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General Information => General => Topic started by: R.O.R-2.0 on January 05, 2012, 02:29:02 pm
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ok, well, i figured i better post up some pics for proof that the swap really happened, and in under a week too..
anyways, heres pics of my late 92 Jetta..
(http://i702.photobucket.com/albums/ww28/Dubsmoke/P1000501.jpg)
and some engine bay shots too:
(http://i702.photobucket.com/albums/ww28/Dubsmoke/P1000505.jpg)
(http://i702.photobucket.com/albums/ww28/Dubsmoke/P1000499.jpg)
and a shot of where i added the cold start handle..
(http://i702.photobucket.com/albums/ww28/Dubsmoke/P1000507.jpg)
thanks for looking!!
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Nice! But needs some snowflake wheels to round it out.
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Nice! But needs some snowflake wheels to round it out.
uh, i think not.. flakes are my LEAST favorite VW wheel..
prolly gonna put my Enkei 92s on it for the time being, then throw the 17" wheels back on it once i can afford tires..
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It must be nice to live somewhere where rust isn't a concern.
Nice ride.
Is your CCV venting to atmosphere?
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It must be nice to live somewhere where rust isn't a concern.
Nice ride.
Is your CCV venting to atmosphere?
rust isnt a concern? your aware i live in one of the wettest places on the planet? should see the datsun pickup that my jetta was sitting next to.. it basically has electrolysis. thank god rust isnt contageous!
i live like 20 miles from the pacific ocean.. rust is EVERYWHERE.. as i waxed the car, i found lots of rust spots..
LOL @ the rust not being a concern comment..
and yes, my breather is just a road draft tube.. i have a spotless intake tract, and plan to keep it that way..
(our cars rust from the outside in, not from the inside out, like they do in canada)
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I guess it's all relative. Your rust would be nice to have up here. If you had to get close enough to wax your car to notice the rust, you don't have rust :P
Take my old engine bay for example.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v603/burnyourmoney/DSC08459.jpg)
Rusty master, fuel filter bracket, alt bracket, etc. Much worse than yours. The return springs on your pump are still green. You won't see that up here.
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lol, dang.. now that is some RUST..
and most of the reason everything isnt rusty under the hood, is because i keep it clean. i wash under the hood a half dozen times a year, atleast..
spraying simple green on a warm engine, and letting it soak into the grime, then hitting it with simple green again keeps it nice n clean.
the only reason my pump looks as good as it does, is because its got ~20k miles on it..
i like my engine bays to be basically SPOTLESS.. i hate getting super dirty when i work on my cars.
on a side note tho, i have had a fuel leak for a year or so, never could source the leak until i pulled the injection pump off.. there was a bolt missing out of the cold start advance setup. one of the 2 main bolts that holds the advance to the pump body.. anyways, fixed that, and now i have a DRY engine.. its always had a small drip. just enough to keep the engine wet with fuel, and enough to weaken the timing belt and make it snap..
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I don't know about that generalized statement that our coastal cars rust from the outside in. I have seen a few that were rusted like the one posted here on the forum about the floorboards gone. When the seals on windows leak and you don't know it until one cold winter day the entire inside of the car is kind of wet feeling and you pull back the carpets to see an inch of water. Or you know they leak so you have to drill 1/8 th inch holes in the floor to keep 4-5 inches from building up during the week.
That rusting engine bay reminded me of my cars when I lived in Michigan. Now there's rust, both inside and out. Stupid salt.
I like you like to keep it clean where I work and the car needs to get washed when it road grimes up. Brushing against the car should not leave a mark on the pants that embarrass you later. Gee did you get side swiped on the way to the meeting?
Simple green? that simple eh? Going to have to try that next time, thanks.
