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Title: brake check to tailgater backfire
Post by: JBG3 on April 19, 2012, 06:10:50 am
thought id relate this little story-

was passing a truck getting off the highway, guy in an alero comes up on me at what must have been 80, sits on my bumper flashing his lights, rude hand signals, the works. 

I tap the brakes to get him off me, and hes so close that he nearly hits the fast lane retaining wall not hitting me.

Then when I yield, I guess he decided the gloves come off, and nearly sideswiped me, then STOPPED once he got right in front, and I rear ended him lightly.  The whole time gesturing and whatnot.

We pull off, and he jumps out yelling, threatening, and demanding cash because I "rear ended him while he was trying to get off at the exit".  ****ing lying POS. 
He discovers I have at least 100lbs on him, and was literally quivering with rage, so he backs off a bit, but still demands we exchange insurance information since "I hit him while he was peacefully driving along."

The problem is that with no other witnesses, im at fault, even though he caused the accident.  Tapping the brakes is not worth it, gratifying if someone gets the point, but this guy decided he was going to cause an accident, then attempt insurance fraud.  He came this close to losing all his teeth, but with the way this guy was lying, who knows how that would have ended up, I could have easily been in jail for assault the end of the day.

End of the story is there was no damage to my jetta, a scuff on his car, and the cop was more than a little pissed to have been called to such a minor thing, but he did understand my point of trying to get a third party accident report before any insurance info was exchanged.  The guy compromised himself with his lying too, and the cop started to see through it.  When I started taking pictures of the damage, the guy wanted to drop it all, really he was just after cash, or insurance fraud, but god help him if I run into him at a bar.  Not even for the accident, for all the lying. 

Moral is that if the guy had been just a little bit better liar, I would have been forced by the cop to exchange insurance info, and who knows what would have been claimed, certainly would have been a nightmare, so from now on, no more brake checks for me. 
Title: Re: brake check to tailgater backfire
Post by: CRSMP5 on April 19, 2012, 07:16:58 am
fyi a mason jar full off ball bearings and bodily fluid of your chosing chucked out the drivers window as he tries to pass is much more fun... just make sure it gets his windshield... man if i ever went thru with the crap i think of for moron drivers... rear mounted spud guns anyone??
Title: Re: brake check to tailgater backfire
Post by: Luckypabst on April 19, 2012, 07:24:56 am
ATF injected as a fine mist into the exhaust manifold...
Title: Re: brake check to tailgater backfire
Post by: CRSMP5 on April 19, 2012, 07:27:28 am
back in highschool days.. people still had carbs and hoods that opened from outside the car... all it takes is a few oz of atf to make a smoke screen that lasted a good few miles... LOL... i sure was glad to own a diesel... LOL.. could fill the football field with a cloud of oil filled fog.. LOL... way too many classmates got that trick

still worst ever prank i witnessed... drunk party... idiot who does not lock his doors while passed out in his car... a bottle of super glue... power windows... now imagine disconnecting batt... a bead of glue on the doors weather stripping... and doors shut... then watching poor guy need to puke/piss and unable to open windows or doors... was sooo rotten... but when drunk funny as hell...
Title: Re: brake check to tailgater backfire
Post by: billybobf on April 19, 2012, 11:28:24 am
yup yup, Ive had someone ride my tail in  my old rabbit, he just wouldnt go around me for ANY reason, but didnt mind being ten feet behind me, I laid out a cloud that was two lanes wide and probably 200 yards long.

course the down side was, when I towed my little aluminum boat to the lake pulling steep hills up the mountain, it was pretty black on the exhaust side of the boat
Title: Re: brake check to tailgater backfire
Post by: rallydiesel on April 19, 2012, 11:45:24 am
Always best to just keep your distance. You never know what people keep in their cars nowadays. There's a lot of messed up people out there.
Title: Re: brake check to tailgater backfire
Post by: 8v-of-fury on April 19, 2012, 04:08:18 pm
Always best to just keep your distance. You never know what people keep in their cars nowadays. There's a lot of messed up people out there.

