diesel motors go for????
Post by: BlackTieTD on February 14, 2006, 11:02:42 am
you mean......fit in the trunk for transportation, right? it probably would but you might not be able to close the trunk.

engine swap, well... if its a mkII TD going into a mkII diesel car.... could be done in a day if you have everything you need. very simple swap with minimal electrical fuss.
Title: Waht do turbo diesel motors go for????
Post by: bhtooefr on February 14, 2006, 11:11:04 am
Yes, for transportation. As in, to get one home from Canada. I'd suspect that weight would be the issue - closing the trunk wouldn't be necessary. ;)

However, I really don't have the money for this, this is just an idea I'm tossing around for fun.

BTW, VW Motorsport already did the whole "two running engines (1.8L 8V gassers), one of them in the trunk" trick on a Jetta (the Twin-Jet) and a Scirocco (the Bimotor Scirocco), and then some nutcase that lives in Cincinatti did the Durocco, another twin-engined Mk2 (A1, of course) 'rocco.
Title: Waht do turbo diesel motors go for????
Post by: BlackTieTD on February 14, 2006, 11:20:59 am
there have been a bunch of dual motor and rear motor setups over the years... i know of a local lunatic giving it a shot!

i doubt the weight would be a major issue... just move anything to the front that you can. the back end should be fine esp if you have stiff or tall springs.

..and i bet you could find a cheapish 1.6L TD (MF code) easier than you think!
Title: Waht do turbo diesel motors go for????
Post by: lavabo on February 15, 2006, 10:04:22 am
hey i bought a spare 1.6TD for 150$ CAD and another guy offered me another one for the same price!!!  I might bought it but my garage is full!!! if someone want it i can help
.

I have also a scrapyard nearby with about 10 jetta-golf Diesel\TD one jetta the guy came to the scrap with the car runnning..but the body was scrap..not the engine!!
Title: Waht do turbo diesel motors go for????
Post by: bhtooefr on February 15, 2006, 12:03:29 pm
:shock:

Gah, if I had money... my car's screaming for boost!

But, I need a new laptop...  :x
Title: Waht do turbo diesel motors go for????
Post by: jigger on February 15, 2006, 06:18:48 pm
Quote from: "lavabo"
hey i bought a spare 1.6TD for 150$ CAD and another guy offered me another one for the same price!!!  I might bought it but my garage is full!!! if someone want it i can help
.

I have also a scrapyard nearby with about 10 jetta-golf Diesel\TD one jetta the guy came to the scrap with the car runnning..but the body was scrap..not the engine!!

where is shawinigan
Title: Waht do turbo diesel motors go for????
Post by: iggi on February 15, 2006, 07:45:07 pm
Jean Cretien is a Shawinigan home boy  :)  

There seems to be a better supply of VW diesels out in Quebec and Ontario. I wonder how much getting a motor trucked out to Alberta would cost?
Title: Waht do turbo diesel motors go for????
Post by: LeeG on February 16, 2006, 11:51:47 am
Told to me by someone who has done a bit of it:  You can ship a 4 banger anywhere in N-America on a pallet for $300.

I know for a fact that I can get a pallet of 30 computers from Ontario to BC for $210  ~800lbs
Title: Waht do turbo diesel motors go for????
Post by: bhtooefr on March 20, 2006, 04:54:36 pm
Bringing this thread back from the dead - a 1.6TD is needed for a conversion project. (Unless it costs to much to get the adaptors, in which case it'll be a gasser that's dropped in.)

wyldman told me that these prices were BS. Anyone able to confirm that?

We can't call around to junkyards in Canada to make sure that someone has one, and what it would cost, though - cell phones are locked out of international calls, and Canada is international...
Title: Waht do turbo diesel motors go for????
Post by: LeeG on March 20, 2006, 10:07:20 pm
In western Canada (BC) I would say that a good price for a complete running 1.6 TD would be $1000 +/- $200.  I called a auto wrecker that had a few advertised a while back and was told $2000 for a good runner with under 250,000 km.  There was a 'complete 88 Jetta TD 'needs work' advertised locally for $350....gone when I called.  All canuck bucks.

They look like they are cheaper in eastern Canada, makes sense as used cars are cheaper out that way too....'cause they rust out worse.

http://vwdiesel.net/phpBB/viewtopic.php?t=3208  had one for sale out east, dont know if it sold or not.

BC VW forum:  www,vwdov.ca  you could try a WTB listing, it is trolled by some auto wreckers and well stocked enthusiats.  Must be similar forums in other provinces as well -anyone?
Title: Waht do turbo diesel motors go for????
Post by: wyldman on March 21, 2006, 06:08:37 am
Right now.if you can find one,most of the wreckers want $2-2500 or more for a good running 1.6 or 1.9LTD.There were no 1.6L TD's anywere in stock in Ontario (according to their linked computer systems),and they had one 1.9L TD they wanted $2750 for (275,000 KM).