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Even though my car needs new floorpans, the undercoating by the fuel tank is still there after 23 years. The straps holding the fuel tank may need to be replaced though. And the fenders have the usual rust behind the wheel, and I totally forgot about the leaking windshield due to rust there as well. But with the road salt we get here, usually a few days after most of the runoff is gone, I'll spring the extra $3 and get the under chassis bath. Do it with the newer cars. And when I get the interior done and the door panels are popped off, I may find new rust there as well.
Oh, the joys of owning a VW Mk2...Now if I could only work on them as well as some of you guys. :)
Stay safe, stay well. Jimmy.
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If the dumb pics still worked in my build thread you could see the rust I dealt with. Floors were gone, drivers side totally and passenger almost there. Our cars here in Ohio rust everywhere. They rust in/out and out/in and some in the middle too. My master cylinder I put in last december, by febuary it looked like the one pictured above. The salt gets in your shoes and you bring it in to the car in the snow slush mix. The barely working heater melts it off and after enough of it gets through the floor mat then the carpet loves to suck it up and hold it there. Add a little leak or rain from a slightly open window and it is nicely distributed over the entire floor section.
The best and cheapest thing we have going here is to "paint" your car with oil or a diesel/oil mix underneath and in the door jams. Drive it down a dirt road that is nice and dusty and as long as you don't scrape it off you are good for the winter. Usually takes scraping or pressure washer to get it back off. Leaves a nice protective film. Undercoat here only partially works, sometimes makes it worse as salt gets in but won't come out.
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I leave my engine bay greasy with diesel grime to protect it. ;)
I washed the bay of the 81 I picked up with over 900,000kms on it and the engine bay was PERFECT under all the grime. Like day it left the factory perfect, magazine perfect. Grime for the win ;)
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Knuckle swap today ;D
going from 92 mexi jetta GL brakes (9.4")
to girling 54s off a 92 wolfy GLI (10.1")
(and good wheel bearings)
my drivers side bearing started going boobs up pretty bad last night..
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Sweet ride meng. I lol'd at the "needs some snowflakes" comment, knowing your aversion to those wheels. Your Enkei's will look nice on that.
What is going on with you PCV? You got that runnin to a catch can , or just venting to atmo?
Go get some KIWI Leather Dye homie!
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I'm curious why swap to mkii? I like the sitting position and the ride quality better in mk2s but I like the handling and looks much better in a mki. I also think snow flakes are ugly the only thing cool about them is they came on mki gtis. Interesting use of the aba vc haha. And I gotta agree with Tyler from what ive seen online pnw has no idea what rust is. I don't think they salt the roads in the pnw do they? I once saw a guy on vortex chop a mki scirocco up to to pieces because he thought it was too rusty. It only had surface rust and quite a bit of it but not even pinhole through anywhere and hardly any on the body mostly underneath. Man over here there would have been blood shed trying to get a mki scirocco in that good of shape. Worst rust I saw was in Michigan this summer I didn't see any cars more than 10 years old and any car more than three years old had huge deep pitted rust spots. I think maybe the Detroit three have payed the state is aggressively use salt. Anyways cool mkii haha
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Trev0rbr I like this conspiracy theory. I think maybe the Detroit three have payed the state is aggressively use salt. Having lived in both the lower and upper peninsula of Michigan I can tell you that perhaps your correct. Pay to salt the roads, the salt eats the cars, we sell more cars faster. Now that the companies are going broke the state is without enough money to maintain the roads. Oh potholes anyone. They have plenty of big ones. Another twist to the theory. The car co.s pay for the patch materials but require that all holes only get 1/2 filled. That way people hit them at full speed and tear up the car faster.
In all honesty the weather has everything to do with it. It is warm enough most times in and around the Detroit area that salt melts the snow. Lowers the freeze point or something. Have to check a science book on that. Up where the weather is colder that wouldn't work so they put sand on the roads. Or plow them as there is enough to do that. Traffic and common sense has a lot to do with it as well. Those folks have to get to work in large numbers and they need to do it safely, so salt is the answer once again.
