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Title: New TDI Jetta Project/DD
Post by: wolfsburged on January 29, 2012, 11:39:18 pm
Haven't posted over in the TDI section before, but now I have many reasons to lurk here as well as the IDI forum!

Picked up this 2001 TDI Jetta GL with 114k for a song. Has an auto that is stuck in park. Will be fixing up and swapping to a manual trans for daily driver status. Very clean exterior, paint is in great condition. Needs a windshield. Interior is a little dirty, hoping to find a nice leather interior to swap.

GL model so crank windows and no sunroof. Nothing to break there.

Engine cranks over great and sounds perfect reving in neutral.

The automatic seems like it is stuck in park/neutral. You can put it in any gear, D, R, 3, 2, 1 and rev, and nothing at all, no attempts to move. Indicator on the cluster moves and indicates correct gear selection.

I can roll it forward in Neutral, but cannot roll it backwards. I would love to at least make this thing be able to roll backwards, not sure why it won't.

Looks like someone was messing with a bit of wiring under the hood. A few electrical related codes showing up. Will have to go through the wiring and fix some of that, who knows maybe the auto will start shifting?!

Pics:
(http://knightcreations.com/TDI/IMG_1950.jpg)

(http://knightcreations.com/TDI/IMG_1951.jpg)

(http://knightcreations.com/TDI/IMG_1952.jpg)

Elusive "TDI, Ja!" edition

(http://knightcreations.com/TDI/IMG_1953.jpg)


(http://knightcreations.com/TDI/IMG_1955.jpg)


(http://knightcreations.com/TDI/IMG_1956.jpg)


(http://knightcreations.com/TDI/IMG_1958.jpg)


(http://knightcreations.com/TDI/IMG_1959.jpg)


(http://knightcreations.com/TDI/IMG_1960.jpg)


(http://knightcreations.com/TDI/IMG_1961.jpg)

Suspect wiring

(http://knightcreations.com/TDI/IMG_1963.jpg)

Suspect wiring

Codes:
19586
http://wiki.ross-tech.com/wiki/index...6/P3130/012592
19586/P3130/012592 - EGR System: Regulation Range Exceeded
Possible Symptoms

    Malfunction Indicator Light (MIL) ON

Possible Causes

    Exhaust Gas Recirculation (EGR) Valve (N18) faulty
    Exhaust Gas Recirculation (EGR) faulty

Possible Solutions

    Check/Replace Exhaust Gas Recirculation (EGR) Valve (N18)
    Check Exhaust Gas Recirculation (EGR) faulty


00652
http://wiki.ross-tech.com/wiki/index.php/00652
00652 - Gear Monitoring: Implausible Signal
Possible Causes

    Automatic Transmission Fluid (ATF) Level not OK
    Vehicle Speed Sensor (G68) dirty/faulty
        Impulse Wheel dirty or Installation faulty
    Gearbox Speed Sensor (G38) dirty/faulty
        Impulse Wheel dirty or Installation faulty
    Multi-Function Switch (F125) faulty (but not detected)
    Clutch or Valve Body faulty
    Automatic Transmission Fluid (ATF) Pump faulty

Possible Solutions

    Check Automatic Transmission Fluid (ATF) Level
    Check/Clean/Replace Vehicle Speed Sensor (G68)
    Check/Clean/Replace Gearbox Speed Sensor (G38)
    Check/Replace Multi-Function Switch (F125)
    Check/Replace Clutch and/or Valve Body

Special Notes

    The ratio of engine speed to gearbox output speed in the currently engaged gear is implausible.
    Slip rpm with torque converter lock-up clutch disengaged must be greater than stall speed.


00300
http://wiki.ross-tech.com/wiki/index.php/00300
00300 - Transmission Fluid Temp. Sensor (G93) - Implausible Signal
Possible Symptoms

    MIL On
    Transmission Not Shifting Properly or in Limp Mode

Possible Causes

    Wiring/Connectors from/to Transmission Fluid Temp. Sensor (G93) faulty
    Voltage Supply for Transmission Fluid Temp. Sensor (G93) faulty
    Transmission Fluid Temp. Sensor (G93) faulty

Possible Solutions

    Check Wiring/Connectors from/to Transmission Fluid Temp. Sensor (G93)
    Check Voltage Supply for Transmission Fluid Temp. Sensor (G93)
    Check Measuring Blocks for Transmission Fluid Temp. Sensor (G93) Readings
    Check / Replace Transmission Fluid Temp. Sensor (G93)


01192
http://wiki.ross-tech.com/wiki/index.php/01192
01192 - Torque Converter Lock-Up Clutch
01192 - Torque Converter Lock-Up Clutch: Mechanical Malfunction

Possible Symptoms

    Torque Converter Lock-Up Clutch slipping

Possible Causes

    Torque Converter Lock-Up Clutch faulty
    Valve Body faulty
    Internal Failure in Transmission

Possible Solutions

    Check Torque Converter Lock-Up Clutch Slip

Special Notes

    When found in 4-Speed Automatic Transmission (01M), check Measuring Value Block (MVB) 007.