You best bet is to find a beater car with a good motor in it,and buy the whole thing.
Title: Waht do turbo diesel motors go for????
Post by: Asymtave on March 21, 2006, 06:33:13 am
Wyldman's experience has been my experience in SW Ontario.  I more or less get laughed at when I ask for a TD motor to re-build.
Title: Waht do turbo diesel motors go for????
Post by: LeeG on March 21, 2006, 08:08:03 am
This add in local free ad paper:
GORDONS VW  Over stocked on DIESEL & TURBO DIESEL engines. Langley BC 604-533-3506
I have never dealt with them, might be worth a call.

Also a nice looking '87 Jetta with a 60k rebuilt TD for $2800
http://www.buysell.com/root/0/49207783/resultdetail.aspx
Thats about as cheap as I would expect to find a decent TD driver around here.  If it was truly rebuilt, its a good price, probably rust free if it spent its life in Victoria.

With time to look and wait, you can get a running 1.6TD for $1k, in a rush the same thing will be $2k from the wreckers.  I have seen rebuilt 1.6NA not selling for weeks in the $500 range.  I have yet to see a 1.9 TD engine advertised in BC, see a TDI every few months, mainly in Alberta.
Title: Waht do turbo diesel motors go for????
Post by: chrissev on March 22, 2006, 05:57:07 pm
Quote from: "Asymtave"
Wyldman's experience has been my experience in SW Ontario.  I more or less get laughed at when I ask for a TD motor to re-build.


I just sold a complete running 1.6TD jetta with bad rings and cylinders that needed bored out and fit with oversize pistons for $1000.  It seems that is what they are worth up here.  Car had some body issues that would prevent it from passing a safety check (rust through in the driver's side floor) and the exhaust was bad, but other than that and the engine problem it was in OK shape.

Chris
Title: Waht do turbo diesel motors go for????
Post by: wyldman on March 22, 2006, 06:24:00 pm
It also very important to buy from a reputable source.A lot of people will advertise and sell used motors,and they always seem to "forget" about any little problem it has before they sold it,and now your stuck with it.

A lot of people are buying these motors for swaps,or are on a tight budget.That budget goes out the window when you have to start repair your new motor.

We only sell motors that have been pulled from running cars,and tested.They are then torn down for inspection,and repaired as neccessary.Any stuff that needs too much work,gets a total rebuild.
Title: Waht do turbo diesel motors go for????
Post by: BlackTieTD on March 23, 2006, 07:26:23 am
Quote from: "wyldman"
Right now.if you can find one,most of the wreckers want $2-2500 or more for a good running 1.6 or 1.9LTD.There were no 1.6L TD's anywere in stock in Ontario (according to their linked computer systems),and they had one 1.9L TD they wanted $2750 for (275,000 KM).


whoa whoa........ i've been to only two yards since xmas in toronto and hamilton areas, the first u-pull had 2 complete 1.6L TD motors, the second had 3, and one more that was picked from. didn't ask price but there are tons out there... i traded a rabbit interior for a complete one, and one more in pieces last summer... (this is all MF code i'm talking about).

Quote from: "wyldman"
You best bet is to find a beater car with a good motor in it,and buy the whole thing.


thats where the engine in my daily rabbit came from, a $600 '90 Jetta.

"bought an 06 Cobalt, clearing out the diesel jetta stuff now"
chrissev! whyyyyy!!  :lol:

Quote from: "wyldman"
We only sell motors that have been pulled from running cars,and tested.They are then torn down for inspection,and repaired as neccessary.Any stuff that needs too much work,gets a total rebuild.


if i was in the market, i'd be going to wyldman for a motor.
Title: Waht do turbo diesel motors go for????
Post by: wyldman on March 23, 2006, 07:30:28 am
There are some older motors out there,in yards that aren't connected with the online locator system.Some have no idea what these are worth,and you can pick them up cheap.Problem is finding them.You have to run all over to find one,and it probably won't be in any condition to run,so you may not know what you are buying.

If anyone knows of any sitting in a yard cheap,let me know,as I will go get them and then offer them for sale here cheap,as there tons of people looking for them,even just for a spare or rebuildable core.
Title: Waht do turbo diesel motors go for????
Post by: chrissev on March 23, 2006, 10:39:40 am
Quote
"bought an 06 Cobalt, clearing out the diesel jetta stuff now"
chrissev! whyyyyy!!  :lol:


well, a number of reasons.  The first being that a new jetta TDI costs around 30K and I haven't got that kinda money right now.  The Cobalt was $13,200, slightly more affordable...with an aluminum block and dual overhead cams, it didn't seem that bad of a deal.