Now that I live here in Oregon, even along the coast, I am just overwhelmed at the condition of my 1981 car. Nuts and bolts are still looking new to me. I didn't buy it from here I brought it here from the Roseburg area about 50 miles inland. So I am seeing a bit of rust on things you talk about but so far not a problem. Perhaps undercoating is in order.
That was the single biggest change for those in the Detroit area, when manufacturing started to apply factory undercoating. Suddenly cars and trucks were not rotting away in 4 or 5 years. Outsmarted themselves they did. I think they had to as the competition was already doing it.
Out to the MK1 for some wrench, without the knuckle busting. DAS
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Cars in the Pacific Northwest experience surface/cosmetic rust.
Where they use salt extensively, your car just turns into a galvanic cell. It's not the same.
I don't like it. It destroys cars, hurts the fishes, kills trees, attracts deers to the roadway, pollutes the water... I'm not sure what the alternatives are but some states don't seem to do it as much.
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I'm curious why swap to mkii? I like the sitting position and the ride quality better in mk2s but I like the handling and looks much better in a mki. I also think snow flakes are ugly the only thing cool about them is they came on mki gtis. Interesting use of the aba vc haha. And I gotta agree with Tyler from what ive seen online pnw has no idea what rust is. I don't think they salt the roads in the pnw do they? I once saw a guy on vortex chop a mki scirocco up to to pieces because he thought it was too rusty. It only had surface rust and quite a bit of it but not even pinhole through anywhere and hardly any on the body mostly underneath. Man over here there would have been blood shed trying to get a mki scirocco in that good of shape. Worst rust I saw was in Michigan this summer I didn't see any cars more than 10 years old and any car more than three years old had huge deep pitted rust spots. I think maybe the Detroit three have payed the state is aggressively use salt. Anyways cool mkii haha
mk1s handle like a bag of jello..
mk2 had 85k orig miles..
the mk1 had over 250k mi on it.
also a completely worn out suspension/wheel bearings
worst color combination ive ever seen on a rabbit
the mk2 handles 1000x better
looks better while doing it too.
plus, a rabbit is not a jetta. nothing will ever fix that. and i wanted a jetta, not a rabbit.
my mk1 was pretty on the outside.. thats about it. my jetta is pretty all over..
so, there were wuite a few reasons for me to swap to the mk2.
the added suspension travel was the biggest thing in my books.. the mk1s have such little travel that i am CONSTANTLY blowing out struts, and killing wheel bearings.. ive had no such issues with mk2 cars..
plus, im 6'7" tall.. i need as much room as i can get in a vehicle.. and a rabbit is NOT where its at..
@ baja -
they use vinegar mixed with lemon juice around here on the roads. no salt.
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Westy rabbits handle like a bag of jello..
There ya go fixed it lol.
Mk1 Jetta's even base model ones handle great.
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All my mkis had suspension upgrades so maybe my opinion is a bit skewed haha a1 is not a stiff chassis at all and the wheel bearings indeed suck I've had to replace them on all three mkis I had. Mkii height adjustable seats in a mki help I noticed in my coupe when I swapped to them that I could produce a lot more leg room but mkis just have like a ***ty placement of the shifter and everything else for that matter I can't imagine being 6'7 and driving one my friend who's 6'3 sits with his knees digging in my glove box when ever he rides with me haha
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6'2" and i drive an 84 with 91 height adjustable seats. its perfect.
I feel that the mk3 is the best handling I felt. Front and rear swaybar on a TDI.
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6'2" and i drive an 84 with 91 height adjustable seats. its perfect.
I feel that the mk3 is the best handling I felt. Front and rear swaybar on a TDI.
my car has better suspension than a mk3, and is a lighter car..
mk2 and mk3 have almost IDENTICAL suspension.
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Speaking of lighter weight, have you noticed a big difference between your Rabbit and Jetta since you did the engine swap? One would think the 700lbs of extra weight would be noticeable. 1800lb Rabbit vs 2500lb Jetta.
