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Title: Oil From Turbo Intake
Post by: jaysen71581 on January 13, 2012, 08:26:31 am
Ok so i fired up the rabbit TD this morning to take it to get my battery tray welded in when i go to pop the hood i saw oil spewing out of the turbo so i check my dipstick and i had no oil in there.  Im thinking blown seal, its a K04 turbo, in the mean time i have an NA setup i can put on to make due but what options for a turbo do i have?
Title: Re: Oil From Turbo Intake
Post by: 8v-of-fury on January 13, 2012, 08:51:11 am
Any vw 8v exhaust manifold with the turbo attached will physically bolt up to your motor.

This is a good opportunity to think of how you could change the motor for the better. Do you want better low end torque or top end power.. could step it down to a k03, or step up to a T3..
Title: Re: Oil From Turbo Intake
Post by: jaysen71581 on January 13, 2012, 02:33:18 pm
Well i built the car for MPG's, i wouldnt mind if it pulled alittle harder on acceleration, what T3 should i go with i see them on ebay from around $100-200
Title: Re: Oil From Turbo Intake
Post by: 8v-of-fury on January 13, 2012, 02:36:23 pm
From my readings, I have found that sustaining higher boost while cruising can actually be very beneficial for MPG.. I think you would have tons of fun stepping down to a k03. You will make boost pretty much right off idle, and have boost throughout your rpm range. Will you be taking the engine much over 4000rpms.. if not then you need not worry about high rpm flow capability.
Title: Re: Oil From Turbo Intake
Post by: jaysen71581 on January 13, 2012, 02:43:12 pm
not really its going to be a daily for my brother driving 60 miles to work and back..
Title: Re: Oil From Turbo Intake
Post by: jaysen71581 on January 13, 2012, 02:46:20 pm
Unfortunately im looking at the K03's and they mount differently to the manifold, i kinda want something that i can just bolt on and go.
Title: Re: Oil From Turbo Intake
Post by: 8v-of-fury on January 13, 2012, 02:48:20 pm
if you were to get one with a manifold it would be a bolt on and go type ordeal. But fully bolt on and go is better. I am unaware what mates up to a k04 manifold. sorry.
Title: Re: Oil From Turbo Intake
Post by: jaysen71581 on January 13, 2012, 03:08:51 pm
http://www.ebay.com/itm/New-T3-T4-T04E-Turbocharger-63-A-R-Turbo-Hatch-Civic-/110603509164?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&vxp=mtr&hash=item19c07b9dac
This is what im looking at.
Title: Re: Oil From Turbo Intake
Post by: Swartzvw on January 13, 2012, 03:24:32 pm
http://www.ebay.com/itm/New-T3-T4-T04E-Turbocharger-63-A-R-Turbo-Hatch-Civic-/110603509164?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&vxp=mtr&hash=item19c07b9dac
This is what im looking at.

I wouldnt go with a cheap ebay turbo. You want a name brand Garrett or KKK.
Title: Re: Oil From Turbo Intake
Post by: jaysen71581 on January 13, 2012, 03:27:12 pm
The car has a KKK turbo in it, i wonder how much it would be to rebuild....
Title: Re: Oil From Turbo Intake
Post by: theman53 on January 13, 2012, 04:45:54 pm
350.00 at the g pop shop, then they open it and it grows if you need hard parts. If everything is reusable 350. plus shipping from them.
Title: Re: Oil From Turbo Intake
Post by: fatmobile on January 13, 2012, 08:01:55 pm
 How's your block pressure?
 Vacuum pump leaks filling the block with air?
 Block vent on the front of the block?
Title: Re: Oil From Turbo Intake
Post by: jaysen71581 on January 14, 2012, 06:39:13 am
new vaccum hoses, i guess it was good because it operated the brakes and they stop well.. Only thing i can figure is the turbo is about 25 years old, as with my IP seals go bad over time, i think it was just cold enough and there was enough thermal shock on the seals in the turbo to have a blow out, the block is fine.  Once i get my garage cleaned out ill have the car inside converting it to NA till i decide on a turbo.
Title: Re: Oil From Turbo Intake
Post by: R.O.R-2.0 on January 14, 2012, 08:11:12 am
http://www.ebay.com/itm/New-T3-T4-T04E-Turbocharger-63-A-R-Turbo-Hatch-Civic-/110603509164?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&vxp=mtr&hash=item19c07b9dac
This is what im looking at.

if you buy this turbo, you may have to replace your engine after the turbo explodes..
Title: Re: Oil From Turbo Intake *Update*
Post by: jaysen71581 on February 19, 2012, 11:02:51 am
So i finally got around to pulling the turbo off the car and to my surprise the turbo that was on the car was a K24 triple K turbo, ive never heard of a k24 turbo, is it any good and is it worth rebuilding?
Title: Re: Oil From Turbo Intake
Post by: theman53 on February 19, 2012, 12:10:20 pm
The KKK K24 came on all the TD cars in the 80's. The eco was the one that got the small KKK K14, but other than that all the stock TD cars came with the K24 or the Garret T3 of the same size.
Title: Re: Oil From Turbo Intake
Post by: jaysen71581 on February 19, 2012, 05:40:08 pm
So its a good turbo worth rebuilding or should i get a k04?
Title: Re: Oil From Turbo Intake
Post by: vanbcguy on February 19, 2012, 06:26:10 pm
I like my K24 plenty.  It's a big honking turbo that responds really well to an intercooler and well above 'factory' boost levels. 

It's all about what's important to you.  If you're cool with letting your engine wind up a bit before it has full power it's a great way to go.  You can get kits for it from gpopshop.com and there's a howto for rebuilding a K24 hanging out around here somewhere.  It's a far better bet getting it rebuilt than a dodgy eBay turbo for sure.
Title: Re: Oil From Turbo Intake *Update*
Post by: R.O.R-2.0 on February 20, 2012, 10:16:52 am
So i finally got around to pulling the turbo off the car and to my surprise the turbo that was on the car was a K24 triple K turbo, ive never heard of a k24 turbo, is it any good and is it worth rebuilding?

oh yea, definitely worth it if its not a wasted core..
Title: Re: Oil From Turbo Intake
Post by: jaysen71581 on February 21, 2012, 01:16:57 pm
RoR your using a gasser intake setup?
Title: Re: Oil From Turbo Intake
Post by: R.O.R-2.0 on February 21, 2012, 01:21:21 pm
RoR your using a gasser intake setup?

yea, with a flipped exhaust manifold and audi 2.0TD K24 turbo..

its not on there right this second, but it will be used again, unless i build a passenger performance style intake for it in the near future..
Title: Re: Oil From Turbo Intake
Post by: jb86 on February 21, 2012, 05:31:01 pm
I rebuilt mine
I pulled the compressor wheels off the intake
Sent it to g pop
It's about half the dollars if you rebuild yourself
They will supply all the parts
Balance it for you
Then you re assemble it
Just take it apart carefully
The aluminum turbine wheel needs to be warmed with a propane torch to expand slightly
Then it lifts off
The nut maybe left hand thread
Call g pop
They explained or thoroughly to me
I don't see how they made money off me
I called them so many times
Jon