Why I sold the jetta:  I am sick of used rebuilt parts.  I bought a rebuilt injection pump that leaked, four rebuilt injectors, one of which was bad (the other three worked, amazingly enough), a rebuilt starter that lasted six months, and then the head gasket blew and when I took the head off I discovered that the cylinders were oval with lips at the top (the guy i bought the jetta from swore he rebuilt the bottom end, I think what he did was take the pistons out and re-ring them, he might have buffed the cylinders but I doubt he did even that judging from the large protruding lips that were at the tops of them - this is the sort of crap I am sick of, seems people like to cheap out on rebuilding things and I get stuck with junk that I pay good money for), and I decided that enough was enough.  I didn't want to spend money either rebuilding the block or getting a rebuilt short block, then have further issues with it or some other rebuilt thing down the road.  If and when I get back into diesels, I will be getting into TDIs for the simple reason that it is possible to get new parts for them.  I am just so tired of rebuilt stuff that doesn't work or last.  FYI:  The jetta was sold to a person who was aware of its problems so I didn't try to slip a bad engine under someone's radar.  The new owner is aware that the block is probably no good.
Title: Waht do turbo diesel motors go for????
Post by: BlackTieTD on March 23, 2006, 10:50:46 am
fair enough. good luck with the chevy. i owned a few cavaliers and it was one problem after the next. going to the 1.6L TD engine has been a walk in the park by comparison. hopefully GM has sorted out the issues with the new cavaliers, i don't know much about them but it must feel nice to be in a brand new car after dealing with that headache!  :)
Title: Waht do turbo diesel motors go for????
Post by: chrissev on March 24, 2006, 07:24:13 am
Quote from: "BlackTieTD"
fair enough. good luck with the chevy. i owned a few cavaliers and it was one problem after the next. going to the 1.6L TD engine has been a walk in the park by comparison. hopefully GM has sorted out the issues with the new cavaliers, i don't know much about them but it must feel nice to be in a brand new car after dealing with that headache!  :)


Yeah new car is great.  The Cobalt's not a Cavalier.  It's a Saturn Ion with better sound insulation and a redesigned engine.  Not related to the Cavalier at all.  They were little sh*tboxes.  I wouldn't buy one.  Almost as bad as the Neon.  Hopefully this car is good quality.

Chris
Title: Waht do turbo diesel motors go for????
Post by: Laurentian on March 24, 2006, 04:34:12 pm
Truth be told, go online at vwquebec.ca and see for yourselves.
Lots of running 1.6TD's complete motor going for 350.00-500.00 Can.
The 1.9's go anywhere from 1000.00 to 1700.00 complete.
I picked-up my complete doner A3 car with 270,000 km's for
900.00 Can. Lots of compression!!
Yes they are cheaper in québec I gather as VW's have always been very popular with the more Euro mined french canadians.
Almost everyone I know here owned a VW at one point.
In the eighties / early nineties the VW's dealers practically had lineups.
Now that they have priced themselves out of the workingman's pricerange seems only high zoot perfume wearing wage earners go there now.
Later,
Hughie
Title: Waht do turbo diesel motors go for????
Post by: kynetx on March 30, 2006, 02:37:07 pm
Quote from: "bhtooefr"
Yes, for transportation. As in, to get one home from Canada. I'd suspect that weight would be the issue - closing the trunk wouldn't be necessary. ;)

However, I really don't have the money for this, this is just an idea I'm tossing around for fun.

BTW, VW Motorsport already did the whole "two running engines (1.8L 8V gassers), one of them in the trunk" trick on a Jetta (the Twin-Jet) and a Scirocco (the Bimotor Scirocco), and then some nutcase that lives in Cincinatti did the Durocco, another twin-engined Mk2 (A1, of course) 'rocco.


I really recommend checking out his site.  There are a lot of cool videos.  One of them has him just beating the pants off a Boxster. How he managed that with two engines is beyond me considering the weight.  I'm sure two 1.8 liter engines would be a LOT heavier than 1 3.2 liter v-6 (at the most)
Title: Waht do turbo diesel motors go for????
Post by: bhtooefr on March 30, 2006, 03:07:19 pm
I've already been to his site and watched all his videos.

The best two were the clutch job and the engine replacement, which weren't even ON the Durocco :P
Title: Waht do turbo diesel motors go for????
Post by: LeeG on April 10, 2006, 07:31:22 am
FYI:
somone in california with 1.9 TD(s) on ebay:
http://cgi.ebay.ca/VW-1900-Turbo-Diesel-Engine-Used_W0QQitemZ8054702881QQcategoryZ33615QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

listing above for a complete 1.9 TD $2600 USD buy it now.  complete with turbo, clutch, alternator, expansion tank, aircleaner box....

seller ID vwmotors

maybe this will help some of you turbo hungry US blokes?