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Speaking of lighter weight, have you noticed a big difference between your Rabbit and Jetta since you did the engine swap? One would think the 700lbs of extra weight would be noticeable. 1800lb Rabbit vs 2500lb Jetta.
theres no way this jetta is 2500.. it does not drive like a 2500# car..
it still goes just fine really.. had it going almost 120 the other day, just rolled on it in 5th gear from 60..
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Yeah, the weight written on the registration for my 1991 is 2288lbs. Last time I weighed my car with fuel, me and my toolbox in it, it was 2500lbs. So 2500lbs is a realistic weight.
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Yeah, the weight written on the registration for my 1991 is 2288lbs. Last time I weighed my car with fuel, me and my toolbox in it, it was 2500lbs. So 2500lbs is a realistic weight.
never seen a written weight for my car, guess i better stop it off on the scales..
my mk2 GTI did weigh 2200# with me, full fuel, and 200# of stereo in the trunk..
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Right on. Like I said earlier, I was interested if you noticed a big difference in the two cars. :)
I like the suspension on the MK2 better than the MK1 also.
Your car is looking sweet. Can't wait to see it with the 92s on it.
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(http://i702.photobucket.com/albums/ww28/Dubsmoke/P1000526.jpg)
SUPER DUPER dirty, but you get the idea!
its really not that noticeable. the slight loss in power was greatly made up by the increased suspension capabilities..
i have ZERO REGRETS about swapping the engine from my rabbit to the Jetta.. this car is so nice to drive, that its going to be one of those cars you can fall asleep driving.. the rabbit WAS NOT.
rabbit = 244k miles, odo slips, so who knows how accurate it is
jetta = 84k orig miles.. odo works, so i know its accurate..
that was the deciding factor..
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Well that didn't take long. lol
Love those wheels. 8)
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Well that didn't take long. lol
Love those wheels. 8)
thanks for the comments ;)
(i had posted pics in the "User's Rides" section, so just stole them from there)
i really WAS NOT a fan of the 92s when i got them, but they were on a WHITE car.. then i put them on my gray car, and they looked better, and grew on me..
then i slapped them on my Jetta, and it was just one of those "these wheels were made to be on this car" moments..
when i bought this car, it had 17" 8 spoke Focal wheels on it, and it looked GOOD, but i actually like it better with 14s under it, rather than 17s.. much cheaper/easier to get rubber for the enkeis..
and hell, after i straightened out the enkeis, they drove perfect..
and, FWIW, these ARE real enkeis, and they are the old ones ;)
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(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v137/BalzOnYer4Head/HR_105-082-00_kiwi-leather-dye-black.jpg)
;D
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6'2" and i drive an 84 with 91 height adjustable seats. its perfect.
I feel that the mk3 is the best handling I felt. Front and rear swaybar on a TDI.
6'2" and i drive an 84 with 91 height adjustable seats. its perfect.
I feel that the mk3 is the best handling I felt. Front and rear swaybar on a TDI.
my car has better suspension than a mk3, and is a lighter car..
mk2 and mk3 have almost IDENTICAL suspension.
Well I can safely say that the best combination is a Mk2 with Mk3 control arms and rear beam from a mk3 Jetta with built in sway bar, no front sway bar. What a blast.
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(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v137/BalzOnYer4Head/HR_105-082-00_kiwi-leather-dye-black.jpg)
;D
leather dye works great! ON LEATHER
(http://www.osh.com/_static/webUpload/730/32_6818843_3.jpg)
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I did mine last April. With LEATHER DYE and it is still black, and when clean, shiny. Its cheap, super easy to use, and if ya get too vigorous scrubbing off a *&@&@#%ing love bug, right after I do the wheels, just a little touch up dab and she is golden. No big production with tape and masking and overspray so on.