Agreed..

But that ATF sprayer sounds pretty awesome ;).
Title: Re: brake check to tailgater backfire
Post by: Toby on May 02, 2012, 04:18:30 pm
I prefer small arms myself, but a huge cloud of diesel smoke comes in a close second. I once had an ass clown tailgating my F250 with a load of pea gravel in the back. There was nowhere to go except to slow down to a crawl and move into the right lane, and that I was not on my list of options. So I found a big pot hole and treated him to a little gravel shower. Very effective against tailgaters. I fantasized about a hidden gravel spreader in front of the rear tires for some time. I used to commute about 75 freeway miles each way to school when I was being retrained for my latest profession and it certainly hardened my attitude toward tailgaters. I used to pull over for the guys that were genuinely hauling ass, until I realized that the same guys were passing me 3 times in 30 miles. Most of these clowns would veg out when a good song came on the radio and end up behind me while they were snoozing to Snotly Screw or some other metal band and then want me to let them by again after they woke up.

I designed a little bomb release set up while stuck in traffic that year, that would drop a water filled section of 4" PVC with a couple of Ts at either end to get a good tumble out of it after release. Once the "payload" was released there was no evidence that it had ever been there. Good thing I never built it or I would still be in prison.
Title: Re: brake check to tailgater backfire
Post by: libbydiesel on May 02, 2012, 07:00:16 pm
I found that once I stopped giving a flying fig about tailgaters, they all stopped following me around.  No really.
Title: Re: brake check to tailgater backfire
Post by: Toby on May 03, 2012, 10:12:52 pm
That is called Magical Thinking. I have been rear ended 8 or 9 times in the last 20 years and nothing stops tailgaters except fear. Its hard not to "give a fig" about tailgaters while you are in physical therapy. Most of them are too stupid to realize that if I have to stop they will end up in my trunk. It always seems to come as a surprise. Only fear seems to penetrate the cortex of their golf ball sized brains.
Title: Re: brake check to tailgater backfire
Post by: lovinthedeez on May 03, 2012, 10:46:21 pm
I always found the best solution to let them pass and go.  laugh at how they do it to the next person and be glad you're not the person they do it to next. 
Title: Re: brake check to tailgater backfire
Post by: 745 turbogreasel on May 04, 2012, 01:21:49 am
nothing stops tailgaters except fear.

I don't know, I've had 7 or 8 eat my hitch ball,  and I'm sure they'd have been scared if the took the time to think about where they were going.
Title: Re: brake check to tailgater backfire
Post by: libbydiesel on May 04, 2012, 07:37:51 am
nothing attracts tailgaters except fear.

FTFY  ;)
Title: Re: brake check to tailgater backfire
Post by: fatmobile on May 04, 2012, 08:41:27 pm
 I had a '76 toyota SR5 liftback and somehow the rear window sprayer broke off.
 I was on top of the rear of the car and could now shoot a 1/4" stream.
 I had someone on my tail that wouldn't pass when it was clear and I slowed and moved to the right of the lane.
 Speed up in a no pass zone and they are right on my tail again.
 So I hit the rear wiper sprayer (turned James Bond anti-tailgate device) switch.
 I don't know how well it cleaned their windshield but they backed right off and stayed back.
 I want one on my Rabbit. ;D
Title: Re: brake check to tailgater backfire
Post by: 8v-of-fury on May 04, 2012, 08:52:38 pm
Now replace with 90w gear oil, and call it a day :).
Title: Re: brake check to tailgater backfire
Post by: theman53 on May 05, 2012, 07:55:45 am
My 81 with the rear wiper did that. I flipped it so it sprayed out. I completely forgot about that until you said something fatmobile. Never used it for tailgaters, just friends. I would also turn it to spray people on the sidewalks if I was feeling the need. This was also when I was younger and stupid.
Title: Re: brake check to tailgater backfire
Post by: ORCoaster on May 05, 2012, 09:25:50 pm
Your 81 had a rear wiper?  I was thinking that I should look around for an 84 Hatch with the wiper.  I could really use one.  For Tailgaters and such.  Had a guy fly up on me this weekend.  Thought OK head back on the head rest he is going to punch me good.  Barely missed touching me as he hooked it to the right lane then quickly took the next exit.  Perhaps to change pants? 