00668
http://wiki.ross-tech.com/wiki/index.php/00668
00668 - Supply Voltage Terminal 30: Signal Outside Specifications
00668 - Supply Voltage Terminal 30: Implausible Signal

Possible Causes

    Fuse(s) faulty
    Wiring/Connectors from/to Control Module faulty
    Power Supply (Battery/Generator) faulty

Possible Solutions

    Check Fuse(s)
    Check/Repair Wiring/Connectors from/to Control Module
    Check Power Supply (Battery/Generator)

Special Notes

    When found in an individual control module, it's most likely a local source (e.g. wiring/connectors).
    When found in multiple control modules at the same time, it's most likely a common source (e.g. ground spot, battery, generator).
    Intermittent codes are often stored during low outside temperature when the battery capacity goes down and may be ignored.







00532
http://wiki.ross-tech.com/wiki/index.php/00532
00532 - Supply Voltage B+: Signal too Low
Possible Causes

    Wiring/Connectors from/to Control Module faulty
    Power Supply (Battery/Generator) faulty

Possible Solutions

    Check/Repair Wiring/Connectors from/to Control Module
    Check Power Supply (Battery/Generator)

Special Notes

    When found in an individual control module, it's most likely a local source (e.g. wiring/connectors).
    When found in multiple control modules at the same time, it's most likely a common source (e.g. ground spot, battery, generator).
    Intermittent codes are often stored during low outside temperature when the battery capacity goes down and may be ignored.
    Common with 16946/P0562/001378 - System Voltage: Too Low stored in other control modules.


01316
http://wiki.ross-tech.com/wiki/index.php/01316
01316 - ABS Control Module: No Signal/Communication
Possible Causes

    Wiring/Connector(s) from/to ABS Control Module faulty
    Fault(s) stored in ABS Control Module

Possible Solutions

    Check Wiring/Connector(s) from/to ABS Control Module
    Check Measuring Value Blocks (MVB)
        Usually Measuring Value Blocks (MVB) 125+ show the current Communication Status

01389
No Ross-Tech Wiki info.
VAG-COM info: Tailgate open switch (F124), Short to Ground intermittent.
Title: Re: New TDI Jetta Project/DD
Post by: theman53 on January 30, 2012, 07:54:21 am
since you are swapping a manual, let me know if you figure out how to get reverse lights. I have been through it, somehting on mine just isn't working.
Title: Re: New TDI Jetta Project/DD
Post by: BigVWman on January 30, 2012, 09:47:22 am
Reverse lights aren't that hard, toughest part of swap I had was finding all the parts!
Nice find! You can really score a goo deal when they have the auto, lots of folks unwilling to put in the wrench time to do the swap!
Title: Re: New TDI Jetta Project/DD
Post by: JessaBug on January 30, 2012, 10:31:09 am
Yeah luckily there is a donor locally for the swap. Had that figured out before we jumped on getting the car. Glad we got it though. Very straight. Great starting point for sure. It would be nice to get the auto fixed if possible without too much effort just so we can take our time with the swap. We have VAG-COM and a lot of the codes seem to be related to some electrical issue...bad wiring, bad ground, battery connections not tight enough...something. We'll be tinkering slowly. But it should be fun and a great car once we're done with it. Nice addition to our '84 TD and my GTI!
Title: Re: New TDI Jetta Project/DD
Post by: BigVWman on January 30, 2012, 06:36:02 pm
IF it has the proper level of fluid and still won't move at all even in manual selection my guess would be a hard parts failure inside the trans itself, maybe the slipping got so bad the PO exploded the planetary gear set or melted down the forward clutch pack. Should search some of "coolair" s posts on tdiclub or vortex, he is kinda the 01m guru. I have rebuilt a couple and they are nice but IMO overly complicated and temperamental for what they really need to do. On the swap there are alot of guides(instructables, kill da wabbit, etc). Beware the wiring colors don't match in most of them! Is the donor also a tdi? The gear ratios are better on the tdi versions! lkq is great for the little stuff you forget you need, they were my saving grace!
Title: Re: New TDI Jetta Project/DD
Post by: JessaBug on January 30, 2012, 08:54:21 pm
Donor is another Jetta TDI so that's no problem on the gearing. We've spent a lot of time over at LKQ. Haven't been in awhile (mostly because going there means we spend money and we've needed to save  :P). I'm sure we'll get up there soon but first things first is to see if we can get this thing running again!
Title: Re: New TDI Jetta Project/DD
Post by: wolfsburged on January 30, 2012, 09:22:49 pm
Went over tonight and secured the donor car. It is a 99.5 TDI Jetta. Will be spending some time reading up on the swap and getting my parts list together. It is at a local friendly shop so I am parting it out there and taking the stuff back home in probably 2 weekends.
Title: Re: New TDI Jetta Project/DD
Post by: Baron VonZeppelin on January 30, 2012, 10:59:17 pm
Heavy Duty Congrats on the TDI to you two. :thumbsup:

So how much is a song selling for these days ?
1k 2k 3k ??? Free K ?

A set of 4 wheel dollies would be handy until the tranny comes out.
Spin it around in the shop like a bottle.
Or drag it in and out with a riding lawnmower with dollies under front wheels.

Tranny sounds like its beyond a quick fix.
Maybe disconnect axles from trans flanges ?



Title: Re: New TDI Jetta Project/DD
Post by: wolfsburged on January 30, 2012, 11:10:32 pm
Already got a set of dollies on the front.

Picked this thing up for $2000 cash. Just secured a 5 speed TDI shell minus engine but all other pieces complete for $700. Now the research begins!
Title: Re: New TDI Jetta Project/DD
Post by: Baron VonZeppelin on January 31, 2012, 01:13:52 pm
FukknGroovy Bill !!

Ya'll have this project by the balls and the bases are loaded.
Knock it outta da pahhrk.

Very gelly about being all in on a nice TDI with 114k and 5spd upgrade
for probably under 3K done ! Dang thats heavy
Title: Re: New TDI Jetta Project/DD
Post by: JessaBug on January 31, 2012, 03:38:39 pm
Will be doing a timing belt job too, so probably a bit over 3, but we should be into the car for probably half of what we'd buy it for as a 5-speed already, which we're pretty excited about  ;D

Gonna be slow-going. In-laws in town this weekend...really almost every weekend is spoken for in Feb already so it will be nights after work researching and slowly tinkering. Hopefully come March we'll have more time to get working on this thing more.
Title: Re: New TDI Jetta Project/DD
Post by: Baron VonZeppelin on February 01, 2012, 01:32:11 am
Heck yeh Jess, probably closer to TRIPLE that much around our area for a clean TDI with that low of mileage and a 5spd.
No telling what a dealer would ask.

You guys have really scored big this time.
Real happy for you too.

Looks like all 3 of us will be having to add new chapters in our diesel knowledge now...
Surprisingly, they reconsidered and decided to accept Ingold's "take it or leave it" offer for the 98 TDI 5spd with 116k.

He gets it tomorrow, and he's Real Happy about it.
I wrench all his Diesels, and i'll be the wrench on this one too.

The CarFax has last owners name, going to (hopefully) contact them and (hopefully) find out whether or not they did the belt anytime prior to trading it in.
Title: Re: New TDI Jetta Project/DD
Post by: theman53 on February 01, 2012, 09:10:24 am
To you and your new ride...
(http://i871.photobucket.com/albums/ab273/xx44/Other/citizen-kane-clapping-gif.gif)
Title: Re: New TDI Jetta Project/DD
Post by: JessaBug on February 01, 2012, 09:40:25 am
Luckily, these ALH's aren't that much more complicated than the 1.6's. Already starting to research but we know a few people with them too so we should be good on that. And I know a decent amount of Mk4 stuff so Bill's been asking me a bunch of questions (pretty fun to be the one who knows more for once  :P).
Title: Re: New TDI Jetta Project/DD
Post by: wolfsburged on February 15, 2012, 09:11:35 pm
Collecting swap parts and researching...

Decided for kicks to drain the fluid and inspect the pan on the auto.