Mind you, I live in Central Florida, super hot, super humid. As you can see from this video two weeks ago, it holds up.
http://youtu.be/1BhL-GEjNbY
Different strokes for diff folks.
I honestly dont care what he uses, I cant wait to see that ride with gleamin trim work.
I do lust your car as well though, nice work meng. Most would see it blasphemous to dismantle such a pristine GTI and slap a TDI in it, but I applaud it.
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I did mine last April. With LEATHER DYE and it is still black, and when clean, shiny. Its cheap, super easy to use, and if ya get too vigorous scrubbing off a *&@&@#%ing love bug, right after I do the wheels, just a little touch up dab and she is golden. No big production with tape and masking and overspray so on.
Mind you, I live in Central Florida, super hot, super humid. As you can see from this video two weeks ago, it holds up.
http://youtu.be/1BhL-GEjNbY
Different strokes for diff folks.
I honestly dont care what he uses, I cant wait to see that ride with gleamin trim work.
I do lust your car as well though, nice work meng. Most would see it blasphemous to dismantle such a pristine GTI and slap a TDI in it, but I applaud it.
i call his car "the best car VW never built"..
came up with that as soon as i picked my jaw up off the floor, after seeing it the first time..
out of all the cars on the forum, your GTDI is tied with RedRotors Golf Country, as my favorite cars.. i really love your ride dude.
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I did mine last April. With LEATHER DYE and it is still black, and when clean, shiny. Its cheap, super easy to use, and if ya get too vigorous scrubbing off a *&@&@#%ing love bug, right after I do the wheels, just a little touch up dab and she is golden. No big production with tape and masking and overspray so on.
Mind you, I live in Central Florida, super hot, super humid. As you can see from this video two weeks ago, it holds up.
http://youtu.be/1BhL-GEjNbY
Different strokes for diff folks.
I honestly dont care what he uses, I cant wait to see that ride with gleamin trim work.
I do lust your car as well though, nice work meng. Most would see it blasphemous to dismantle such a pristine GTI and slap a TDI in it, but I applaud it.
I did mine last April. With LEATHER DYE and it is still black, and when clean, shiny. Its cheap, super easy to use, and if ya get too vigorous scrubbing off a *&@&@#%ing love bug, right after I do the wheels, just a little touch up dab and she is golden. No big production with tape and masking and overspray so on.
Mind you, I live in Central Florida, super hot, super humid. As you can see from this video two weeks ago, it holds up.
http://youtu.be/1BhL-GEjNbY
Different strokes for diff folks.
I honestly dont care what he uses, I cant wait to see that ride with gleamin trim work.
I do lust your car as well though, nice work meng. Most would see it blasphemous to dismantle such a pristine GTI and slap a TDI in it, but I applaud it.
I had done the leather dye trick before but didn't have the best results so when I came upon this bumper/trim spray it was a revelation...Then I came across a thread about restoring black trim with a heat gun...That might just be the easiest technique, just not sure how well it will work after painting the parts...
Thank you for the applause for my GTDI, it was far from pristine when I began!
i call his car "the best car VW never built"..
came up with that as soon as i picked my jaw up off the floor, after seeing it the first time..
out of all the cars on the forum, your GTDI is tied with RedRotors Golf Country, as my favorite cars.. i really love your ride dude.
Thank you! Every time I drive it I get giddy as hell, It is so much fun! That is the beauty of swapping in a suitable engine, one that doesn't depart from the original too much, unlike the ubiquitous VR6 swaps out there
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yep.. your car still maintains its original (AWESOME) handling characteristics with a TDI under the hood. they cant be more than about 20-30 pounds different from the original 8v engine..
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yep.. your car still maintains its original (AWESOME) handling characteristics with a TDI under the hood. they cant be more than about 20-30 pounds different from the original 8v engine..
Exactly, the IP, 02A transaxle and turbo/intercooler and piping would add the most significant amount.