Getting caught in stop and go traffic with the VW I can't accelerate with the turbo crowd of BMW's, Audi's and other VW's.  Once we get flowing at 40 it is not a problem.  Just getting started with the traffic at a dead stop is the tough part.

Title: Re: brake check to tailgater backfire
Post by: theman53 on May 05, 2012, 09:44:14 pm
Yep, 81 Diesel n/a LS trim. It had the rear wiper and was quite useful. I have asked around and not all LS had the rear wiper. I know where my old 81 sits and I think I could get it, but it has been sitting for years and is probably no longer good.
Title: Re: brake check to tailgater backfire
Post by: nathan_b on May 06, 2012, 08:01:40 am
hold up a sign that says "i look peaceful, but am in all reality, an ax murderer."
Title: Re: brake check to tailgater backfire
Post by: bajacalal on May 06, 2012, 11:26:37 am
My 81 with the rear wiper did that. I flipped it so it sprayed out. I completely forgot about that until you said something fatmobile. Never used it for tailgaters, just friends. I would also turn it to spray people on the sidewalks if I was feeling the need. This was also when I was younger and stupid.

I did that when I had my Jeep Cherokee. The little hose going to the rear wiper sprayer would fall out. One time this teenage girl in a red BMW convertible wouldn't back off and kept tailgating me impatiently while I was going through a residential area. I gave her a little spray. It startled her, she dropped her cigarette, freaked out and slammed on the brakes in the middle of a busy corner frantically trying to stop the cigarette from burning the interior. I felt a little bad but it was pretty funny. I think it was probably her father's car. I bet her parents wouldn't have been pleased. ;D
Title: Re: brake check to tailgater backfire
Post by: CRSMP5 on May 06, 2012, 02:34:34 pm
rear bunny wiper was option from 76+... so just find rear hatch.. also funny.. rear wiper hatch rots less then non wiper..

know what i hate... trip to and from philly this weekend... a moron for a hour... im running between 70-75... im prety constant.. i have this guy... i catch up to him.. he slows down.. so i move over to pass... he speeds up... i move back over... he slows down.. i move over to pass he speeds up.. for over a hour... better be glad my passenger lacked a bat to hang out the door as i passed the arss to give him a good wack... kubvans rule.. so much more you can do with a open door..
Title: Re: brake check to tailgater backfire
Post by: ORCoaster on May 06, 2012, 06:34:06 pm
Thanks, I will keep looking as summer is coming on and so are the new girls with their parents cars.  What a riot.  Oh crap! I dropped my cig and it is burning a hole in the seat.  Now they are going to know for sure i smoke when I drive their car.  LOL
Title: Re: brake check to tailgater backfire
Post by: JBG3 on May 15, 2012, 01:25:12 pm
so update:

Ive seen this guy TWICE since our little altercation. 

Once, he flew by me again when I was in my work van on the same road, but I recognized the plate and DB driving style. 

And a second time I was meeting my GF for dinner at this little place out and western RI, and followed this POS for about 5 miles again in my work van.  He was right in front of me, same car, same plate, same cigarette saturated ***hole in the driver seat.  (forgot to mention in original post, the guy had cigarette ash all over him and the inside center console of his car, was disgusting).

I considered blowing off the date and stopping for a good old fashioned brawl with this guy, but decided not to do it in a company vehicle, plus the GF put it in perspective for me later. 

"How often do you get to rear end some SOB with official police sanction?  how angry do you think this guy is that you got away with it, even with a cop there, and he just left with no money or insurance, plus he's the one with the bumper scuff."   ;D