Here's some nice metallic sludge on the pan magnet:
(http://knightcreations.com/TDI/IMG_0939.JPG)

Filter was disintegrated:
(http://knightcreations.com/TDI/IMG_0940.JPG)

And of course ATF is not supposed to look like this!
(http://knightcreations.com/TDI/IMG_0944.JPG)

Bought this car as the 5 speed swap donor:
(http://knightcreations.com/TDI/2012-02-10%2011.55.47.jpg)

215K, front end accident. Bought car minus engine for swap. Interior moldy, didn't save much else except the swap bits I needed. But I did end up with a nice selection of spares, including a VNT15 turbo w/ manifold, alternator, instrument cluster (may swap to remove extra PRNDL screen), all pedals (for the small brake pedal), brake booster & master cylinder, center stack w/ HVAC controls, power steering pump, and some misc. other stuff.

(http://knightcreations.com/TDI/IMG_0946.JPG)

(http://knightcreations.com/TDI/IMG_0947.JPG)

Took the power washer and some Purple Power to the engine bay, came out awesome:
(http://knightcreations.com/TDI/IMG_0945.JPG)

Scored this for free! Going to reglue a few small spots starting to come undone and replace the totally sagging headliner in the car:
(http://knightcreations.com/TDI/IMG_0948.JPG)

I think based on needing to do a timing belt on top of the swap, I will pull the core support and use an engine hoist to remove everything, then do the transmission mating out of the car for ease, and then have access to the timing belt side with ease. Also can do more cleanup. I'm planning on pulling the EGR and intake to clean really well. This way I can get in for wiring and also will probably go all the way to swap the manual brake pedal cluster in as well.

Put together my first round of parts order. Clutch/flywheel, lots of one time use bolts, maintenance bits.

More to come (but not rushing!)...
Title: Re: New TDI Jetta Project/DD
Post by: 8v-of-fury on February 15, 2012, 09:16:19 pm
All the work you mentioned will be stupid stupid easy with the engine removed.

DO IT FOR SURE, you will be able to tilt the engine back so you can clean out the intake ports as well and not get any down in the cylinder :)
Title: Re: New TDI Jetta Project/DD
Post by: theman53 on February 15, 2012, 10:20:51 pm
Perhaps did your donor car have an intact glove box? I would buy it if you were not using it. I don't care what color it is.

BTW, good deal on this car again. My last post the guy is still clapping about it.
Title: Re: New TDI Jetta Project/DD
Post by: BigVWman on February 15, 2012, 10:23:58 pm
In the mkiv the brake pedal cluster is the same auto and manual, the clutch is a completely separate pedal. Really easy! The brake master is also the same. You will want to use the manual donors power steering line its routed different than the auto. If your intake looks anything like all of mine did you'll want to do the cleaning off the engine! Careful with the egr and solvents!
Title: Re: New TDI Jetta Project/DD
Post by: wolfsburged on February 15, 2012, 11:14:47 pm
Perhaps did your donor car have an intact glove box? I would buy it if you were not using it. I don't care what color it is.

BTW, good deal on this car again. My last post the guy is still clapping about it.

Nope, sorry. It was broken and moldy!
Title: Re: New TDI Jetta Project/DD
Post by: wolfsburged on February 15, 2012, 11:15:56 pm
In the mkiv the brake pedal cluster is the same auto and manual, the clutch is a completely separate pedal. Really easy! The brake master is also the same. You will want to use the manual donors power steering line its routed different than the auto. If your intake looks anything like all of mine did you'll want to do the cleaning off the engine! Careful with the egr and solvents!

I've done some reading and seen a lot of conversions done keeping the auto pedals, however the brake pedal is larger, and although it doesn't interfere with the clutch, I'd prefer the smaller pedal. Not sure whether I'll cut the auto down or swap pedals, but I have everything to do it either way.
Title: Re: New TDI Jetta Project/DD
Post by: Baron VonZeppelin on February 16, 2012, 12:56:26 am
Must have been the original ATF - yowch.

Tranny dying is probably the only thing that saved the engine from imminent destruction.
Bet they would have driven it til The Belt snapped.
Its probably the original too.

Looking good under the hood.
Going to be a really nice one for you.
Title: Re: New TDI Jetta Project/DD
Post by: 8v-of-fury on February 16, 2012, 12:59:10 am
Must have been the original ATF - yowch.

Its good for the life of the vehicle isnt it..  :o ;D ;) Yup, till she pops lol.
Title: Re: New TDI Jetta Project/DD
Post by: JessaBug on February 21, 2012, 10:10:07 am
Got an engine hoist over the weekend...the entire thing will definitely be coming out. Bumper and all is off already...Bill took the headlights out and got them all nice and polished up so they are clear again.

