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Title: I know proethe/hansdieselparts.com is junk...
Post by: bbob203 on March 29, 2012, 01:58:08 am
but is his timing TOOL kit at least worth it?
Title: Re: I know proethe/hansdieselparts.com is junk...
Post by: GTiTDi on March 29, 2012, 04:46:19 am
That would be THE LAST thing I would EVER consider buying from him...IDI nural pistons maybe but not a t-belt kit....heard horror stories!
Title: Re: I know proethe/hansdieselparts.com is junk...
Post by: theman53 on March 29, 2012, 05:59:12 am
I cannot even believe you asked this.
Title: Re: I know proethe/hansdieselparts.com is junk...
Post by: bbob203 on March 29, 2012, 06:23:14 am
sorry i meant timing tools  :-[
Title: Re: I know proethe/hansdieselparts.com is junk...
Post by: R.O.R-2.0 on March 29, 2012, 08:42:43 am
i would buy his timing tools if it was my last resort..
Title: Re: I know proethe/hansdieselparts.com is junk...
Post by: bbob203 on March 29, 2012, 08:48:19 am
well I've done some searching around. this guy seems like a real P.O.S. so ill pay more from someone else probably parts place inc. Or does anyone have a suggestion on somewhere to get some timing tools. gonna be swapping my ip soon.
Title: Re: I know proethe/hansdieselparts.com is junk...
Post by: R.O.R-2.0 on March 29, 2012, 09:08:59 am
well I've done some searching around. this guy seems like a real P.O.S. so ill pay more from someone else probably parts place inc. Or does anyone have a suggestion on somewhere to get some timing tools. gonna be swapping my ip soon.

ebay, they sell used, and sometimes NEW snap-on tools for WAY CHEAP.. its usually only the dial indicator tho, but thats the hardest piece of the puzzle. if your creative at all, you can improvise all the other pieces of the tool set once you have the dial indicator..
Title: Re: I know proethe/hansdieselparts.com is junk...
Post by: Luckypabst on March 29, 2012, 09:49:19 am
His timing tools are fine for occasional use. Finish is poor but they get the job done. Not sure if he has addressed it but the IP lock pin was a couple mm too short to work without grinding off some of the knurling, ultimately I picked up a nicer pin from another supplier.

Chris
Title: Re: I know proethe/hansdieselparts.com is junk...
Post by: srgtlord on March 29, 2012, 09:57:55 am
I was satisfied with the tools from parts place inc. Very nice machining especially on the cam-lock tool. In total it cost about $140 but worth every penny
Title: Re: I know proethe/hansdieselparts.com is junk...
Post by: Baron VonZeppelin on March 29, 2012, 04:59:20 pm
The german guy on eBay, quit selling on eBay.
But his was a metric kit - and the gauge was worth the whole kit price.

On a budget :

You can get a pair of 8mm and 10mm compression-fit type gauge adapters for $25. Nice stuff.

A dial gauge from Harbor Freight about $10-20 (same one Prothe sells).
Not metric - but can convert measures yourself.

STANLEY 3" door hinge about $5 (camlock)

10-12mm deep well socket for pump lock

The Prothe kit is bottom of the barrel from start to finish -
but it can be used with the results you want in the end.
Title: Re: I know proethe/hansdieselparts.com is junk...
Post by: pointynoggin on March 29, 2012, 05:52:35 pm
I have proth timing tools and they work fine.  You just use the gauge to get you close anyway then tune by ear.
Title: Re: I know proethe/hansdieselparts.com is junk...
Post by: billybobf on March 29, 2012, 11:48:48 pm
hey, just cuz its an active topic, I have a "rothenberger" or something cam belt, looks brand new came with my torn down 1.6d N/A and a tentioner new in a bag, Im probably going to run it for pre run testing just to prove the engine works, but I dont think I will RUN that belt/tensioner.
Title: Re: I know proethe/hansdieselparts.com is junk...
Post by: JessaBug on March 30, 2012, 06:29:56 am
I wouldn't run it AT ALL.
Title: Re: I know proethe/hansdieselparts.com is junk...
Post by: 8v-of-fury on March 30, 2012, 07:12:35 am
I have timed over 3 dozen engines with my prothe timing tools..

They are just fine.. the actual gauge part of the process does not have to be spot on precise within a thousandth of an inch.. many people time these by ear remember. If you line up all the marks it will run, probably pretty good too.. And this is without using the dial gauge at all yet.

so in summary, Prothes tools will do just fine. Plus you only need the gauge, save some money :).
Title: Re: Re: I know proethe/hansdieselparts.com is junk...
Post by: shwak23 on April 02, 2012, 05:39:26 pm
It is amazing how well the stanley hinge works. The only thing I would like to own is a injection pump plug because my improvised ones are always slightly loose, and a timing gauge obv.

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Title: Re: Re: I know proethe/hansdieselparts.com is junk...
Post by: bbob203 on April 02, 2012, 07:59:27 pm
It is amazing how well the stanley hinge works. The only thing I would like to own is a injection pump plug because my improvised ones are always slightly loose, and a timing gauge obv.

Sent from my DROID X2

11mm craftsmen 1/4 drive socket fits like a glove.
Title: Re: I know proethe/hansdieselparts.com is junk...
Post by: bbob203 on April 02, 2012, 08:01:38 pm
I have timed over 3 dozen engines with my prothe timing tools..

They are just fine.. the actual gauge part of the process does not have to be spot on precise within a thousandth of an inch.. many people time these by ear remember. If you line up all the marks it will run, probably pretty good too.. And this is without using the dial gauge at all yet.

so in summary, Prothes tools will do just fine. Plus you only need the gauge, save some money :).

i found a guy selling a set on vortex all 4 pieces 48 bucks shipped. i have timed by ear before and it worked well. i want to at least try doing it by the book once just to compare.
Title: Re: I know proethe/hansdieselparts.com is junk...
Post by: belchfire on April 02, 2012, 08:27:46 pm
I have a piece of tool steel that I use for a cam lock. It's slightly loose so I make up the difference with a feeler gauge. Been using a 5/8-20 bolt for the IP lock and it's fairly tight. Assembled the block to the trans and used a dial indicator for TDC. Dead nuts was the pointer on the right edge of the 0. Looks like the flywheel markings are reasonably accurate.