Haven't taken the timing belt cover off yet, but the serp belt was cracked pretty bad. It looked like this:
(http://sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/430486_550554138718_78700533_30918821_1493726492_n.jpg)
Oddly enough, that's the serp belt from my GTI at over 117k...TB job was done at 90k and the serp belt was bought as part of the kit but I get the sneaking suspicion the local shop didn't actually replace it...*sigh* I imagine the TB looks similar to that on the TDI though.

Got a lot of the parts ordered for the job. Hoping to get some progress in this weekend.
Title: Re: New TDI Jetta Project/DD
Post by: wolfsburged on February 21, 2012, 10:05:22 pm
Got the front bumper and core support off.

The headlights were a bit hazy so I decided to try the 3M headlight restoration kit that uses a drill. This is the product:
http://www.amazon.com/3M-39008-Headlight-Restoration-System/dp/B001AIZ5HY/
All I've got to say is that wow! Major difference and not too hard either.

Before:
(http://knightcreations.com/TDI/IMG_1964.JPG)

First lamp done for reference:
(http://knightcreations.com/TDI/IMG_1965.JPG)

And final product:
(http://knightcreations.com/TDI/IMG_1966.JPG)

Clutch and flywheel, maintenance parts are in. Waiting on timing belt kit, should do some more work this weekend. Hurt my back on Sunday so gotta take it easy for a bit anyway...
Title: Re: New TDI Jetta Project/DD
Post by: Baron VonZeppelin on February 22, 2012, 02:37:55 am
Nice Results on those lights WolfB ^5

Jessa you lost me on that serp belt somehow. lol
Is it off your GTI - or off the TDI ?

It looks like 60-80k on that belt.
Or it was velly elcheepoh
Title: Re: New TDI Jetta Project/DD
Post by: JessaBug on February 22, 2012, 10:52:27 am
Its from my GTI...but the TDI's belt looked just like it. I think its an original belt at 117k. I know the shop that did the timing belt job...makes me not want to go there even more now since I can be pretty darn sure the alt belt wasn't changed on my car (2 years and less than 30k ago). Seeing the TDI belt at 114k looking the same also helped me think that its still original too.
Title: Re: New TDI Jetta Project/DD
Post by: wolfsburged on February 25, 2012, 06:57:35 pm
Progress today!

(http://knightcreations.com/TDI/IMG_0981.JPG)
Rad support gone

(http://knightcreations.com/TDI/IMG_1001.JPG)
Front end out, hooking up the new engine hoist/load leveler

(http://knightcreations.com/TDI/IMG_1002.JPG)
Engine and auto trans is out

(http://knightcreations.com/TDI/IMG_1003.JPG)
Going to do a little more cleaning and then the wiring mods in here

(http://knightcreations.com/TDI/IMG_1005.JPG)
Good stopping point for today

Next up will be removing the auto trans from the engine, then pulling the intake and EGR to clean. I have a set of 4 new CV boots to repack the manual axles with. Then to drain and refill the manual trans, replace the seals, release bearing, etc.
Title: Re: New TDI Jetta Project/DD
Post by: rallydiesel on February 25, 2012, 07:37:10 pm
You'll have a nice car there when you're done. Good job!
Title: Re: New TDI Jetta Project/DD
Post by: Baron VonZeppelin on February 25, 2012, 10:20:33 pm
Progress today!

(http://knightcreations.com/TDI/IMG_0981.JPG)


I look at that picture with all the fiddle faddle going everywhere -
makes me want to go hug and kiss and love up on my Mk1 & 2's so hard. LoL

It'll be a real creampuff deluxe when you and jess get done.
I'd do it too, if i sourced the kind of Buy-In you guys are sitting on.
This is pretty epic in the awesome category.
Groovy Man

 
Title: Re: New TDI Jetta Project/DD
Post by: BigVWman on February 26, 2012, 02:03:21 pm
With that engine out its easy to clean up what you couldn't get while it was in! Also cleaning up some of the old auto wiring should be easier with it out now!
Title: Re: New TDI Jetta Project/DD
Post by: wolfsburged on February 26, 2012, 06:51:54 pm
Took the intake and EGR valve off today. Lots of crud inside! Going to go soak these in the parts cleaner at work for a day or so and then start with the scrubbing.

(http://knightcreations.com/TDI/IMG_1007.JPG)
EGR valve

(http://knightcreations.com/TDI/IMG_1009.JPG)

(http://knightcreations.com/TDI/IMG_1010.JPG)
Intake

Un-mated the automatic.

(http://knightcreations.com/TDI/IMG_1014.JPG)

Here's a look at the timing belt... I'd say it is original and needs replacing!
(http://knightcreations.com/TDI/IMG_1016.JPG)

And got the auto shifter out:
(http://knightcreations.com/TDI/IMG_1017.JPG)

Up to come this week I'll be doing the wiring changes, some more cleaning, repacking grease on the manual axles, etc etc.
Title: Re: New TDI Jetta Project/DD
Post by: R.O.R-2.0 on February 27, 2012, 12:32:47 pm
Progress today!

(http://knightcreations.com/TDI/IMG_0981.JPG)


I look at that picture with all the fiddle faddle going everywhere -
makes me want to go hug and kiss and love up on my Mk1 & 2's so hard. LoL


It'll be a real creampuff deluxe when you and jess get done.
I'd do it too, if i sourced the kind of Buy-In you guys are sitting on.
This is pretty epic in the awesome category.
Groovy Man

 

ive been working with an Audi GT coupe.. clutch & timing belt.. every second i work on it, the more i LOVE my mk1&2 cars.. hell, mk3s arent even bad now!! and i used to not like them very much.
Title: Re: New TDI Jetta Project/DD
Post by: JessaBug on February 27, 2012, 01:21:44 pm
They have made some things more complicated for sure, but being able to take the whole front end off...yeah, loving that. Spent more time cursing the Mk1 for not having that ability when we did the rebuild. And really, the work, while time consuming, has been pretty easy so far.
Title: Re: New TDI Jetta Project/DD
Post by: R.O.R-2.0 on February 27, 2012, 01:26:15 pm
They have made some things more complicated for sure, but being able to take the whole front end off...yeah, loving that. Spent more time cursing the Mk1 for not having that ability when we did the rebuild. And really, the work, while time consuming, has been pretty easy so far.

the mk1 is the only one that doesnt have an easily removable front clip.. mk2 and later are all easy removable.. mk2 only has like 5 (maybe 8) screws holding it on! takes like 10 mins to pull the core support on one!

honestly, ive never really felt it necessary for the mk1 to have a removable front clip.. theres plenty of room once you remove the radiator.. oh, wait, you guys have a/c, your radiator isnt easily removable.. im sorry.
Title: Re: New TDI Jetta Project/DD
Post by: wolfsburged on February 27, 2012, 10:05:24 pm
A little bit of cleaning later, and viola:

(http://knightcreations.com/TDI/IMG_1020.JPG)

(http://knightcreations.com/TDI/IMG_1021.JPG)

Not perfect but much much better!

Also had the machinist at work make these up for me. Won't have to deal with this crud again!

(http://knightcreations.com/TDI/IMG_1022.JPG)

Put in some more parts orders today...
Title: Re: New TDI Jetta Project/DD
Post by: wolfsburged on March 04, 2012, 08:33:15 pm
Got a lot done this weekend.

Installed the new flywheel, clutch, and pressure plate. Then mated the transmission:
(http://knightcreations.com/TDI/IMG_1023.JPG)

Timing belt and waterpump, all rollers and tensioner replaced.

Here's the old belt and stuff:
(http://knightcreations.com/TDI/IMG_1024.JPG)

(http://knightcreations.com/TDI/IMG_1031.JPG)

New stuff on:
(http://knightcreations.com/TDI/IMG_1033.JPG)

And all wrapped up:
(http://knightcreations.com/TDI/IMG_1035.JPG)

I drilled and tapped the intake manifold and exhaust manifold for a boost fitting and EGT probe respectively. Went with the same Aircraft Spruce pyrometer probe as I did on the '84 Jetta. Ran the EGT leads through some fire sleeving. Installed and also installed the new blockoff plates on the EGR.
(http://knightcreations.com/TDI/IMG_1030.JPG)

Wrestled the automatic gas/brake pedal cluster out. I decided to run the proper manual pedal cluster to avoid having to cut the pedal down. Now I also have a donor drive by wire gas pedal for possible future projects.
(http://knightcreations.com/TDI/IMG_1025.JPG)

Getting this ball from the socket on the pedal was fun. Thanks a ton to Evan to lend me the proper tool to get it off without breaking it.
(http://knightcreations.com/TDI/IMG_1026.JPG)

New pedals in:
(http://knightcreations.com/TDI/IMG_1028.JPG)

Manual shift box installed:
(http://knightcreations.com/TDI/IMG_1037.JPG)

Then finally cleaned and repacked the outer CVs with new grease.
(http://knightcreations.com/TDI/IMG_1036.JPG)

So now all that is left to do is the wiring changes, hang the clutch pedal, reinstall engine and transmission, hook everything back up, fill with oil, coolant, and power steering fluid, recode ECU with VAG-COM, check timing with VAG-COM, and try it out!

Also just for kicks, went out on a little photoshoot on Sunday. Here are the other two VWs:
(http://knightcreations.com/ghetto/images/ncdubs/mar2012/IMG_2031.jpg)
Title: Re: New TDI Jetta Project/DD
Post by: Baron VonZeppelin on March 06, 2012, 08:28:03 pm
Moving RIGHT ALONG with style and ease.
Nice update and progress !

Those wheels really look good on Jessies GTI. tough stuff - are they stock ?

But that old 84 is still the toughest looking VW around.
itza badbad muggafugga
Title: Re: New TDI Jetta Project/DD
Post by: rallydiesel on March 06, 2012, 08:55:15 pm
You should also remove the egr cooler as it serves no purpose now.
Title: Re: New TDI Jetta Project/DD
Post by: wolfsburged on March 07, 2012, 08:16:44 am
The wheels on the GTI are some ebay specials that vaguely resemble some BBS wheels. Looking for a set of Aristos which were the original equipment.

Wiring is about 80% done, should be finished tonight. Clutch pedal is hung.
Title: Re: New TDI Jetta Project/DD
Post by: wolfsburged on March 07, 2012, 10:54:55 pm
Wiring is done. New thermostat in. New serpentine belt tensioner installed.

Picking up the EGR bypass coolant hose tomorrow. Took the cooler back off the motor. Have some new silicon vacuum line to replace the fraying old lines with, and some Viton injector return lines to install.

Otherwise need to do a little cleaning, then ready to reinstall everything.

Picked up a New South 0-35 PSI boost gauge.

Just found out that the New South EGT gauge I bought is apparently incompatible with the Aircraft Spruce EGT probe I have installed. Not sure what I'm going to do there. Need to find out more info on what type of thermocouple the New South takes, and if the probe is a decently slim one. If not, I will keep the known Aircraft Spruce probe and get a different gauge.
Title: Re: New TDI Jetta Project/DD
Post by: R.O.R-2.0 on March 07, 2012, 11:02:19 pm
You should also remove the egr cooler as it serves no purpose now.

thats what i was thinking..
Title: Re: New TDI Jetta Project/DD
Post by: Baron VonZeppelin on March 08, 2012, 01:18:01 am
Can't remember if you already mentioned it - but does the Mk4 have a snow screen diffusor over the air intake port of air cleaner box ?

It was fairly nasty on Ingolds 98 with similar mileage.
Title: Re: New TDI Jetta Project/DD
Post by: wolfsburged on March 11, 2012, 02:02:40 pm
Cleaned the snow screen, wasn't too bad.

Put it all back together yesterday. Got it started today and drove it around the block!

Need to advance timing a bit after the manual coding to increase IQ to fix idle stutter.
Title: Re: New TDI Jetta Project/DD
Post by: wolfsburged on March 11, 2012, 09:51:29 pm
Saturday progress was to install the engine and trans, hook everything up, fill with fluids, put bumper back on.

Only pic mid-progress:
(http://knightcreations.com/TDI/IMG_1066.JPG)

Sunday hooked up the VAG COM and switched coding to manual transmission. Checked new functions - reverse light switch works, and was able to start the car, so starter interlock wiring is good.

First impression on the clutch is that it is extremely light! If I had not read that people thought this combo was almost strangely light I would maybe have been concerned. Regardless, was able to move the car and drive it around the block fine, found all gears.

First drive had a stutter at idle, which I expected based on the swap documentation. Checked timing once warm, and it was right near the red line on the TDI Timing graph in VAG COM, i.e. within spec but retarded. Also checked IQ and at idle it was fluctuating 0.6-1.0, which explained the stutter.

Advanced the timing, now it is sitting advanced, but within spec. Was able to adapt the IQ via software to max out at 3.0. Stutter is now gone. The general knowledge is that this should be 3-5 at idle. Not sure if I should increase this, but any further will have to be accomplished via the "hammer mod". Otherwise seems to drive fine as set.

First two passes around the blocks, had no power assist on the brakes. Realized there was a slit in the hard vacuum line to the booster. Covered with electrical tape and hose clamped, now I have brakes!

(http://knightcreations.com/TDI/IMG_2038.JPG)

(http://knightcreations.com/TDI/IMG_2039.JPG)

Washed the car for the first time and vacuumed. Still need to go back with the steam cleaner and hit the seats again, but they did come much cleaner than the first time.

(http://knightcreations.com/TDI/IMG_2035.JPG)

(http://knightcreations.com/TDI/IMG_2036.JPG)

(http://knightcreations.com/TDI/IMG_2037.JPG)

Still need to reinstall interior trim around the shifter and lower dash. Also have to install the gauges and install my MP3 CD player.
Title: Re: New TDI Jetta Project/DD
Post by: Baron VonZeppelin on March 12, 2012, 01:54:02 am
Great job Bill and Jess.
Car looks a lot happier now, than it did with the autocrappic and cloudy eyeballs.

When you adjusted the timing - was it done mechanically - or was it close enough that the software was able to handle it ?
Title: Re: New TDI Jetta Project/DD
Post by: JessaBug on March 12, 2012, 10:02:50 am
We had to manually adjust the timing but software handled the IQ adjustment. Might need a tad more IQ adjustment (which will need to be done manually via the "hammer mod") but it runs well enough for now to get it on the road 8)
Title: Re: New TDI Jetta Project/DD
Post by: rallydiesel on March 12, 2012, 04:03:25 pm
When you adjusted the timing - was it done mechanically - or was it close enough that the software was able to handle it ?

You always have to adjust timing manually. VCDS just takes the place of the dial gauge on tdi's.
Title: Re: New TDI Jetta Project/DD
Post by: Baron VonZeppelin on March 13, 2012, 12:59:27 am
Ah - Ha

Thanks Rally - i had just come here to ask that exact question - for verification.

I was under an impression that Vcom was able to make "some" adjustment to the timing. And wanted to ask to verify that.

The AHU i just recently did, dial gauged at about 0.43 after new components.
It cranked and ran about same as before - or so.

Today i bumped it up to 0.685 (tried twice for 0.70 and called it close enough at that). Throttle response does seem peppier just revving in the driveway now. I was just going to get it closer to spec for now - in case Vcom couldn't handle that much slack.

Good to finally know that Vcom can't/doesn't handle any slack like that.



So what is IQ ? Injection Quantity ?
Is it the same as adjusting the fuel screw on a 1.6 Inj Pump ?

I think this one might be a tad on the rich side.

Title: Re: New TDI Jetta Project/DD
Post by: JessaBug on March 19, 2012, 12:47:33 pm
Took it on its first highway trip this weekend. Drove just shy of 300 miles (299.5) and got 52.8 MPG!! Yup, this one is a keeper  ;D
Title: Re: New TDI Jetta Project/DD
Post by: rallydiesel on March 19, 2012, 03:28:00 pm

So what is IQ ? Injection Quantity ?
Is it the same as adjusting the fuel screw on a 1.6 Inj Pump ?

I think this one might be a tad on the rich side.

Yes it's injection quantity. It's not quite as extreme as adjusting the fuel screw. I'm not sure exactly how it is physically controlled but I think it changes the range of the accelerator lever slightly up or down.
Title: Re: New TDI Jetta Project/DD
Post by: wolfsburged on March 19, 2012, 11:23:53 pm
Pretty happy with the first highway tank of 52.86 MPG beating my best mileage out of the '84 (51.2 on that same drive).

A few minor things still to do:
Need a light bulb behind the HVAC controls, burnt out
Boost and EGT gauges installed. Having issues getting EGT probe to read. New South claims their gauge is a K type thermocouple, however it is not working with my probe.
Need a new spare tire/wheel. There is another stock alloy in the trunk but has a horrible bend and busted tire.
Want to find a leather wrapped wheel, or buy a wheelskin wrap. Foam is falling apart in my hands.
Need to install new headliner to stop the flapping in the breeze!
Got the Sony stereo installed out of the Honda, however now the front passenger speaker has blown
Have a new cut switchblade key. Need to get it programmed to immobilizer
Need to get EGR function removed from software (hopefully later this week).
Title: Re: New TDI Jetta Project/DD
Post by: Baron VonZeppelin on March 19, 2012, 11:55:11 pm
Wonder why it only got 52.8 mpg ?
You didn't take the antenna and mirrors off ?
Maybe the paint needs a better polishing ?
Has Jess gained a lot of weight recently ?

hahahahaaaaahhaaaa

Thats great news
And great MPG !
Sounds like this is working out Really Well
High 5's to both of ya
Title: Re: New TDI Jetta Project/DD
Post by: Baron VonZeppelin on March 20, 2012, 01:30:21 pm
almost forgot

Go Wolf Pack !